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Old 11-22-2003, 08:01 PM   #151
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Weren't you the one that was just telling Battuss he was an idiot because he couldn't set filters...and now you admit they are easily bypassed?

So basically you say: "Stop crying, use filters"
But said filters are worthless?

Note that as a disclaimer, I get barely any spam, except for in an old hotmail account I use specifically for the purpose of registering for things I KNOW will spam me..so Im not an anti by any means. Just pointing out what seems like a big steaming pile of hypocrisy
it was a joke, filters are somewhat easy to get past, but will block a large amount of the spam being sent. like if your trying to block viagara, well dont just block the whole work block "agra", as well. its not really in any words in common usage, and if you look at the subjects and such used to spam viagra(at least the ones in my inbox) a lot of them only change the first compile letters. kind of like this "RE:FWD:Order Vi)agra. From Home" many spammers use the same tricks to slip past filters. as most are aiming at getting past filters on the server rather then the inbox.

like blocks against foreign domains that no one you would be talking to might be using. and if your an admin you have even great abilities to block based on broader criteria. if youve been on aol lately, it goes to show that a little bit of thought can do a lot to block spam. very little spam sent externally to aol is getting into inboxs. postfix for one also has many great ways to filter out spam if one doesnt want it.

i mail. but its very clean. i guess i agree that the really bad proxy spammers, and forgers are bullshit, and im glad thats being put to an end. but i still think that spam really isnt that bad of an issue that some make it out to be. why isnt yahoo and hotmail or any of the other companies on the forefront of anti-spam legislation? in fact i seem to recall some of them spoke out against many of the past anti-spam initiatives that have been brought up in the past. because its really not that big of an issue. its fairly easily combatted with a little know how. there are many things in life that wont go away. that also must be combatted in this life. there are lots of anti spam software and such out there that really do work effectly. i think mail delivery for all spammers is down across the board. which goes to show that it is working effectly. its just that there are more and more spammers popping up daily because they think its easy money, just like this industry.

i guess i just dont like anyone whining enough to thier government about anything to create more laws. its like they cant take care of themselfs so they bitch to thier government to change it rather then getting off thier asses and doing something about themselfs. they would rather just sit back and let someone else fight thier battles for them. governments should govern not rule.

with all the joblessness in the IT sectors. you could look at it like spammers are creating jobs for jobless IT people(j/k)

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Old 11-22-2003, 08:14 PM   #152
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I live in the same small city as the guys who did the spamming ..


I'll go kick some ass for a small fee
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Old 11-22-2003, 10:36 PM   #153
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Spammers are just another form of a pedophile, anyone that wants to supply a under age child with porn is in the same class as a pedo.
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Old 11-23-2003, 12:48 AM   #154
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Spammers are just another form of a pedophile, anyone that wants to supply a under age child with porn is in the same class as a pedo.
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Old 11-23-2003, 01:24 AM   #155
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Spammers are just another form of a pedophile, anyone that wants to supply a under age child with porn is in the same class as a pedo.
supplying children with porn is a LOT differant then looking at porn with children in it.
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Old 11-23-2003, 01:29 AM   #156
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If the stuff I was getting was "opted in" to, spammers wouldn't have to use subject lines like:

get ch*ap vi*gr* - make your p*nis big'g'ger.

Do these fuckedheads really think I am going to buy something from them?

When I got up to 3000 pieces of spam a day, I changed all my mail accounts. Shitheads are making it impossible to use mail for anything productive anymore.

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Old 11-23-2003, 01:53 AM   #157
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Every problem forces a solution. Look at how freely available popup blockers are now.

Spam is the biggest problem on the net, and it will cause a backlash. Email is already unusable, which forces a solution .. and we are starting to see those cures already.

I have my report spam on macro, and it takes 5 seconds to send a report to the relevant place. But in the end when I get tired of doing it 3000+ times a week I will just get spamarrest or something else.
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Old 11-23-2003, 01:57 AM   #158
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it's funny to see the ignorant come out and talk shit against spam hehe
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Old 11-23-2003, 02:06 AM   #159
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it's funny to see the ignorant come out and talk shit against spam hehe
and they just dont get it either.
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Old 11-23-2003, 02:10 AM   #160
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and they just dont get it either.
they're just ign'ant

meanwhile, TCG, CE, SIC, ARS, SC, PB, and all the other big guys are spamming more than 100mil per day on THEIR OWN, let alone the spammers they allow to send to their programs =)
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Old 11-23-2003, 02:16 AM   #161
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they're just ign'ant

meanwhile, TCG, CE, SIC, ARS, SC, PB, and all the other big guys are spamming more than 100mil per day on THEIR OWN, let alone the spammers they allow to send to their programs =)
cool you named names so i didnt have to. good too see that other people understand it and see it how it really is. rather then living int he clouds on the subject.
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Old 11-23-2003, 05:13 AM   #162
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Spam is here to stay.. get use to it..

Suck some more dick all you net nazi cock suckers.
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Old 11-23-2003, 06:00 AM   #163
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Anti's are pretty stupid, If i see something in my mail that i dont like, i delete it. Is that so difficult? People have to make such a big issue. Spammers are trying to earn a living just like the rest of us. Some might not have certain resources that some of us are fortunate to have. Most are beginner webmasters. and im sure you have all heard the term, need money to make money..


The guy also probably has a real small prick.
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