Three indicted for hacking Lowe's, Facing Up To 170 Years Each - GoFuckYourself.com

konduct · 11-22-2003, 08:25 AM

Three 20-year-old men each face 16 federal criminal charges stemming from their alleged conspiracy to hack into the Lowe's home improvement chain's national computer system via wireless and attempt to steal credit card information. Under the indictment ? which was handed up Wednesday in Charlotte ? EACH MAN COULD FACE UP TO 170 YEARS IN PRISON if convicted on all counts.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/69/33959.html

- Jesus Christ - · 11-22-2003, 08:26 AM

Free kevin!

NWO

its the "alleged conspiracy" part that worries me.
They never actually did anything

konduct · 11-22-2003, 08:28 AM

They didn't try to give Kevin 170 years.

Cyborg69 · 11-22-2003, 09:19 AM

Timmins and Botbyl, known online as "noweb4u" and "itszer0" respectively, are also part of the Michigan 2600 scene -- an informal collection of technology geeks that meet, blog, eat pizza and attend hacker conventions together, but generally balk at penetrating systems or otherwise committing felonies.

myjah · 11-22-2003, 09:36 AM

well that really sucks for them...i'm so confused though. they are facing 170 years in jail and we are letting out the guy that shot Pres. Reagan. Go figure.

goBigtime · 11-22-2003, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -

its the "alleged conspiracy" part that worries me.
They never actually did anything

Read the article.

In a rare wireless hacking prosecution, federal officials this week accused two Michigan men of repeatedly cracking the Lowe's chain of home improvement stores' nationwide network from a 1995 Pontiac Grand Prix parked outside a suburban Detroit store.

Lowe's network security team poured over log files and determined that the intruders had installed a virtual wiretap in a program that handles credit card transactions for all the Lowe's stores nationwide -- though the altered program had collected only six credit card numbers.

They returned at least six times over the following two weeks and used the network to access store networks at seven other Lowe's locations around the country, in Kansas, North Carolina, Kentucky, South Dakota, Florida, and two stores in California. The intruders deployed unspecified hacking software at some of the stores, in once case crashing the point of sale terminals at a Lowe's in Long Beach, California, according to the affidavit.

Fuck em.

brand0n · 11-22-2003, 09:47 AM

170 years for hacking into lowes? jesus, are we really that fucked up of a country that we let killers and rapeists walk out in 10 years, but if u steal a credit card from lowes u get 170?

goBigtime · 11-22-2003, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
170 years for hacking into lowes? jesus, are we really that fucked up of a country that we let killers and rapeists walk out in 10 years, but if u steal a credit card from lowes u get 170?

Yes.

And for good reason. I would guess that 50% of the people here have trojans and other hackerware/spyware surreptitiously installed on their machines. And that's giving a lot of credit to the GFY'ers. In the 'normal world' I would bet the % of infected computers is much higher.

konduct · 11-22-2003, 09:59 AM

Here is an animation of how fast the Code Red worm spread:

http://www.caida.org/analysis/securi...-small-log.mov

LOOK AT THAT THING RIP

More info on the spead of worms: http://www.caida.org/analysis/securi...xml#animations

eroswebmaster · 11-22-2003, 10:51 AM

While 170 years is crazy, the penalty does need to be something substantial imo.
15-20 years IMO.

This hacking crap, virus/worm crap just does not affect one person but truly affects us all...and that all as we continue this full court press towards globalization only gets bigger.

Imagine the amount of money that masterblaster worm cost businesses and individuals in America alone. Now multiply that across the world with every other user affected by it.

Not only did it cost those with infected systems, but it cost anyone and everyone doing business on the net, which then in turn *think trickle down* affected anyone and everyone those on the net do business with that aren't on the net.

These little punk ass kids need to learn that they just can't do something and end up costing peopl worldwide millions or even hundreds of millions of dollars without there being dire consequences.

GeneriMike · 11-22-2003, 10:57 AM

We've had people try to steal our database on sites in the past as we use our own merchant proccessing, but no luck.

Our admin watches our network like a hawk and all billing data is stored on an encrypted drive.

detoxed · 11-22-2003, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime

Yes.

And for good reason. I would guess that 50% of the people here have trojans and other hackerware/spyware surreptitiously installed on their machines. And that's giving a lot of credit to the GFY'ers. In the 'normal world' I would bet the % of infected computers is much higher.

Are you insane?

Gemini · 11-22-2003, 11:56 AM

Hang them.

Jon · 11-22-2003, 11:57 AM

They will get off with probation and get hired by the FBI or CIA within the next year.

konduct · 11-22-2003, 12:01 PM

What good are encrypted drives when your operating system is backdoored?

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1394538,00.asp

Jon · 11-22-2003, 12:02 PM

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