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Mr.Fiction 11-22-2003 06:32 PM

Two days old:
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Why 11-22-2003 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
battus, just ignore why and maybe he'll go away. if he's too stupid to know that maybe 20% MAXIMUM of spam remove links work, he's too uninformed to talk to.
your right i wouldnt know how many of them work. im intelligent enough to not get very much spam, and i just click delete rather then bitch about it.

Dirty F 11-22-2003 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Why dont we get back at the underaged kids that get porn in their mailbox part.

Let me see, first you guys said they have no email boxes, then you said, they shouldnt have any emailboxes and then i pointed out in a post that there are millions of kids with an email box.

Now, i as a webmaster, get already tons of spam that i shouldnt receive, you can only imagine how many kids get porn in their mail box.

We already had the part where you said kids shoulndt have mail, besides the fact that is a completely idiot comment, it also wont happen...they have mailboxes.

Now while you guys laugh your way to the bank does it bother you at all that youre sending porn to underaged kids?


Administrator 11-22-2003 06:37 PM

mmmmm spam:thumbsup

fuzebox 11-22-2003 06:41 PM

I love making fuck all as a sysadmin 9-5 for a spam filtering company when I could be making 10x as much spamming :)

Why 11-22-2003 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuzebox
I love making fuck all as a sysadmin 9-5 for a spam filtering company when I could be making 10x as much spamming :)
well then start spamming, at least you already know how to get past filters. :)

Dirty F 11-22-2003 06:49 PM

Funny how Why will get away with my question about underaged kids who get his spam in their box because he has me on ignore. We all know he does read my posts but we cannot proof it.

Maybe someone else should quote my question so we know he reads it.

maxjohan 11-22-2003 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
and i think many of these companies wouldnt be around had it not been for spams profittability back in the early days.

the internet was built on spam, and is still its most profittable type of traffic. so get used to it. its here to stay.

you read that on some spammahs board..I can bet!! because you have no clue..yes this "companies" is worth nothing in my eyes if they do spam now, it's that simple..from a spammahs eyes, I am shore that you're qiet impressed with there "success"..

:glugglug

Tipsy 11-22-2003 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Funny how Why will get away with my question about underaged kids who get his spam in their box because he has me on ignore. We all know he does read my posts but we cannot proof it.

Maybe someone else should quote my question so we know he reads it.

Amusing that he's put you on ignore. Must mean you've got to the idiot if nothing else. :glugglug

Why 11-22-2003 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxjohan
you read that on some spammahs board..I can bet!! because you have no clue..yes this "companies" is worth nothing in my eyes if they do spam now, it's that simple..from a spammahs eyes, I am shore that you're qiet impressed with there "success"..

:glugglug

or rather i know because iv been contributing to thier bottomline for years, as they have to mine. and because iv worked at more then one of these companies.(sponsors that is)

maxjohan 11-22-2003 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
well then start spamming, at least you already know how to get past filters. :)
moral issues..hope there is a hell after life. You laugh now but later it's a fucking life time in hell..because in the next life you live forever!!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Why 11-22-2003 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy


Amusing that he's put you on ignore. Must mean you've got to the idiot if nothing else. :glugglug

sorry i cant see his post about 12 year olds and email boxs because i have them all on ignore.

and i dont think i raised the argument over 12 year olds and email boxs, just simply said what kind fo a parent lets thier child wander the internet without supervision. thats like dropping them off in times square and saying "have fun kids, ill be back to pick you up at 9"

Dirty F 11-22-2003 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
or rather i know because iv been contributing to thier bottomline for years, as they have to mine. and because iv worked at more then one of these companies.(sponsors that is)
You spammed for years and yet you have to guts to tell me "why dont you just click the unsubsribe button"
Everybody knows that will just get you verified as an active account, but you, the spam guru tells me otherwise.

maxjohan 11-22-2003 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
or rather i know because iv been contributing to thier bottomline for years, as they have to mine. and because iv worked at more then one of these companies.(sponsors that is)
can you tell me this companies because I don't belive you..

:glugglug

Tipsy 11-22-2003 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
sorry i cant see his post about 12 year olds and email boxs because i have them all on ignore.

and i dont think i raised the argument over 12 year olds and email boxs, just simply said what kind fo a parent lets thier child wander the internet without supervision. thats like dropping them off in times square and saying "have fun kids, ill be back to pick you up at 9"

Understandable that you have him on ignore. Arguing with someone who has very valid and logical arguments must be tough when your own IQ is lower than that of the average 12yr old you spam :) Far easier to simply ignore the guy. :glugglug

Dirty F 11-22-2003 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
sorry i cant see his post about 12 year olds and email boxs because i have them all on ignore.

and i dont think i raised the argument over 12 year olds and email boxs, just simply said what kind fo a parent lets thier child wander the internet without supervision. thats like dropping them off in times square and saying "have fun kids, ill be back to pick you up at 9"

Just keep sending your porn to the kids dude....its their parent fault if they see it, not yours.
Just keep thinking that, it will make your life better.

Dirty F 11-22-2003 06:59 PM

Aight, im gonna watch some tele.

Thanks to those who defended me.

Why 11-22-2003 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxjohan
moral issues..hope there is a hell after life. You laugh now but later it's a fucking life time in hell..because in the next life you live forever!!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

i dont think god hates spammers. i dont think god hates anyone. i think he gave us minds of our own to use as we see fit. and i dont think that spamming is breaking any of the 10 commandments. and i do onto to others as i would have them do onto me, i accept them no matter what they do for a living and no matter what they do in this life as long as they arent hurting anyone. whether i agree with it or not.

im not an absolutist ASSHOLE trying to cram anything down peoples throats. i think people should be free to do as they see fit.

Why 11-22-2003 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy


Understandable that you have him on ignore. Arguing with someone who has very valid and logical arguments must be tough when your own IQ is lower than that of the average 12yr old you spam :) Far easier to simply ignore the guy. :glugglug

unfortuantely for you. I personally have never had the 12yr old card played on me by an anti, and if i did id tell them to utilize proper supervision and watch thier children when they let them roam around the uncontrolled, and uncensored internet but apparently that concept is way beyond you. most of my lists are compiled of paysite members, so thus they are most likely of age, or have at least paid to look at adult material. you have no more valid arguments then to keep bringin up the 12 year old thing.

so GO FUCK YOURSELF tipsy.

Tipsy 11-22-2003 07:06 PM

:glugglug

Why 11-22-2003 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxjohan
can you tell me this companies because I don't belive you..

:glugglug

well then dont. im not trying tp prove anything to you.

Lane 11-22-2003 07:08 PM

spamming just wont last long as a business model.

i rather spend my time specializing on more useful business skills, which will actually mean something in the future.

Why 11-22-2003 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
spamming just wont last long as a business model.

i rather spend my time specializing on more useful business skills, which will actually mean something in the future.

i think spamming has been around a lot longer then TGP's and circle jerks.

id rather click delete 200 times a day then close 200 CJ windows.

StupidFuckingWhore 11-22-2003 07:23 PM

interesting thread. i find spamming interersting but i hate the 100+ emails i get on a daily basis, which filtering is useless because i always lose automated emails from sponsors, ect that i need to read. some points on my opinions about spamming:

-if spamming was such a legitimate form of advertising i don't there would be such a grey area of legality and laws trying to be pushed through to regulate/outlaw it.

-like i said before filters don't really work. i lose emails that i need

- some high school and such actually give kids email addresses, there are courses that teach them how to use the net, email and even html

-if spamming wasn't looked down upon as unethical everyone would do it, conversions would suck and email would be useless.

GeneriMike 11-22-2003 07:25 PM

lol

fuzebox 11-22-2003 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
well then start spamming, at least you already know how to get past filters. :)
Oh and I will, I will... :Graucho

Just need to find some decent offwhore sheeeit to run it from on a budget.

fuzebox 11-22-2003 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss


You spammed for years and yet you have to guts to tell me "why dont you just click the unsubsribe button"
Everybody knows that will just get you verified as an active account, but you, the spam guru tells me otherwise.

To be fair that doesn't really work these days, thanks to heat from the feds a lot of unsubscribe buttons do work, and the spammers rely on hahahahahading images with uniq codes in the url to track accounts :)

Plan9 11-22-2003 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
well then start spamming, at least you already know how to get past filters. :)
Weren't you the one that was just telling Battuss he was an idiot because he couldn't set filters...and now you admit they are easily bypassed?

So basically you say: "Stop crying, use filters"
But said filters are worthless?

Note that as a disclaimer, I get barely any spam, except for in an old hotmail account I use specifically for the purpose of registering for things I KNOW will spam me..so Im not an anti by any means. Just pointing out what seems like a big steaming pile of hypocrisy :Graucho

[Brian] 11-22-2003 07:38 PM

'Why' is perhaps the most annoying person on GFY. That's all.

Plan9 11-22-2003 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=advertising

there is a link for your ass, while you spend some time thinkign about how much if a fucking dolt you are, maybe you should read that and realize that spam IS indeed a legitimate form of advertising.

most advertising is unwanted anyways, specially to me, i buy stuff based on word of mouth, the best form of advertising there is, rather then shit i see on tv or billboards.

just because you particularly dislike spam doesnt mean its any more illegitimate then any other form of advertising, get off your fucking horse ass hole. and realize there are many opinions on every matter. your absolutism shows your ignorance, trying to force your view of spam down my throat not only makes you an ass, but a blind one at that.

you live in amsterdam for christs sake, one of the most tolerant societys in the world presently. yet you dont have any tolerance.

By the way, I think your wrong - in that spam DOES differ from alot of other forms of advertising. Many other forms of advertising that are considered legitimate, are easily justifiable because they are paying for a service we are receiving - Television, access to a website, radio programs, etc...

And by the way - there are certain states that have outlawed billboards, and from what I've heard, spam is soon to come - isn't there a shitload of anti-spam legislation in congress?

Why 11-22-2003 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plan9


Weren't you the one that was just telling Battuss he was an idiot because he couldn't set filters...and now you admit they are easily bypassed?

So basically you say: "Stop crying, use filters"
But said filters are worthless?

Note that as a disclaimer, I get barely any spam, except for in an old hotmail account I use specifically for the purpose of registering for things I KNOW will spam me..so Im not an anti by any means. Just pointing out what seems like a big steaming pile of hypocrisy :Graucho

it was a joke, filters are somewhat easy to get past, but will block a large amount of the spam being sent. like if your trying to block viagara, well dont just block the whole work block "agra", as well. its not really in any words in common usage, and if you look at the subjects and such used to spam viagra(at least the ones in my inbox) a lot of them only change the first compile letters. kind of like this "RE:FWD:Order Vi)agra. From Home" many spammers use the same tricks to slip past filters. as most are aiming at getting past filters on the server rather then the inbox.

like blocks against foreign domains that no one you would be talking to might be using. and if your an admin you have even great abilities to block based on broader criteria. if youve been on aol lately, it goes to show that a little bit of thought can do a lot to block spam. very little spam sent externally to aol is getting into inboxs. postfix for one also has many great ways to filter out spam if one doesnt want it.

i mail. but its very clean. i guess i agree that the really bad proxy spammers, and forgers are bullshit, and im glad thats being put to an end. but i still think that spam really isnt that bad of an issue that some make it out to be. why isnt yahoo and hotmail or any of the other companies on the forefront of anti-spam legislation? in fact i seem to recall some of them spoke out against many of the past anti-spam initiatives that have been brought up in the past. because its really not that big of an issue. its fairly easily combatted with a little know how. there are many things in life that wont go away. that also must be combatted in this life. there are lots of anti spam software and such out there that really do work effectly. i think mail delivery for all spammers is down across the board. which goes to show that it is working effectly. its just that there are more and more spammers popping up daily because they think its easy money, just like this industry.

i guess i just dont like anyone whining enough to thier government about anything to create more laws. its like they cant take care of themselfs so they bitch to thier government to change it rather then getting off thier asses and doing something about themselfs. they would rather just sit back and let someone else fight thier battles for them. governments should govern not rule.

with all the joblessness in the IT sectors. you could look at it like spammers are creating jobs for jobless IT people(j/k)

Radik 11-22-2003 08:14 PM

I live in the same small city as the guys who did the spamming :)..


I'll go kick some ass for a small fee :)

Aussie Rebel 11-22-2003 10:36 PM

Spammers are just another form of a pedophile, anyone that wants to supply a under age child with porn is in the same class as a pedo.

Dugan 11-23-2003 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel
Spammers are just another form of a pedophile, anyone that wants to supply a under age child with porn is in the same class as a pedo.
:helpme

Why 11-23-2003 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel
Spammers are just another form of a pedophile, anyone that wants to supply a under age child with porn is in the same class as a pedo.
supplying children with porn is a LOT differant then looking at porn with children in it.

RawAlex 11-23-2003 01:29 AM

If the stuff I was getting was "opted in" to, spammers wouldn't have to use subject lines like:

get ch*ap vi*gr* - make your p*nis big'g'ger.

Do these fuckedheads really think I am going to buy something from them?

When I got up to 3000 pieces of spam a day, I changed all my mail accounts. Shitheads are making it impossible to use mail for anything productive anymore.

Alex

Sausage 11-23-2003 01:53 AM

Every problem forces a solution. Look at how freely available popup blockers are now.

Spam is the biggest problem on the net, and it will cause a backlash. Email is already unusable, which forces a solution .. and we are starting to see those cures already.

I have my report spam on macro, and it takes 5 seconds to send a report to the relevant place. But in the end when I get tired of doing it 3000+ times a week I will just get spamarrest or something else.

kmanrox 11-23-2003 01:57 AM

it's funny to see the ignorant come out and talk shit against spam hehe

Why 11-23-2003 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
it's funny to see the ignorant come out and talk shit against spam hehe
and they just dont get it either.

kmanrox 11-23-2003 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Why
and they just dont get it either.
they're just ign'ant

meanwhile, TCG, CE, SIC, ARS, SC, PB, and all the other big guys are spamming more than 100mil per day on THEIR OWN, let alone the spammers they allow to send to their programs =)


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