fifififty

That all depends on what terms you would like to target. There are some very basic things that can be done with http://www.chokinchicken.com/ from an SE perspective. Longs lists like that can be tough to work on page factors, but it can be done.

That PR8 404 page is probably a fluke. What other 8's do you have. http://www.chokinchicken.com/ shows a pr5 from my end.

I've done SE OPS since 1997 and can provide numerous
references. My rate is $150 and hour.

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ICQ#126813938

Do it yourself for nothing.Just put a gap between your words/Like instead of amateur baldpussy have amateur bald pussy.Don't have more than 100 links to a page though that doesn't really matter too much and just put a nit of bullshit text at the top in H1 and H2 tags about amateur girls.
Too eeeaassy!

Drugs are baddddd

yeah - that's all it takes to get top listings - hahaha - NOT

:321GFY

Choker hit me up on ICQ 192538162, I'd rather speak to you in private about this :)

Mate what the fuck would you know.
Choker before you pay some wankers who pretend they have some esoteric knowhow.Try what I said.If you wanted to be sure about dominating put all those linked text in your title tags and I am telling you you will score big in google.

thanks but for $150 a hour, I can get a hell of a lot more traffic other ways than all the SE's combinded could ever give me. No offense intended. The problem here is that sometimes my sites are 8s, sometimes 7's and sometimes 5. Many guys are telling me the same, so it is not my toolbar it is googles system. Something wierd is going on here.

Googles toolbar is fluctuating at the moment as its going through an update

did u say flactulance?

both links are a pr5

You can't compare Volume to Quality. TGP quality sucks ass compared to SE traffic. With 30,000 SE hits a day I can convert 1:30. So I don't need volume. You can't compare apples to oranges.

My opening is a 5 and the *main.html* page(all of the traffic) is a 4 tonight. Who says optimization works?:1orglaugh

And just to shoot down your PR theories the *archives* page(which is rarely visited) is a *3*. The page is indexed highly in searches, but way old. How advanced is that? And they are planning on IPOing this search engine? That's funny!

Chooookie, I see PR8 on the ones you posted. Something really odd is going on with Google tool bar. Like few hours ago, I saw PR5 and PR6. Odd. :eek2
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choker i can optimize your page just for free - you can pay me with small text link on your 404 page to my site (exchange of PR)
you can hit me on the icq: 165012709

does anyone apart from jay know what he is talking about?

choker you should drop me a line on either icq or email
59 101 924 or gfy @ niche-galleries. com
i will forward you to guys who really know what they are talking about....
i wouldnt fall on the majority of clowns on this board
but thats up to you

as far as your PR goes....
do this:

you need to edit the hosts file
go to: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\

there you add this line:
216.239.37.100 toolbarqueries.google.com

then close all IE windows and there you go

the above code/ip is suspected to show your new PR at an accuracy of about 90%


if you wanna know more you know what to do

my results in google speaks instead of me:-), thats why i dont need to have any signature on GFY as a lot of others sig whores, especially these with TCG:-)

Choker I don't think google counts sites that are pointing to each other which are on the same named servers!! then again it might!

Google is weird, you see sites popping up in the first page on search terms which have no pr rank at all!!

:1orglaugh

so you wanna play the who got the bigger dick game.....
i would love to do that....

you got my icq# moron
lets see whos more successful with google
:1orglaugh

i got a nice idea....
how about this.....

you name a keyword.. a good one to target on...
and we both start a site from 0
whoever got the better position after a month is the winner
so -

got balls???

you know how to reach me... we will see if i will hear from you

:glugglug

Choker,
I would help you optimize you sites.
What is your email address or ICQ me.

Thanks to everyone for thier help, but I am more confused than ever now. LOL. I got a idea for a program to take advantage of the high PR 's and will open it soon.

high PR's do not equal top rankings..

especially if link tracking is involved, but people who post to TGP's really dont care anyway about their SE rank, just the fast instant traffic.

if you have a toplist that links to you like this:

http://whatever.com/clickcount.cgi?out = (you fill the rest in)

and your site is

http://www.mysite.com

it will not improve your PR or rankings. To get good recips,
the site must link to your actual URL, not a redirect, and also the keywords should be in the anchor text.

seems rather to me that you wanna play this game, but i accept your proposal...it will be useful for both sidese. i will send you icq message on the weekend.

The technical explanation

http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank.html

WiredGuy..... nuff said :thumbsup

Ugh.. PR threads..

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Wow.. goodluck getting those pages to the top man. I would take the project if I didn't have others on my plate now. I've got some friends in Europe that may be interested instead, then again, there's always WiredGuy (he rocks at SEO, don't let him tell you otherwise)!

ICQ me if you can't find anyone soon.

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Paris Hilton Sex Tape. Ill pay the winner $1000 for the domains its on if its in top 10:)

After yesterday's shakeup can anyone really say they can optimize a site for high rankings? They just devalued bs keyword backlinks and page stuffing and we all know page rank now means jack shit.

I agree with you teomaxxx.You have to have doubts about these guys that pay their rent from their sigs.Especially when they are all trying to game choker into getting him to hire them.His sites have all the off page factors in place already and it would take nothing to have chokers pages placed high on Google's serps.

perfect
finally someone with balls on the board


and swami you little fucking nobody
you dont fucking know me... so you should better not question me and my abilities

LOL.you were the one that started the sledging.:1orglaugh

You gotta be able to take it as well.:winkwink:

just curious: has anyone seen a site with a PR of 10?

yahoo and microsoft have 9, i guess you can't really go higher than that, can you?

the rabbit

Google.com
Apple.com
W3.org

WG

Thanks Ice and NiteChatDotTV. Really appreciate the vote of confidence like that!

WG

It's interesting that the instructions for a "Google Bomb" is basically contained in this thread.

If you're just a "50" poster and never read this thread - you missed some important SEO information.

:1orglaugh :321GFY

Having read many SEO-Chat threads on the subject, there seems to be as many exact opinions as there are posters. Some say the more links the better, some say cross links don't count as much and so on...

What is clear is that a handful at Google know and that they change the rules sometimes.... I saw my sites and others such as shemp's go up and down like a yo-yo earlier this week.

With a PR8, you're in not-to-worry ville. What counts more is postion on keywords. Youn can have a PR2 and still rank high with your search words of choice. Google is obviously trying to find methods to circumvent the "cheaters", like those using refer bombs. They create unreal reports in Google. My opinion is that there is no substitute for real content and that sooner or later google will figure out away around all the doorway, refer-bomb and the like tatics.

Google has a TOS, violate it and run the risk... Many have made a ton of cash violating the rules to date, no doubt.

Oh fuck, they're just evil and want to put all the SEO consultants out of a job. My opinion is just that - you don't need an SEO consultant. Your sites are working, your traffic is up, so WTF, enjoy!!! What are they going to do - get you a PR10, then what?

Before all the weird re-calculation and re-indexing of Google started there were 2 sites (I know of) which had a PR of 8 for several weeks/months: xnxx.com and bangthumbs.com

At the moment you can't trust anything Google: one of my sites dropped from #1 and #2 spot for 'porn series' right out of the top 1,000, another of my sites dropped from #7 to 545, Stramm's page (doubledrilled.com) which took over the #1 spot was down to ~200 the next day... :ugone2far

A PR8 for an adult site, good point! At 1st, I thought that with Chokers Traffic Trade program and all the galleries... he must have zillions of backlinks and content...

So for grins I ran a comparison using MarketLeaps tool. http://www.chokinchicken.com/ vs. drudgereport.com (also a PR8). The results come back with chokinchicken.com having an above average presence and drudge is rated as a 900 lbs Gorilla! Huge difference in web presence. So it is a good question.

Currently (as this post is made)
TheHun - PR6
Sleazydream - PR6
Richardsrealm - PR6
Absolut-series - PR6
Pussyluvers - PR4 - down from a PR5 lastweek... MFs
Shemp - PR6
GFY - PR3
Google - PR10
Microsoft - PR10 up from a PR8 a couple of weeks ago
Apple - PR10
89.com - PR6

Looks like most of the big TGPs are at a PR6..

With the latest Google toolbar, I show chokinchicken at a PR8 - WTF?

I am not complaining. After this last update about a third of my sites gained at least 1 PR.