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Raf1 · 11-30-2003, 05:41 PM

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iwantchixx · 11-30-2003, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by iwantchixx

On a similar note, how relevant are these pages going to be? are they optimized for the keywords webmasters will be targeting? remember, you don't need 500k random links to generate super high PR, just ONE well optimized page or a handfull of decently optimized ones

i must correct myself on that...

you don't need 500k random links to generate super high relevance (which is mroe important than PR, just ONE well optimized page or a handfull of decently optimized ones

Rivux · 11-30-2003, 06:06 PM

Links for 1 month are fairly useless since Google implemented their link and follow policy. You need links for consecutive months to start seeing any benefit and even then as soon as google crawls the page again and does not find the link, all PR that was gained will be lost. I would suggest selling links for 3 to 6 month blocks and raise the price accordingly.

Rorschach · 11-30-2003, 06:19 PM

Hellooooo SearchKing.

Choker · 11-30-2003, 06:25 PM

I take no offense from anyone posting their opinions and expierences. In fact I welcome it, all this PR and SE stuff is totally new to me. However, after reading many posts and visiting many sites, there are lots of good advice out there, but every "expert" is wrong on at least one thing he says.

IE
All my sites are on the same block, this does not penalize a sites PR.

Rivux your post I have found to be totally incorrect. Not just once or even twice, but 20 times or more I have made a new TGP, linked to it from all my other tgps, and within the next google update that new site is a PR4.

And, I am convinced that google crawls htaccess files. I do not link to my 404 page anywhere except in every htaccess file I have. I have a lot of them. How else could this page be a PR8? OR it is picking up the PR8 from chokinchicken main page? chokinchicken main page does not link to it, so how could google even find it?

Now, what I can't figure out, is how come sites like the hun do not have higher PR? They have hundreds of thousands of galleries linking back to them.

WiredGuy · 11-30-2003, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by Rorschach
Hellooooo SearchKing.

Exactly what I was thinking, if your gonna think about starting a brokerage service, read up on the lawsuit of SearchKing vs Google. Selling your own links should be no problem, but it was quite clear Google doesn't like the idea of brokering this service...

WG

Choker · 11-30-2003, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy

Exactly what I was thinking, if your gonna think about starting a brokerage service, read up on the lawsuit of SearchKing vs Google. Selling your own links should be no problem, but it was quite clear Google doesn't like the idea of brokering this service...

WG

Really? I found tons of sites already doing this

KCat · 11-30-2003, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
Now, what I can't figure out, is how come sites like the hun do not have higher PR? They have hundreds of thousands of galleries linking back to them.

When people build galleries, they'll mirror it 30+ times to accomodate different recip links. Google penalizes domains with mirrored pages so all of those recip links are from domains banned by Google.

Choker · 11-30-2003, 07:31 PM

Problem solved. This program is now dead. No more. I do not sell links on sites based on their PR.

My newest program I am selling hard linked spots on my sites.
http://www.betterbeup.com/admin/stats.php

All spots are sold out though.

Choker · 11-30-2003, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by KCat

When people build galleries, they'll mirror it 30+ times to accomodate different recip links. Google penalizes domains with mirrored pages so all of those recip links are from domains banned by Google.

But what constitutes a mirrored page like this? The same page EXCEPT 4 different links (recips) on it? So a gallery has IE 15 links the same and 4 different. So there must be a set ratio for a page to be considered mirrored.

WiredGuy · 11-30-2003, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
Really? I found tons of sites already doing this

Brokerage firms or individual sites selling PR?
Mind posting links to a few?

WG

czarkazm · 11-30-2003, 07:43 PM

blackmail, oh beautiful blackmail

Choker · 11-30-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy

Brokerage firms or individual sites selling PR?
Mind posting links to a few?

WG

There's one in this thread, I got about 12 of them from icqs since posting this thread. Seems there are several adult webmasters already doing this. Obviously I am not going to post their links here. From reading up on the searchkings matter, it apears this was more of a matter of misrepresenting. Making a claim that you can improve someones PR is a iffy thing. But someone selling spots on their site claiming all the linkbacks will help a site get better SE results? Well this is true, isn't it? If one were to go by what appears to be googles stand on this, they don't even like you saying that and will penalize you for it. This is a very grey area.

In any case this does not concern me. I am simply doing what I do, I am selling traffic.

DarkJedi · 12-01-2003, 10:09 AM

prolly was a bad idea posting it on GFY.

there are always some assholes who will report this to google.

Choker · 12-01-2003, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
prolly was a bad idea posting it on GFY.

there are always some assholes who will report this to google.

Of course someone will, but in this case there is nothing to report. The only mention of PR from me was when I stated that many guys with high PR sites want me to broker spots from them. Which I will not do. I am simply selling text links on my sites. If my sites have high PRs, then how can I stop this from making this attractive to potential buyers? I can't. I do not spam google or any search engine. I do not build my sites to get better SE ratings. Google is fair to me, they give me high ratings because my sites are very relevant. They are some of the most visited sites on the web. I did not design a single site with the intenion of manipulating PR or rankings in any way. Google has enough to worry about with all the SEO guys. These are the guys that are directly making money from manipulating the SE,s. Not me. Whether I think they have the right to do this or not is irrelevant. Google seems to think they do not have this right.

revbuddylove · 12-01-2003, 11:25 AM

Would you guys that bought spots please report back here and let us know how productive they are? I am interested, but I am too chicken to be the first guy to try it out...

11-30-2003, 06:06 PM	#53
Rivux Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,026	Links for 1 month are fairly useless since Google implemented their link and follow policy. You need links for consecutive months to start seeing any benefit and even then as soon as google crawls the page again and does not find the link, all PR that was gained will be lost. I would suggest selling links for 3 to 6 month blocks and raise the price accordingly. __________________ TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic

11-30-2003, 06:25 PM	#55
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	I take no offense from anyone posting their opinions and expierences. In fact I welcome it, all this PR and SE stuff is totally new to me. However, after reading many posts and visiting many sites, there are lots of good advice out there, but every "expert" is wrong on at least one thing he says. IE All my sites are on the same block, this does not penalize a sites PR. Rivux your post I have found to be totally incorrect. Not just once or even twice, but 20 times or more I have made a new TGP, linked to it from all my other tgps, and within the next google update that new site is a PR4. And, I am convinced that google crawls htaccess files. I do not link to my 404 page anywhere except in every htaccess file I have. I have a lot of them. How else could this page be a PR8? OR it is picking up the PR8 from chokinchicken main page? chokinchicken main page does not link to it, so how could google even find it? Now, what I can't figure out, is how come sites like the hun do not have higher PR? They have hundreds of thousands of galleries linking back to them. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

11-30-2003, 07:31 PM	#59
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Problem solved. This program is now dead. No more. I do not sell links on sites based on their PR. My newest program I am selling hard linked spots on my sites. http://www.betterbeup.com/admin/stats.php All spots are sold out though. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

12-01-2003, 11:25 AM	#66
revbuddylove Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: In the hizouse... Posts: 402	Would you guys that bought spots please report back here and let us know how productive they are? I am interested, but I am too chicken to be the first guy to try it out... __________________ -Rev. Buddy Love Code Monkey at Adult.com

11-30-2003, 05:41 PM	#51
Raf1 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Writer for hire :) Gallery descriptions, articles, blog posts etc. ICQ: 209 356 106 Posts: 12,117	50 programs

11-30-2003, 06:19 PM	#54
Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	Hellooooo SearchKing.

11-30-2003, 07:43 PM	#62
czarkazm Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 225	blackmail, oh beautiful blackmail

12-01-2003, 10:09 AM	#64
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	prolly was a bad idea posting it on GFY. there are always some assholes who will report this to google.