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  • - AFN -
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    • Jun 2003
    • 3101

    #1

    Would you promote a $10 Pay Per Sign up program?

    Assuming the prog converts the same ratios as other PPS programs, what kind of sponsor features should it have to have for you to promote it?
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  • triumph
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    • Dec 2002
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    #2
    one time pay of $10? NO WAY! I HAVE NO MORE TO SAY.

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    • Nezster
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      • Feb 2003
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      #3
      the conversions would have to be WAY better in order for someone to promote such program.. maybe 3 times better

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      • GeXus
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        • May 2003
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        #4
        $10 per signup? lol.. if the sponsor doesnt know how to upsell, i would not promote.. id rather send my surfers to someone who knows how to make money with them

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        • - AFN -
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          • Jun 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by Nezster
          the conversions would have to be WAY better in order for someone to promote such program.. maybe 3 times better
          Let's just say for the sake of argument that the convo rate is 1:500.

          Here are the features:

          Sponsor hosted galleries
          Mailer support
          Tons of free content

          NO POPUPS
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          • GeXus
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            • May 2003
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            #6
            Originally posted by - AFN -


            Let's just say for the sake of argument that the convo rate is 1:500.

            Here are the features:

            Sponsor hosted galleries
            Mailer support
            Tons of free content

            NO POPUPS
            Dude that makes no fucking sense.. 1:500 at 10$ would meen using a "normal" sponsor, getting paid 30$, you would be converting 1:1500, you can convert way better then that with other sponsors

            convert 1:100 and MAYBE.. but you WONT convert the same for everyone

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            • CDSmith
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              • May 2001
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              #7
              $10 payouts? I make twice that on the 10dollarcash console-free program.

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              • - AFN -
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                • Jun 2003
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                #8
                That is why this is a hypothetical.

                Wouldn't people try out a PPS program just on the mere fact that it provides diversity?

                Plus the incentive to shave is lower at $10 than $35 or whatever the average rate is?


                Originally posted by GeXus


                Dude that makes no fucking sense.. 1:500 at 10$ would meen using a "normal" sponsor, getting paid 30$, you would be converting 1:1500, you can convert way better then that with other sponsors

                convert 1:100 and MAYBE.. but you WONT convert the same for everyone
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                • Arousal Design
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                  • Jun 2002
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                  #9
                  No one would promote $10 per signups. Unless it was for free no console or full webmaster console trials, then possibly. Even then, it'd be tough.

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                  • Ic3m4nZ
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                    • Aug 2003
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                    #10
                    No No & No

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                    • $5 submissions
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                      #11
                      It has to be definitely no console, no exits, no pops, no BS. Plus the sponsor would have to have a rep of no shaving. Even a hint or rumor of shaving.... the program would be toast.

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                      • swedguy
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                        • Jan 2002
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                        #12
                        If they have the same sites as a regular $30 PPS sponsor and the same conversion, I would not promote them.

                        If they have some very special sites that I can't find elsewhere, I would consider promoting them. But they better convert like a mofo. Otherwise it's not really worth wasting time on them.

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                        • Brad-Wishing
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                          #13
                          I don't think it would be too popular by any means.
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                          • - AFN -
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Brad-Wishing
                            I don't think it would be too popular by any means.
                            But wouldn't it be more popular than a REVSHARE model?
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                            • Platinum Dave
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                              #15
                              Discount Pass Bucks

                              CONVERTS 2 X better then any other program.

                              $25 X 2 = $50 a signup

                              I got the numbers to prove it


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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Platinum Dave
                                Discount Pass Bucks

                                CONVERTS 2 X better then any other program.

                                $25 X 2 = $50 a signup

                                I got the numbers to prove it
                                Is that from TGP or exit traffic or 404s?

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                                • CDSmith
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                                  • May 2001
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CDSmith
                                  $10 payouts? I make twice that on the 10dollarcash console-free program.
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                                  • shermo

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by - AFN -


                                    But wouldn't it be more popular than a REVSHARE model?
                                    Why would it be? Most of the revshare companies I promote retain like crazy, and pay out more initially. Why take 1 payment of $10 when I can get an average 3 month retention at $12-$15.99 a month?

                                    The numbers just don't add up.

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                                    • Basic_man
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                                      • Oct 2003
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                                      #19
                                      10$, are you a little african bitch who is under-pay?
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                                      • - AFN -
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Basic_man
                                        10$, are you a little african bitch who is under-pay?
                                        Please, no need to be racist. I was just asking a question.
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                                        • Platinum Dave
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by $5 submissions


                                          Is that from TGP or exit traffic or 404s?
                                          Its from Overall traffic of programs

                                          Other Programs compared to Discount Pass Bucks

                                          Its not one type of traffic its, overall in general, program wide


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                                          • Platinum Dave
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                                            • Mar 2001
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by shermsshack


                                            Why would it be? Most of the revshare companies I promote retain like crazy, and pay out more initially. Why take 1 payment of $10 when I can get an average 3 month retention at $12-$15.99 a month?

                                            The numbers just don't add up.
                                            Discount Pass Bucks pays $25 a signup, not $10 a signup

                                            Platinum Bucks pays $35

                                            You'll make more money advertising a per trial program then partnership.

                                            I never advertise recurring programs, I send 1000's of signups a month


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                                            • mahoney
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                                              • Nov 2003
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                                              #23
                                              If it was for free chat (i.e) http://www.sexxxychat.com and you were getting $10.00 for every free signup you generate then yes. If it is a full blown paysite then no. Why make $10 when you can make $40.00 ?
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                                              • EscortBiz
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                                                #24
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                                                • Space Puppy
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                                                  • Nov 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  Wait till Visa start their hacking of the Industry come January i bet a LOT of the sponsors who are going to be losing their Processors look at the lower signup model a lot quicker than many of you think ;)

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                                                  • Space Puppy
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                    i will bumo this thread in 6 months
                                                    Me too

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                                                    • Matt_WildCash
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                                                      • Jan 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                      It has to be definitely no console, no exits, no pops, no BS. Plus the sponsor would have to have a rep of no shaving. Even a hint or rumor of shaving.... the program would be toast.
                                                      The program would be toast from the start with an idea like that one

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                                                      • Brad-Wishing
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                                                        • Oct 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        Here is how I see it working.

                                                        - Ratio is 3x better than anyone else
                                                        - Can keep up with 10dollarcash, and discountpassbucks
                                                        - Program owner can cross sell to make that cash back without spamming the hell out of the user
                                                        - Quality sites, support and content.

                                                        Then YES it would work. If it was laid out stellar I forsee many promoting it.
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                                                        • hentaivip
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                                                          • Oct 2003
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                                                          #29
                                                          $10 per signup ? one time ? No way ...

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                                                          • sumphatpimp
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                                                            #30
                                                            the only way you can get me to promote this program at $10.00 per sign up is the following

                                                            the program converts at 1:30 or better and can prove it
                                                            as the webmaster who sold to this surfer I get to upsell to him and whatever I want
                                                            I get a piece of all rebills for this surfer

                                                            so you see the program owner is going to get screwed or he has one hell of a lot of work to do

                                                            don't want to break your balls man, just trying to be honest.
                                                            everyone is in biz to make money, this ain't no game.

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                                                            • inthestars
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                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                              • 2021

                                                              #31
                                                              If the site had very unique content (and DID NOT SHAVE!(, I would promote it. Right now, I'm looking for a sponsor that has reality tranny content.

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                                                              • Brad-Wishing
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by inthestars
                                                                If the site had very unique content (and DID NOT SHAVE!(, I would promote it. Right now, I'm looking for a sponsor that has reality tranny content.
                                                                I think there is one... www.trannytrick.com

                                                                I could be mistaken though. I'm not into that niche personally.
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                                                                • rabbit
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  i'd have to convert 1:80 to make it worthwile...

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                                    i will bumo this thread in 6 months
                                                                    Heheheh If I read your mind correctly, you are a fucking Genius!

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Space Puppy
                                                                      Wait till Visa start their hacking of the Industry come January i bet a LOT of the sponsors who are going to be losing their Processors look at the lower signup model a lot quicker than many of you think ;)
                                                                      DING DING DING! although its obvious it will feel like reading fuckedcompany.com's industry dead pool (circa 1999) when the shit hits the fan.

                                                                      Now, if I read EscortBiz' mind correctly, someone who is working on the next biz model for this biz might spill the beans in this thread.

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                                                                      • bigdog
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                                                                        • Jul 2001
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Platinum Dave


                                                                        Discount Pass Bucks pays $25 a signup, not $10 a signup

                                                                        Platinum Bucks pays $35

                                                                        You'll make more money advertising a per trial program then partnership.

                                                                        I never advertise recurring programs, I send 1000's of signups a month

                                                                        Very true statements Dave.Also with the way credit card processing is these days i would not touch any partnership programs at all

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                                                                        • chodadog
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Think of the awesome marketing campaign.

                                                                          <font size=+4><b>WE PAY THE LOWEST RATE PER SIGNUP IN THE INDUSTRY!</b></font>

                                                                          That's going to be a winner.
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                                                                          • Paparazzi
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by shermsshack


                                                                            Why would it be? Most of the revshare companies I promote retain like crazy, and pay out more initially. Why take 1 payment of $10 when I can get an average 3 month retention at $12-$15.99 a month?

                                                                            The numbers just don't add up.
                                                                            fuck pps

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                                                                            • Matt_WildCash
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              The simple hard facts are, advertising a $10 per signup (no recurring) program wasn't a good ideas last month and now your idea has some hard competition selling $10 memberships converting just the same ratio's as your promising with the $10 prices and they are paying $25 150% more than your offering.

                                                                              Its all about the affilates & how much money you can make them, concentrate on this first.

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                                                                              • brizzad
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by triumph
                                                                                one time pay of $10? NO WAY! I HAVE NO MORE TO SAY.
                                                                                one time pay? no way? you have no more to say?

                                                                                why dont we go lay by the bay, make things outta clay, whatta ya say? i just may!

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Maybe if you concentrate on building killer retentions and conversions...THEN opening an affiliate program to select guys who each specialize in particular traffic, this may work. The guys give you feedback re optimization. You optimize and build up conversions and installed membership base. From here, you can then ramp up to full open affiliate system.

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                                                                                  • makefuckingmoney
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    At the point that webmasters are forced to promote 9.95 trials for 25.00 a signup...

                                                                                    this board will be closed..

                                                                                    Even the sig whores will be gone..

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                                                                                    • Tobcisab
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Lol.

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                                                                                      • Tobcisab
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Cum-drinker!!

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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                                                          At the point that webmasters are forced to promote 9.95 trials for 25.00 a signup...

                                                                                          this board will be closed..

                                                                                          Even the sig whores will be gone..
                                                                                          Oh damn, this would mean... people would have to INNOVATE? Oh damn, heaven forfend please let things stay the same for another thousand years.

                                                                                          LOL. Dude, change is what this biz is all about.

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                                                                                          • NiteRain
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Right now alot of people are still paying out 35 and 40 dollars a signup, so the $10 pay scheme won't work that well, but given the problems I am seeing as an affiliate program, this won't be the case down the line, then people will be jumping to get your 10 dollars signup in a year or two.
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                                                                                            • Platinum Dave
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Driven
                                                                                              The simple hard facts are, advertising a $10 per signup (no recurring) program wasn't a good ideas last month and now your idea has some hard competition selling $10 memberships converting just the same ratio's as your promising with the $10 prices and they are paying $25 150% more than your offering.

                                                                                              Its all about the affilates & how much money you can make them, concentrate on this first.
                                                                                              Why do you have the mind set that programs are always out to rip you off?

                                                                                              Think positive, perhaps some do rip you off. But Platinum Bucks and Discount Pass Bucks we actual are in strong competition to make you the MOST of any programs out there so we can get your traffic.

                                                                                              Discount pass bucks is not even a proven money maker, right now we are concentrating on Charge back ratios so we are solidified under FOREVER.

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                                                                                              • TheSaint
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Its probably an unpopular thing to say but the revshare third party admin 50-60% split is the only thing I would promote, no pps for me whether its $10 or $50.

                                                                                                It just screams out at my intelligence. I'd rather take my chances with a site I love (and a third party I trust to admin it like ccbill) and earn huge rewards when I hit the jackpot with a site that really does convert well and retain a hefty percentage of members for 3+ months.

                                                                                                With revshare, I've got some members that stay on a year or more. PPS can never touch that.

                                                                                                With pps, somebody is always getting screwed. Most likely the webmaster getting shaved like hell. On the other hand if the site really does retain for 6 months then $30 is jackshit, and if its a crap program and the sponser doesn't shave they would go bankrupt within 15 days.
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                                                                                                • Platinum Dave
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                  At the point that webmasters are forced to promote 9.95 trials for 25.00 a signup...

                                                                                                  this board will be closed..

                                                                                                  Even the sig whores will be gone..
                                                                                                  $9,95 trials CONVERT better at $25 payout then $5 trial that converts to $40.

                                                                                                  Surfers arent stupid they see $40 monthly

                                                                                                  and they see only $10 a month

                                                                                                  $25 payout for Discount Pass Bucks MAKES YOU MORE then $5 trial that converts to $40 a month

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                                                                                                  • Platinum Dave
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by TheSaint
                                                                                                    Its probably an unpopular thing to say but the revshare third party admin 50-60% split is the only thing I would promote, no pps for me whether its $10 or $50.

                                                                                                    It just screams out at my intelligence. I'd rather take my chances with a site I love (and a third party I trust to admin it like ccbill) and earn huge rewards when I hit the jackpot with a site that really does convert well and retain a hefty percentage of members for 3+ months.

                                                                                                    With revshare, I've got some members that stay on a year or more. PPS can never touch that.

                                                                                                    With pps, somebody is always getting screwed. Most likely the webmaster getting shaved like hell. On the other hand if the site really does retain for 6 months then $30 is jackshit, and if its a crap program and the sponser doesn't shave they would go bankrupt within 15 days.
                                                                                                    Some Recurring programs are good to advertise. They have TONS of content and update daily.

                                                                                                    But what if your site you LOVE converts to monthly like shit? Or they dont update regularly like you HAVE TO and the member stays 1 month and thats it.

                                                                                                    Then your partnership program makes you $10-20 a signup only

                                                                                                    Recurring programs SOME, not ALL are the easy way into this business because they have NOTHING to lose they only PAY you money if you make them money.


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