If you vote for bush this next time around, you are voting your self out of a job.

Bush has the chrisitan colation backing him with big chunks of money. And they want porn gone. So, he will try to get rid of it. Only the strong will survive.

And if you think you are stong in this business you had better have a money reserve to put up. Because it will cost you every dime!!!


Down with bush... Shave that damn thing!!!:1orglaugh

One thing Bush does is playing a money trick with the taxes. One of the others he does is raising up Trade Barriers with foreign countries like EU and China and all others he has never heard of. In the short run this will boost your local economy, in the long run it will hit your economy hard. Sorry I don't have time to explain this further. Ask anyone who has studied some economics and he or she will tell you that I'm right.

Good luck all :)

Just like every pre election year... things always get better. It's all a smoke screen to gain votes for the 2004 election... If he is elected again, it will go down again... Remember, he needs to make up for all the lies and broken promises made to go to war.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Funniest god damned thing i heard all day.... thanks :1orglaugh

Yeah, right. It's amazing how people delude themselves into thinking things would be any different under the Dems. The Clinton administration attempted to limit online porn much more aggressively (CODA I & II). The current administration has only gone after extreme porn to this point, and I seriously doubt Bush is going to try to "get rid" of porn altogether.

With me it's not so much about the war or economy... it's the new laws that allow these new government agencies free reign to do what they want.

We are seriously becoming a communistic state with this patriot act and the homeland security. Slowly, but surely.

Do you think Clinton was thinking about towel heads when monica was sniffing cigars?

And who said I was a bush lover? ;)

Very well put...and refreshing to hear someone bring a little sense back to this thread...


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C'mon now Q! You know that you can only post on this board if you are either hard left-wing or hard right-wing! (actually, if you are moderate and consider all sides logically then the hard left will call you a fanatic right-winger.....so I guess it doesn't matter!_:1orglaugh

That's useless propaganda. People are still losing jobs, US$ is getting weaker and the world hates us and many of our allies are threatening economic war. Something has to change soon!

50 jealous bastards

Go take economics 101. Economy has its own cycle. American economy has been at the bottom for 2-3 years, with all the job cuts and production reduction, of course the economy will recover.

Government's job is try to make the recover comes as early as possible, and what Bush admistration only made things worse. :2 cents:

never mind his second term

still waiting to see if Bush can actually win his first election by votes

It's more a fascist dictatorship you guys have become, but your point stands.

Very true... but could not spell fascist.... lol...

Thanks :winkwink:

Yes, in fact the Bush administration called him obsessed with terrorism when they took over.

Hahaha... very true. :thumbsup

lol, no shit. I still can't believe that he stole the White House and it wasn't the biggest media scandal of all time. They covered that one up pretty fast. What's more amazing is that the people just let it happen. You Americans could learn a thing or two from Georgia. :winkwink:

What the fuck kind of economics have you been taking. LOL

America has been at the "bottom" for 2-3 years ? What planet do you live on .

Stop feeding these ignorant people.

Sounds like the ignorant garbage the aussies were on about the other day complaining about america's low dollar and how much the aussie dollar has risen.

What exactly do you sell in australia ? besides porn ,kangaroo furs and crocodile meat ? You have no industry and your economy is in the shitter.

America doesnt need any lessons from any third world craphole , thats why they are the biggest and most powerfull nation on earth.

Bush didnt steal the election it was a close election that, either way the winner would have been accused of cheating.

The media coverage was intense and in no way was it slanted towards the republicans as the media is not on that wing. They tried their hardest to make it a scandal , and in the end realised it can only hurt america to keep on blabbing about something that is over and done with.

The previous democrats would never have been re-elected as they were pulling down scams left and right.

Ever heard of marc rich ? Ever wonder why you would pardon a thief ?

Both parties have assholes in power, in america we have learned to try and find the best of the worst. Not the worst of the worst.

I want a Bill W. Clinton next.

Agreed... HE didn't steal it.. it was fixed for him by his brother the gov. Sorry, EVERY vote should have counted, NONE should have been tossed. Chad, Chub or what ever the hell they were calling them. :2 cents:

Bush is an IDIOT, plain and simple... he ran every business he ever had control over right into the ground... now he is doing the same to our country.

So, you love the cock?? :Graucho

It was chad, and regardless its a moot point now. As i stated ,they both tried to cheat and it was a close race. Regardless of who won it would have been called a cheat by the opposition party.

Bush may be an idiot , but that usually goes without saying when we are referring to presidents.

The world is having problems and the usa in no exception to these problems. I dont agree with many of the moves bush has made, but at the current time he is doing the best anyone in his position could do ( normal people aside as normal people dont get to be president , that would make to much sense .)

Of all the political leaders we have , who would you rather be running the country ?

People rarely vote anymore. If you took all the people who didnt vote in the last election and let them pick a choice it would be a shoe-in.

Personally although very silly to admit i almost wish we had voted in ross perot 2 rounds ago.

uh Australia's economy is one of the best performing in the world at the moment. Typical lying asshole

Yea, I liked little Ross lol

Yea, the world is having problems... We have had them in the past and will have them in the future. Hell, no politician really cares about the public, they only do just enough to get elected/re-elected. None of the leaders ever have kept their campagin promises, hell, look at daddy bush when he said "Read my lips, No new taxes". Then what, new taxes.

Little Bush is the offspring of daddy bush, the people should have known the nut does not fall far from the tree, but at least daddy bush knew how to run a business... GW ran every busines he ever had control over into the ground, so we elect him to do the same to the country.

Sorry, this country is in sad shape and is really not getting any better. It may till the election is over, then it will be back to shit again.

Agree or not, you cannot ignore the facts, Regan, Bush and Bush did nothing for this country except hurt it. Clinton was not that much better, but I would rather see a president getting blowjob than a president creating new agencies to invade my privacy.

Think they are not watching your internet? Think again. They are watching EVERYONE right now. Speak of revolution, or some other unthinkable act and see how fast they come knocking down your door.

Fuck the rest of the world, we need to mind our own fucking business, if someone brings the fight here, then we fight back.

For example.... I think you have something of mine but have no real proof, just hearsay of others... so I invade you home and kill your two children... is that right?

I am not saying that saddam and his sons were angels... hell they were bad men, but they did nothing to us that would justify war. They may have weapons and may use them on us is not good enough. That is their country, how they treat their people is their business, we are not the worlds police.

I cannot see how anyone can think this man is doing a good job. Not anyone with half a brain anyway.

Can't we just once get a leader in office that does not care about the power, money or status and will do what is right for the people? There has to be someone out there that is still honest. I mean the whole world can't be corrupt... can it?

PS - The only thing I have against Clinton.. ok 2 things...

1. Lying to the american public on national tv about the affair.

2. allowing that damn tobacco lawsuit to happen. Sorry, they should have penalized the tobacco comapnies and not the end user. They lied about it's safety, we didn't yet we suffer these high prices... What a crock of shit. Hell, I ahve been smoking for over 22 years.. I read the label before I started... I knew it could be dangerous to my health... fuck that asshole and that fucking lawsuit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:321GFY

Other than that, I think he did a good job.

the same ones clinton ignored? bin laden? the guy that clinton could have destroyed but decided not to? that one?

Actually those laws were passed by a Republican Senate.
The courts ruled them un-constitutional. The Clinton administration decided NOT to appeal that decision.

Accused, sure, the only thing is it would be lying if you said it about Gore. Bush's brother and his Dad's buddies on the Supreme Court handed him the election. I don't agree with you on much but I get the feeling you aren't stupid, like most Bush supporters are, so I'm going to assume that deep down under all the talk radio propaganda spewing out of your mouth, you know that's true.



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You've got to be fucking kidding me. What media were you watching, CBC or BBC? You're obviously not talking about Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, or any of the American networks.



yeah Marc Rich is in the same league as good 'ol Kenny boy, keep believing that. You think Lay is going to see a day in prison? If you believe that I have some swampland to sell you. I think you summed up this issue down here...
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Bush is the worst of the worst of the worst, and anyone who can't see that is either:

a) stupid
b) blind
c) in denial

or of coarse

d) Barbra Bush.

Show me where Clinton killed more Americans, did more damage to our planet, had more nations pissed off the USA, put more Americans out of work and on the street, put you in greater dept to the international banks, or did anything worse that Bush besides get a fucking blowjob that the repressed "Christian" Republicans can't seem to get over, and I'll bend over and kiss Bush's greedy ass.

smokey you are a goddamn idiot.
i didn't see that other thread but this comment makes you look like an ignorant joke.

Another person who responds without reading the threads. I can uderstand you might get offended when i mention australia, as your an australian, but what i said about australia still stands. And to add to that , it seems most of the people that gripe about george dubya, are only doing so because their country is in the shitter and who else to blame but the most powerfull rich nation on earth. I dont blame you for feeling that way , i can only point out the facts as they stand and not dirty the water with personal feelings, such as jealousy or hatred.

Australia is a beautifull place, great continent, and even though the bloodilines may not be so pure, a great bunch of people, with a political power that usa needs to take lessons from.

Educate yourself or shut the fuck up!

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Bush didnt steal the election it was a close election that, either way the winner would have been accused of cheating.

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Im not a bush supporter im someone who takes the facts and learns from them. And reports when i see lies or obvious mis-truths, such as the above.

Anyone with a sane mind can agree the election was so twisted to the american public that by the time it was over , it was in the best results of the public and america to go with what we had, And that was a close race decided by a very few amount of people.

Trust me the democrats tried every trick in the book to try and make it look like a conspiracy, but in the end the facts didnt work like that. If it boiled down to the chads, then bush won regardless of what way you want to look at it. The ACTUAL amount of votes thrown out didnt/wouldnt have affected the totals.


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The media coverage was intense and in no way was it slanted towards the republicans as the media is not on that wing.

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All of the above and more. The news media is/was generally
democrat oriented, so it wouldnt make sense that they tried to cover it up for bush as it wouldnt help them in any way ?

All they talked about at the time was bush and how he was cheating the american public , yet public opinion is not always swayed by prejudice information.






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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Ever heard of marc rich ? Ever wonder why you would pardon a thief ?

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In 1983, Rich was indicted in federal court of evading more than $48 million in taxes. He was also charged with 51 counts of tax fraud and with running illegal oil deals with Iran during the hostage crisis. These deals resulted in american being killed

Clinton pardoned him for a $1 million dollar bribe made to the clinton party by marc rich's wife.



Bush hasnt done any of the things you mention. Unemployment hasnt really changed , the poverty levels in america havent really changed much , and debt hasnt really changed either.

Clinton got to ride an easy train as usa was not having the troubles they are now. These troubles were not created by bush they just happened to fall in his lap while he is in office.

For the record , i dont like bush much either, and would hope america feels the same when he goes up for re-election. BUT you cant make up false accusations to get your point across . PERIOD

Clinton got alot of americans killed , put us in alot of debt, and put lots of americans out on the street, So have all the presidents.

But you cant compare the 2 presidents that way. Clinton didnt have to deal with 9/11 he didnt have to deal with terrorism, he didnt have to deal with corporate honcho's stealing money from the public.

Sometimes you have to look at both the good and the bad and come to your own conclusions. Im just saying keep an open mind instead of blaming the USA and GEORGE BUSH for all the problems we have today.

Hmm... "the government said"

Would this be the same government with a department (CIA) that gave false information to the president about Iraq related intelligence?

Or maybe the government that professed as having all sorts of proof to justify the Irag war... then shows none of this proof?

Ahhh... I'll definitely believe what they have to say about the economy..

The government said.

The government said?

Of course the government said!

Like the government is going to say the economy is in the shitter.

It was a Repub conspiracy that dropped that branch on your boat Headie! :1orglaugh

no it doesn't. I really don't give a fuck about slagging australia off.. i do it myself sometimes.. but you're just plain wrong, which i can't stand.


Australia?s economy was judged the most resilient in the world (1)
Australia has an average economic growth of around 3.5% in the last five years, with a forecast growth of 3.2% for 2003, compared to OECD average of 1.9%.
The Australian political environment is ranked as the most stable in the world (1)
Australia has an open, transparent and efficient regulatory environment
Australia has a welcoming, open and direct approach to foreign direct investment
(1) Source: 2002 International Institute for Management Development (IMD) World Competitiveness Yearbook.


Australia?s dynamic Information and Communications Technology (ICT) Industry is one of the most innovative and dynamic sectors of the Australian economy making it a great place to do business and a logical target for your business..

Australia?s ICT industry is a technically sophisticated market that is easy to penetrate, and provides a natural gateway to the fast-growing Asian market.

Australia is the third largest ICT market in Asia Pacific, after Japan and China.
Australia is the 11th largest ICT market in the world.
Australia ranks fourth in ICT spending as a percentage of GDP.
Each year Australia imports around US$10 billion in ICT goods and services.
The Australian ICT industry accounts for around eight per cent of gross domestic product.
The Australian ICT industry has a sustained average annual growth rate approaching 12% over the last 5 years - more than 2.5 times the average growth rate of the Australian economy and producing AUD$50 billion of goods and services in 2001/02.

Australians are amongst the most sophisticated and intensive users of ICT in the world, ranking as leaders in the adoption of leading-edge ICT applications.

Australia ranks among the top countries in the world measured by standard business and policy indicators, including network digitisation, penetration of personal computers and Internet host density.
In May 2001 Australia was second to the United States in the Economist Intelligence Unit's "E-business Readiness Rankings".
Four out of every five Australian businesses use computers, just under three in every five access the Internet, and one in every six has a website.
Australian homes, businesses and government house the world?s 8th largest installed base of PCs, at over 12.5 million nationally.
Over 50% of the population has Internet access at home.

As Australia's leading business and finance centre, Sydney, the home of CeBIT Australia, has the largest concentration of ICT companies in the country.

According to Fortune magazine, Sydney was the second best city in Asia-Pacific to do business at the end of 2000.
Sydney?s economic size is estimated at approximately US$100 billion, which represents 25-30 percent of Australia?s total economic activity. This is equivalent to the economic size of Singapore and about half that of Hong Kong.
More than 275 global corporations have already chosen Sydney as their regional headquarter.


Fastest growing developed economy for the past five years,with 3.8 per cent GDP growth in 2002.n
3.0 per cent forecast for 2003.n15th largest economy in the world, and 4th largest in Asia.n
Ranked 7th in the world on GDP per capita, up from 15th in 1990.n
Productivity gains in the 1990s outstripped the US.n
Impressive record of policy reform - open markets, deregulation ofkey sectors, tax and labour market reforms.n
Second only to the US in the 2001 ?e-readiness? survey by theEconomist Intelligence Unit. One of the six fastest growing ?neweconomies? by the OECD.n
Highly skilled, multilingual workforce with 25 per cent of peoplespeaking a language other than English at home.n
Australia has high standards for environmental protection andlabour rights.n
Transparent, highly developed and effective systems of governmentand corporate regulation

for the 15th largest economy to be pumped out by a measely 20million people we're doing alright. Im sorry you're so wrong.

Always thinking of the cock drav... Things never change... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Say it aint so! LOL