Maybe if you concentrate on building killer retentions and conversions...THEN opening an affiliate program to select guys who each specialize in particular traffic, this may work. The guys give you feedback re optimization. You optimize and build up conversions and installed membership base. From here, you can then ramp up to full open affiliate system.

At the point that webmasters are forced to promote 9.95 trials for 25.00 a signup...

this board will be closed..

Even the sig whores will be gone..

Lol. :feels-hot

Cum-drinker!!

Oh damn, this would mean... people would have to INNOVATE? Oh damn, heaven forfend please let things stay the same for another thousand years.

LOL. Dude, change is what this biz is all about. :thumbsup

Right now alot of people are still paying out 35 and 40 dollars a signup, so the $10 pay scheme won't work that well, but given the problems I am seeing as an affiliate program, this won't be the case down the line, then people will be jumping to get your 10 dollars signup in a year or two.

Why do you have the mind set that programs are always out to rip you off?

Think positive, perhaps some do rip you off. But Platinum Bucks and Discount Pass Bucks we actual are in strong competition to make you the MOST of any programs out there so we can get your traffic.

Discount pass bucks is not even a proven money maker, right now we are concentrating on Charge back ratios so we are solidified under FOREVER.

Discount Pass Bucks makes you more money plain and simple, no bullshiting

Its probably an unpopular thing to say but the revshare third party admin 50-60% split is the only thing I would promote, no pps for me whether its $10 or $50.

It just screams out at my intelligence. I'd rather take my chances with a site I love (and a third party I trust to admin it like ccbill) and earn huge rewards when I hit the jackpot with a site that really does convert well and retain a hefty percentage of members for 3+ months.

With revshare, I've got some members that stay on a year or more. PPS can never touch that.

With pps, somebody is always getting screwed. Most likely the webmaster getting shaved like hell. On the other hand if the site really does retain for 6 months then $30 is jackshit, and if its a crap program and the sponser doesn't shave they would go bankrupt within 15 days.

$9,95 trials CONVERT better at $25 payout then $5 trial that converts to $40.

Surfers arent stupid they see $40 monthly

and they see only $10 a month

$25 payout for Discount Pass Bucks MAKES YOU MORE then $5 trial that converts to $40 a month

Surfers want DISCOUNTS NOW they are smartening up

Some Recurring programs are good to advertise. They have TONS of content and update daily.

But what if your site you LOVE converts to monthly like shit? Or they dont update regularly like you HAVE TO and the member stays 1 month and thats it.

Then your partnership program makes you $10-20 a signup only

Recurring programs SOME, not ALL are the easy way into this business because they have NOTHING to lose they only PAY you money if you make them money.

I think we all understand this but not all change is good for all people.

EB is maling huge bank on her stuff and I doubt she would have to lower payouts any time soon.

Discount Pass Bucks pays $25 a signup

And we convert 1:100 program wide.

Just try it out, you have nothing to lose I wouldnt sit here and lie to you.

Cocksmoker... :(

I Concur. :mad:

A Drunk Man Staggers Into A Catholic Church, Enters A Confessional Box And Sits Down But Says Nothing.<br>The Priest Politely Coughs A Few Time To Try And Get His Attention, But The Drunk Man Just Sits There. Finally The Priest Pounds Three Times On The Wall.<br>The Drunk Replies, "Ain't No Use Knockin', There's No Paper On This Side Either." :thumbsup

$25 A SIGNUP

NOT $10 A SIGNUP

$10 TO THE SURFERS

Hmmmm the idea may seem ludicrous now... but I try not to get addicted to current levels of payouts because they are tied to business models that are VERY vulnerable to 1) FTC regulation 2) Credit card regulations 3) browser technology. Any changes of the 3 = changes in payouts.

Dave,

My point is that your $25.00 payout when you are taking in 10.00 initially is ridiculous

The only reason this program exists is because there is less chargebacks/ less risk, which benefit the program owner, this was not done to benefit surfers..I dont believe anyone here is even that naive..so payout should be much higher..

When the market adjusts to this pricing structure, there will be people paying a lot more..

Believe me $5submissions, I know this biz is all about change..but now it is no longer about change, but extinction..

2 dinosaurs have bitten the dust..and from what I hear..Visa is after quite a few more goliaths..

I am quite surprised you feel charging the surfer $10 a month that a program owner could payout higher then $25

I wont know if $25 is to high a payout until we see how the recurring does at only $10 a month

This program is converting 1:110 program wide, its converting DOUBLE what a $35 payout program is converting.

Hence $25 payout for Discount sites will make you more money

i sale 9dollarporn.com :winkwink:

Thanks for the feedback so far, keep em comin'?