confirmed - google has made updates to fuck up seos - GoFuckYourself.com

ytcracker · 11-26-2003, 10:03 AM

http://www.searchengineguide.com/llo.../1125_bl1.html

technical analysis
With the huge number of postings on all the various forums, concerning this update, most people don't know where to start looking for information about the recent Google update. The following is an attempt to put down rationally (I hope) most of the information that is known and the (unproven) theories behind the update algo.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/20/te...4bNOfb6Zvt6okA

NY Times article
But lately a new strategy has emerged that is raising questions about business ethics and the nature of online competition. Because search engines like Google give weight to sites that are linked to other sites, companies set up networks, creating or encouraging others to create large numbers of sites that sell the same products and then linking them together. If the strategy works, what the searcher sees is a list of links that lead back to the same product or company.

ytcracker · 11-26-2003, 10:46 AM

sorta bump

brand0n · 11-26-2003, 10:51 AM

this makes no sense to me what so ever

hyatla · 11-26-2003, 10:55 AM

As a cosumer, I tend to click somewhere around page 5-10, because I always got the same junks in the top pages, and some sites are barely related to my search words.

I might not be a typical consumer, but I think more and more people are doing this--I found my personal site listed at about page 17 (under key word: asian girls) in google got more and more traffic.

Sharky · 11-26-2003, 11:30 AM

We were hit hard in this for mainstream.

we were #1 or #2 for quite a few key terms... we are not even listed now.

Meni69 · 11-26-2003, 11:46 AM

yeah i noticed, around nov 21
big drop in SE hits for my paris hilton domains
oh well
that girl did so well for me
and the money is still very good
i'll retool my sites
and put her on other sites without her name in the domains
hope i get back up to 600 joins a day

gornyhuy · 11-26-2003, 12:45 PM

Yep, I lost some really nice listings.
Now what?

Better read up.

TheJimmy · 11-26-2003, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meni69
....
hope i get back up to 600 joins a day

you know I was just thinking that the other day too!

Meni69 · 11-26-2003, 02:13 PM

hee hee
well I guess the keyword-keyword-keyword .com plan is falling apart
oh well
i'll put up new sites
and word is paris mania will not die down
this girl will be famous and popular for the next 5 years

jimthefiend · 11-26-2003, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meni69
hee hee
well I guess the keyword-keyword-keyword .com plan is falling apart
oh well
i'll put up new sites
and word is paris mania will not die down
this girl will be famous and popular for the next 5 years

paris is a hotty

but dude, in your sig?

whats a "pronstar"?

Hindsight · 11-26-2003, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
this makes no sense to me what so ever

Well think again buddy... Google is gonna float in March... as seo gets harder PPC's increase...

and then Google will fall.

Money grabbing fucks.

sexeducation · 11-26-2003, 02:42 PM

The key to the information age - is information.

I stopped writing my homepage for Google many moons ago.

I own enough generic domains to create a "Google bomb" (search this in Google) ... but I choose not to.

Google needs real information - more then I need Google.

Bow to the power of a Master Blogger.

Hindsight · 11-26-2003, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
The key to the information age - is information.

I stopped writing my homepage for Google many moons ago.

I own enough generic domains to create a "Google bomb" (search this in Google) ... but I choose not to.

Google needs real information - more then I need Google.

Bow to the power of a Master Blogger.

Who the fuck asked you peedy

Dildozer · 11-26-2003, 02:53 PM

This is pretty bad for now, but where there's an algo there's a flaw to exploit remember that.

JDog · 11-26-2003, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyatla
As a cosumer, I tend to click somewhere around page 5-10, because I always got the same junks in the top pages, and some sites are barely related to my search words.

I might not be a typical consumer, but I think more and more people are doing this--I found my personal site listed at about page 17 (under key word: asian girls) in google got more and more traffic.

This is always true! That's what I'm always doing, fuck the first couple pages!

jDoG

sexeducation · 11-26-2003, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
This is pretty bad for now, but where there's an algo there's a flaw to exploit remember that.

Exactly ...
where there is an alogorithm - there is a way to exploit that.

I got tired of battling the biggest and best in the industry (those with resources I don't have) ...

I now choose to win my customers ONE-AT-A-TIME ...

And they are very loyal.

I've NEVER had a chargeback ever.

100% loyalty.

Jon · 11-26-2003, 03:00 PM

It's a new filter. That's all really. Learn how to avoid tripping it, and you're king again.

Jon · 11-26-2003, 03:03 PM

..And just to add to the title of this thread. Google did not put the new filter up to fuck around with SEO's. In fact, they aren't saying why they are doing it at all, but we all know it's got something to do with inflating revenues for the big IPO. You can't blame them really.

xanx · 11-26-2003, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
It's a new filter. That's all really. Learn how to avoid tripping it, and you're king again.

yep

Dildozer · 11-26-2003, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
It's a new filter. That's all really. Learn how to avoid tripping it, and you're king again.

Finding out how to avoid tripping those damn filters and keeping slight relevance might be tougher than it usually was

Google has way too much power now

Jon · 11-26-2003, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer

Finding out how to avoid tripping those damn filters and keeping slight relevance might be tougher than it usually was

Google has way too much power now

It's really not as tough as you make it seem. Just play with some pages, run tests, research the new filter, and I'm more than sure you'll find what you can and cannot do anymore. Seriously, the last filter was a fucking joke, and when it was put into place, everyone went running around saying "this is the end". It's not the end, it's nowhere near it. Do your research, that's all there is to it.

TheSenator · 11-26-2003, 03:12 PM

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search

Someone figured it out....

Dildozer · 11-26-2003, 03:15 PM

Found this on another forum

Quote:

"Google needs to fine tune their code. Enter "goatse.cx" and clicking "I'm Feeling Lucky" brings you to their uptime page at Netcraft, not the horrible image we all know and cherish."

Brad-Wishing · 11-26-2003, 03:35 PM

Yeah it was obvious this round of updates was to serverly weed out keyword spammers and help make everything more mainstream for the IPO.

I don't mind - wishing held rank in a lot of keywords and went up in some as well.

One thing I did notice though is the severe degrading of relevancy of some terms. Looking up some things makes you wonder how the hell the site was even LISTED in this term let alone #2 in it.

It just means finding new ways to sneak under the radar. PR link swaps are still powerful.

11-26-2003, 10:51 AM	#3
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11-26-2003, 10:55 AM	#4
hyatla Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,720	As a cosumer, I tend to click somewhere around page 5-10, because I always got the same junks in the top pages, and some sites are barely related to my search words. I might not be a typical consumer, but I think more and more people are doing this--I found my personal site listed at about page 17 (under key word: asian girls) in google got more and more traffic. __________________ <a href="http://click.dtiserv2.com/Click/1125-99-us979" target="_blank">DTI cash: Top Asian Sponsor, $75 to new affiliates</a><br> <br> ICQ: 274731765

11-26-2003, 11:30 AM	#5
Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	We were hit hard in this for mainstream. we were #1 or #2 for quite a few key terms... we are not even listed now. __________________ Sharky

11-26-2003, 11:46 AM	#6
Meni69 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 440	yeah i noticed, around nov 21 big drop in SE hits for my paris hilton domains oh well that girl did so well for me and the money is still very good i'll retool my sites and put her on other sites without her name in the domains hope i get back up to 600 joins a day __________________ Earn $40/Free Join with Cream Bling.. Exclusive content, tube clips

11-26-2003, 12:45 PM	#7
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	Yep, I lost some really nice listings. Now what? Better read up. __________________ icq:159548293

11-26-2003, 10:03 AM	#1
ytcracker stc is the greatest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: rip sean murray Posts: 12,403	confirmed - google has made updates to fuck up seos http://www.searchengineguide.com/llo.../1125_bl1.html technical analysis With the huge number of postings on all the various forums, concerning this update, most people don't know where to start looking for information about the recent Google update. The following is an attempt to put down rationally (I hope) most of the information that is known and the (unproven) theories behind the update algo. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/20/te...4bNOfb6Zvt6okA NY Times article But lately a new strategy has emerged that is raising questions about business ethics and the nature of online competition. Because search engines like Google give weight to sites that are linked to other sites, companies set up networks, creating or encouraging others to create large numbers of sites that sell the same products and then linking them together. If the strategy works, what the searcher sees is a list of links that lead back to the same product or company. __________________ www.ytcracker.com \| www.digitalgangster.com i love you

11-26-2003, 10:46 AM	#2
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11-26-2003, 02:13 PM	#9
Meni69 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 440	hee hee well I guess the keyword-keyword-keyword .com plan is falling apart oh well i'll put up new sites and word is paris mania will not die down this girl will be famous and popular for the next 5 years __________________ Earn $40/Free Join with Cream Bling.. Exclusive content, tube clips

11-26-2003, 02:42 PM	#12
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	The key to the information age - is information. I stopped writing my homepage for Google many moons ago. I own enough generic domains to create a "Google bomb" (search this in Google) ... but I choose not to. Google needs real information - more then I need Google. Bow to the power of a Master Blogger.

11-26-2003, 02:53 PM	#14
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	This is pretty bad for now, but where there's an algo there's a flaw to exploit remember that. __________________ Spam link here

11-26-2003, 03:00 PM	#17
Jon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 2,578	It's a new filter. That's all really. Learn how to avoid tripping it, and you're king again. __________________ WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

11-26-2003, 03:03 PM	#18
Jon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 2,578	..And just to add to the title of this thread. Google did not put the new filter up to fuck around with SEO's. In fact, they aren't saying why they are doing it at all, but we all know it's got something to do with inflating revenues for the big IPO. You can't blame them really. __________________ WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

11-26-2003, 03:12 PM	#22
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,336	http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search Someone figured it out....

11-26-2003, 03:35 PM	#24
Brad-Wishing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,415	Yeah it was obvious this round of updates was to serverly weed out keyword spammers and help make everything more mainstream for the IPO. I don't mind - wishing held rank in a lot of keywords and went up in some as well. One thing I did notice though is the severe degrading of relevancy of some terms. Looking up some things makes you wonder how the hell the site was even LISTED in this term let alone #2 in it. It just means finding new ways to sneak under the radar. PR link swaps are still powerful. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.