I remember a thread where thehun was thinking of going that way - paying to submit, but with no guarantee. Not sure if it was him who launch the idea, but it was discussed.

And most of the guy agreed that it could be a good idea...

In my opinion, I don't feel like paying a fee to "maybe, one day", get a gallery listed. The only exception will be if I trust in the TGP owner.

I agree with your sentiments. Unfortunately, on the Internet,
he who has the traffic sets the rules. TGP gallery submitters need the TGP owners more than the other way around. I agree with your sentiments though--this is similar to the defunct Yahoo charge of paying XXX $ in the HOPES that Yahoo will list a site.

Depends on the site. You can have a 400k/day site that sends 2000 hits to a gallery link, and you can have a 30k/day site that drops 20k on a gallery link.

i'd never pay money to submit with no guarentee of getting listed. i rather spend my money on lottery tickets if thats how it was gonna be. i also think ppl use content that is too good for tgps just trying to get listed, why anyone uses paid content for a tgp is beyond me. i guess if your making good money its one thing but giving them paysite quality content for free is not good business in my opinion.

Paided submissions are the last step before "no submissions", IMHO. The next step will be improved sponsor galleries, with literally tens of thousands of galleries being available from major sponsors. They will then essentially deal directly the the TGPs to garner the traffic and sales.

The only slowdown in this is that most sponsors, even with large numbers of galleries, are not able to produce enough variation in the galleries to keep it from looking like a ripoff.

Enjoy making free galleries... that business model is almost done.

Alex

I agree with your sentiments. Unfortunately, on the Internet,
he who has the traffic sets the rules. TGP gallery submitters need the TGP owners more than the other way around. I agree with your sentiments though--this is similar to the defunct Yahoo charge of paying XXX $ in the HOPES that Yahoo will list a site.











[QUOTE]Originally posted by AWS Venus
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I remember a thread where thehun was thinking

boy I hope world sex doesnt do that cause there traffic is wellll....

Ive heard this was endorsed by the Leader, so get with the program, you guys.

Well it certainly thins out the competition in the TGP market, doesn't it? Only the people that are seriously going to try TGP are going to submit if they have to pay to do it, or apply for partner accounts even. It will be nice not having cheap fuckers/cheaters/content thieves posting as much, because honestly, if they're paying for posting on TGP's, they are probably paying for hosting/content etc too. I'm sick of seeing our content stolen again and again by the same few assholes and used on the same fucking freehosts and posted to the same tgps.

hehehehe I think I know what you are referring to :thumbsup

Either way, this may be the big PAY DAY the big guys are waiting for. SHGs = MONEY Paid listings through traffic brokers = MORE MONEY Payments for non guaranteed listings = EVEN MORE MONEY

50 pay to submit TGPs

bump for the night dudez!

Cheaters are a problem, but there is no way they can force all small (even medium) TGP's to start charging for submissions - they would simply go out of business.

Cheaters can be beaten mostly, and if small-medium sized TGP webmasters want to stay in the game and be able to keep up, I suggest you visit the link in my sig, and give me an ICQ about submitting your cheater list.

I havent been doing this for all that long. but common business sense just says, if you make even $1 extra back to invest into something with small amounts of money. Its always worth it. Who cares about if its not making a killing, If you make more then you put in, its worth if, it you lose , its not, as simple as that.

I agree with you to an extent. However, did you factor in the concept of OPPORTUNITY COSTS?