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Mr.Fiction 11-27-2003 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female


Actually I think you are the most obsessive anti-Bush person I have witnessed in a long time, other than Al Franken :1orglaugh I've never seen a Canadian with so much hatred for a US President, as I have seen in you. You are opinionated yes, but you are also very hostile. It's disturbing... almost as if you believe Bush is only out to make YOUR life hell.

Apparently you haven't turned on your TV in a few years? :1orglaugh

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female


Actually I think you are the most obsessive anti-Bush person I have witnessed in a long time, other than Al Franken :1orglaugh I've never seen a Canadian with so much hatred for a US President, as I have seen in you. You are opinionated yes, but you are also very hostile. It's disturbing... almost as if you believe Bush is only out to make YOUR life hell.

How's that? There have been DOZENS of anti-bush threads in the last week (including one that went pages and pages (I don't think I even posted there once), and I post in ONE thread out of those dozens, and I'm obsessed? Puuuhlease. I may have strong opinions, but the only ones that are obsessed are the ones so desperate to find someone to crucify, apparently.

So please, show me proof of this obsession. I don't even hate BUSH. I hate to see what's happening to what I always thought was a fantastic country, and see what's happening to many wonderful friends I have there who are directly affected by what even THEY say is the result of his leadership. Since when does that constitute obsession? Having an opinion? If that's the case, my dear, you need to see a shrink, because you make YOUR opinions pretty clear EVERYWHERE.

Furious_Female 11-27-2003 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Apparently you haven't turned on your TV in a few years? :1orglaugh

No I haven't seen anyone on TV wish Bush dead

CDSmith 11-27-2003 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
I will apologize if anyone was offended..
There, that wasn't so hard.

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
But I will NOT apologize for feeling and thinking what I feel and think.
I never suggested you do that, nor would I. You know me, big proponent of free speech and all that.

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
I'll remember not to share it next time. I'm not the only one who went a little far to make a point, however, and as I'm sure you can imagine, DO feel I have a right to speak up, thank you muchly :P
"But officer, everyone else in the riot was busting windows and looting TV's, how come you're arresting ME??"



You know I love you. :winkwink:

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female


No I haven't seen anyone on TV wish Bush dead

I apologize for offending people with my statement that wasn't serious. I was making an off-handed point. But my fucking god how long does the horse have to be dead before you guys get a clue?

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
"But officer, everyone else in the riot was busting windows and looting TV's, how come you're arresting ME??"



You know I love you. :winkwink:

Yeah, and you also know this is bullshit, Cd.

Carlito 11-27-2003 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by sherie
This has to be one of the funniest things that I have read thus far. What makes your opinion more logical then anyone else's?? As for common sense, I have yet to see it prevail in this post. The majority of the entire world?? Puhleeeze. Turn off CNN and do some real research...

Proof once again that common sense and logic are not qualities that we are born with.

I don`t own a TV.
I don't read news articles on the internet, unless they are pasted to me.
The majority of my opinions are from real world experience and observation of other people's arrogance & banality.

Now you will say i`m uneducated - so whatever, I can't win against people like you. I can agree with you or state the opposite and you will then attack me for exactly the opposite of what you started with.

theking 11-27-2003 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female


Actually I think you are the most obsessive anti-Bush person I have witnessed in a long time, other than Al Franken :1orglaugh I've never seen a Canadian with so much hatred for a US President, as I have seen in you. You are opinionated yes, but you are also very hostile. It's disturbing... almost as if you believe Bush is only out to make YOUR life hell.

:thumbsup

But I do have to disagree with you about her being the "most obsessive" as there are a few others that are in the "competition" in my opinion...but I will agree that she is the "most obsessive" female. BTW...I think that "hostile" is an understatement and think "vehemently hostile" is applicable.

CDSmith 11-27-2003 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by theking
But I do have to disagree with you about her being the "most obsessive" as there are a few others that are in the "competition" in my opinion...but I will agree that she is the "most obsessive" female. BTW...I think that "hostile" is an understatement and think "vehemently hostile" is applicable.
Struth. A certain aussie that hasn't posted under his usual nick lately comes to mind.

Carlito 11-27-2003 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by theking


:thumbsup

But I do have to disagree with you about her being the "most obsessive" as there are a few others that are in the "competition" in my opinion...but I will agree that she is the "most obsessive" female. BTW...I think that "hostile" is an understatement and think "vehemently hostile" is applicable.

Yeah, I think Furious_Females`s Idenntity applies more to Lady Mischief.

Furious_Female should become 'Informed_Female"
And lady mischief should become "Furious_Lady"

ColBigBalls 11-27-2003 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by theking
It would be a good thing if Americans that have been doing business with LadyMischief would cease and desist and for those that were considering doing business with LadyMischief to reconsider.
how dose ones political opinon effect work ethics?
busness is busness and a personal opinion is just that. If someone is doen a good job so be it. i could care less about there personal views as long as they do what they are paid for:2 cents:

Furious_Female 11-27-2003 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


How's that? There have been DOZENS of anti-bush threads in the last week (including one that went pages and pages (I don't think I even posted there once), and I post in ONE thread out of those dozens, and I'm obsessed? Puuuhlease. I may have strong opinions, but the only ones that are obsessed are the ones so desperate to find someone to crucify, apparently.

So please, show me proof of this obsession. I don't even hate BUSH. I hate to see what's happening to what I always thought was a fantastic country, and see what's happening to many wonderful friends I have there who are directly affected by what even THEY say is the result of his leadership. Since when does that constitute obsession? Having an opinion? If that's the case, my dear, you need to see a shrink, because you make YOUR opinions pretty clear EVERYWHERE.

Your opinions are backed by a lot of emotion and not a lot of logic. You try very hard to express your opinions and it makes you seem much more committed to your anti-Bush views, than others. Therefore, it comes off as obsessive with all the emphasis you put on things, some of which have no bearing on you or your country.

When you post things about Bush, I imagine this frazzled woman jumping up and down, trying to get every bit of expression into the point she's trying to make LMAO I guess when I discuss politics, it doesn't raise my blood pressure and I can discuss things without stooping to wishing death upon people.

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by theking


:thumbsup

But I do have to disagree with you about her being the "most obsessive" as there are a few others that are in the "competition" in my opinion...but I will agree that she is the "most obsessive" female. BTW...I think that "hostile" is an understatement and think "vehemently hostile" is applicable.

Regardless of what you might think about my level of hostility, if I was in the US, would I not be FULLY ENTITLED TO HAVE A RIGHT TO THAT OPINION WITHOUT PERSECUTION under the US constitution? If I said "I HOPE Michael Jackson gets back what he did to children when he's in jail", would you be laughing with me? Or could I be burned at the stake for that too?

If thinking/feeling something is wrong (which it likely will be in the US, allsomeone has to do is say "terrorist") in the US, there is DEFINITELY something wrong with how people are reading the constitution. A lot of people hold VERY STRONG opinions in the states too, but I don't recall the last time it was legal OR acceptable to victimize them for that.

I have always read your posts and even agreed with you (although on the political scale we have disagreed many times, and likely always will). But I would NEVER EVER single you out with the intention of ruining business or attempting humiliation. THAT is just as over the top as you claim my statement was. I am human, what I said was something I said that I only half meant. I would NEVER truly wish harm on ANYONE. Your reason for starting this thread, however, was FULLY intended, and I am VERY offended, based on your reason alone.

Carlito 11-27-2003 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by ColBigBalls


how dose ones political opinon effect work ethics?
busness is busness and a personal opinion is just that. If someone is doen a good job so be it. i could care less about there personal views as long as they do what they are paid for:2 cents:

If this holds true, I think its rather funny that all of us are fighting for our opinion, rather than simply educating the uninformed - but even then, the uninformed develop an opinion, and our education stops.

CDSmith 11-27-2003 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Yeah, and you also know this is bullshit, Cd.
Well, you did point out several times that others had said similar things, yes? That was my weak attempt to lighten the mood here. I'll try harder, but the smell coming from my oven is driving me a bit batty at the moment. Can't think of anything except what I'm gonna do to that bird in about 2 hours from now.

Carlito 11-27-2003 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female


Your opinions are backed by a lot of emotion and not a lot of logic. You try very hard to express your opinions and it makes you seem much more committed to your anti-Bush views, than others. Therefore, it comes off as obsessive with all the emphasis you put on things, some of which have no bearing on you or your country.

When you post things about Bush, I imagine this frazzled woman jumping up and down, trying to get every bit of expression into the point she's trying to make LMAO I guess when I discuss politics, it doesn't raise my blood pressure and I can discuss things without stooping to wishing death upon people.

Definately intgelligent. I also envision the same thing.

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Well, you did point out several times that others had said similar things, yes? That was my weak attempt to lighten the mood here. I'll try harder, but the smell coming from my oven is driving me a bit batty at the moment. Can't think of anything except what I'm gonna do to that bird in about 2 hours from now.
I'm mad at you now. I'm craving turkey and it's not a turkey day here. My hubby hates turkey so I don't get it even then :(

CDSmith 11-27-2003 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by ColBigBalls
how dose ones political opinon effect work ethics?
busness is busness and a personal opinion is just that. If someone is doen a good job so be it. i could care less about there personal views as long as they do what they are paid for:2 cents:

That's right. Now, see that link down in my sig that says "Looking for content?"...... click it, and buy some. Jact content is da bomb.

ColBigBalls 11-27-2003 02:17 PM

oh yeah almost forgot.
http://pix.segfault.cz/gfy/popcorn.gif
:1orglaugh

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by theking


Feel free to do business with whoever you choose...and others have the same choice.

So what exactly was your intent on starting this thread then? Are you going to start one for every single person that makes a strong Anti-Bush statement? If you don't, you are a hypocrite.

theking 11-27-2003 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by ColBigBalls


how dose ones political opinon effect work ethics?
busness is busness and a personal opinion is just that. If someone is doen a good job so be it. i could care less about there personal views as long as they do what they are paid for:2 cents:

Feel free to do business with whoever you choose...and others have the same choice.

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
That's right. Now, see that link down in my sig that says "Looking for content?"...... click it, and buy some. Jact content is da bomb.
Feed me turkey, babe? :)

CDSmith 11-27-2003 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
I'm mad at you now. I'm craving turkey and it's not a turkey day here. My hubby hates turkey so I don't get it even then :(
No need to be mad at me luv..... I'm cooking a CHICKEN. Haha...... I had turkey for the real thanksgiving last month, I'm celebrating the US holiday a different way.


But it's gonna be damn good.

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
No need to be mad at me luv..... I'm cooking a CHICKEN. Haha...... I had turkey for the real thanksgiving last month, I'm celebrating the US holiday a different way.


But it's gonna be damn good.

I'm still mad! He hates chicken too!! :(

ColBigBalls 11-27-2003 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by theking


Feel free to do business with whoever you choose...and others have the same choice.

fair enough.. so why sugest to many not to do buisness with someone based on an opinion? Im just sayen everyone here can read.. let them decied whom to dobuisness with:2 cents:

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by ColBigBalls


fair enough.. so why sugest to many not to do buisness with someone based on an opinion? Im just sayen everyone here can read.. let them decied whom to do buisness with:2 cents:

Gallery Submit Service kicks some major ass in a big way :)

Carlito 11-27-2003 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


So what exactly was your intent on starting this thread then? Are you going to start one for every single person that makes a strong Anti-Bush statement? If you don't, you are a hypocrite.

This thread was started for me. People that are offended by your acts & claims.

CDSmith 11-27-2003 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
I'm still mad! He hates chicken too!! :(
Jact hates chicken and turkey? Why my heavens..... I may have to stop promoting him. :1orglaugh



Were you aware of this major flaw when you married him?

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Carlito


This thread was started for me. People that are offended by your acts & claims.

My acts and claims? I made one statement (which I have apologized for once in this thread), and that justifies this? I would really like to know how. How about if the shoe was on the other foot?

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Jact hates chicken and turkey? Why my heavens..... I may have to stop promoting him. :1orglaugh



Were you aware of this major flaw when you married him?

I was :( But I don't blame people for not being perfect. I love him DESPITE his flaws. I accept that people are human. :)

CDSmith 11-27-2003 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by Carlito
This thread was started for me. People that are offended by your acts & claims.
Well, she did later apologize for the "death" comment. Maybe we should try to move on, as there are certainly enough people on this board and in the US who can't stand Gee Dubya that would warrant LM having a right to that opinion.

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:26 PM

Here ya go again, officially. I apologize for making a statement that offended Bush supporters.

I will NOT apologize for being a thinking/feeling person with feelings and opinions.

If people don't want to do business with me because of my opinions, that's fine. But nobody can say I didn't apologize. (TWICE, now).

CDSmith 11-27-2003 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
I was :( But I don't blame people for not being perfect. I love him DESPITE his flaws. I accept that people are human. :)
But there are limits. I mean come ON.


No KFC?? :ak47:

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
But there are limits.


No KFC?? :ak47:

Naw he's ok with KFC, but ONLY if it's white meat.

theking 11-27-2003 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


Regardless of what you might think about my level of hostility, if I was in the US, would I not be FULLY ENTITLED TO HAVE A RIGHT TO THAT OPINION WITHOUT PERSECUTION under the US constitution? If I said "I HOPE Michael Jackson gets back what he did to children when he's in jail", would you be laughing with me? Or could I be burned at the stake for that too?

If thinking/feeling something is wrong (which it likely will be in the US, allsomeone has to do is say "terrorist") in the US, there is DEFINITELY something wrong with how people are reading the constitution. A lot of people hold VERY STRONG opinions in the states too, but I don't recall the last time it was legal OR acceptable to victimize them for that.

I have always read your posts and even agreed with you (although on the political scale we have disagreed many times, and likely always will). But I would NEVER EVER single you out with the intention of ruining business or attempting humiliation. THAT is just as over the top as you claim my statement was. I am human, what I said was something I said that I only half meant. I would NEVER truly wish harm on ANYONE. Your reason for starting this thread, however, was FULLY intended, and I am VERY offended, based on your reason alone.

While you only "hoped" for the death of the President...FYI to make any type of threating statement concerning the President...anywhere...at anytime...is a major felony in the USA...and has been for years and years. Other than that...one pretty much has the right in the US to make foolish statements...about most subjects...they choose to make themselves out an ass over.

It is my opinion that Americans should not do business with you...based upon the frequent vitriolic statements you make about the President...and America in general. I stand by this and would like Americans will take it into consideration.

theking 11-27-2003 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by ColBigBalls


fair enough.. so why sugest to many not to do buisness with someone based on an opinion? Im just sayen everyone here can read.. let them decied whom to dobuisness with:2 cents:

It is not up to me to "let" them...and as you said everyone here can read...so let them read and decide as they choose as I do not have any control over a persons choice.

LadyMischief 11-27-2003 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by theking


While you only "hoped" for the death of the President...FYI to make any type of threating statement concerning the President...anywhere...at anytime...is a major felony in the USA...and has been for years and years. Other than that...one pretty much has the right in the US to make foolish statements...about most subjects...they choose to make themselves out an ass over.


If I was actually making a threat, I would have said I WILL or something of an active nature. PLEASE be realistic. It's easy to interpret a statement any way you like when you're dissecting it. I apologized and already stated I didn't mean it seriously. So what exactly is the point of this?

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It is my opinion that Americans should not do business with you...based upon the frequent vitriolic statements you make about the President...and America in general. I stand by this and would like Americans will take it into consideration. [/B]
I have NEVER had an anti-American opinion. I have had an Anti-Bush opinion. I have stated on MANY MANY OCCASIONS that I DO NOT HATE AMERICA OR AMERICANS. My mother is an American. If 9/11 had not happened I would have my dual citizenship, and possibly live there. I think America is a great country and always have. However, I don't have to like seeing what I think is a great country brought to the ground (in my opinion) by a leader.

I would REALLY love to see you point out ONE SINGLE instance where I said America sucks. I FULLY admit to disliking and stating my dislike of Bush and his policies. DO TELL ME where I've applied that to America as a whole? Why the FUCK WOULD I CARE if I hated America? I would simply sit and laugh as the country went down in ashes, so to speak, were that the case. Would I not?

Give it a rest. I apologized. If that's not enough for you, nothing short of a complete change in my feelings and opinons is going to appease you, and that, I will not do for anyone.

Furious_Female 11-27-2003 02:36 PM

Gawd I am way too full from turkey... can't believe I was alert enough to even read 3 pages of this :1orglaugh

ColBigBalls 11-27-2003 02:37 PM

ok fuck this Bush shit... IM canadian and i hate the Prime Minister
lets hear it!!
flame me now =):winkwink:

StuartD 11-27-2003 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by theking


While you only "hoped" for the death of the President...FYI to make any type of threating statement concerning the President...anywhere...at anytime...is a major felony in the USA...and has been for years and years. Other than that...one pretty much has the right in the US to make foolish statements...about most subjects...they choose to make themselves out an ass over.

It is my opinion that Americans should not do business with you...based upon the frequent vitriolic statements you make about the President...and America in general. I stand by this and would like Americans will take it into consideration.

Lucky we're not Americans.

Anyway... I look at it this way.

I remember back in the day when Saddam would invade Kuwait... or kill his own people.... remember that?

the US citizens didn't like that.... well, they didn't care until Bush told them to hate it, but now they hate it. So, the US gov't called for Saddam to be removed from power. You know what US citizens said? KILL HIM!! BOMB HIM!!! BLOW HIM UP!!

Nice of you.

So now in the present day....

We have Bush invading Iraq. Yes, it's an invasion. Don't argue with me. He waltzs in and kills people at will and takes over the country to divide up amongst his budies.
But then, he leaves his people there to be bombed and shot and killed... HE'S KILLING HIS OWN PEOPLE. Infact, he's killing so many other people's people just by letting this happen, for making it happen in the first place. Do they have to stay? Sure, why? Because Bush put them in that predicament. It didn't have to happen.

Now, this is kinda simplistic, but it's a reality... there is a comparison to be made there between Saddam and Bush.

You don't sink to that person's low just to defeat him.

The US citizens cried out for Saddam's blood when the purpose was supposed to be to take him out of power.

You wanted his blood... you wanted his son's blood. You wished death on people you don't even know.

So does this make you better or worse than LadyM for her comments?


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