50 cheaters

I hate ideas likethis.
Sure it's a nice idea, but for the amount of honest people you fuck over it aint worth it imho.

I've only ever made clean galleries, and have partner acccoutns with every major tgp. That is, until my ISP put in a bad 'transparent' proxy, so all people on my ISP who submitted appeared to have one IP addy.

long and the stort of it, i got all / msot of my domains banned because of other fuckers.

then, if that gets spread aroundto every other tgp, what hope do i have of explaininng myself?

We understand peoples worries obviously. And we will be working 1000% towards solving the problems behind them. Believe me (without saying too much what we have planned in the future) if we can build a solid system, if anyone gets fucked over it would be for no longer than 24 hours.

In effect this system we actually be better for the honest guy who gets fucked over. As in the end (when we are able to reach the goal we aim to reach) they will have a chance to get off many tgp's cheat listsvery quickly if they are innocent.

actually there is another tgp cheaters DB here TGPCheaters.com :thumbsup I've been using it for a while!

These Nazis are still at it?

I think you should also list the reason why the person is on the list! Like if the chenged their gallery, pop-ups, ect. So we can decide for ourselves whether or not to ban them based on that information! :2 cents:

This has been thought up a million times, and it would never work. You'd get the TGP kiddies with an ego banning people for breaking an obscure rule, and now they are banned everywhere.

You'd also have TGPers entering the domains of those they don't care for just out of spite.

That one is a pain in the ass to cut and paste all those in there and take out the reasons.

As far as reasons go, most tgps that cheat do the usual pop-up/redirect to offshoreclicks dialer, etc... the same ass story told different ways. We'll make it so that galleries that don't do this aren't put up on the board, eg. the people who submit people to the list only put down the redirectors.

Great idea, I'll submit my blacklist to you guys. I have about 320 of them that I've personally caught redirecting on my sites.

:thumbsup This seems like a better idea. Or just use whois banning and you wont have to worry about it nearly as often.

Shit, anybody know what this guy did to get on the list?

http://bigboobs4all.com/

I've been listing a shitload of his free site submissions on a link list. Guess I better start checking some links.

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Nice site Odin88, you have always from these special project. I like that :)

Keep up the good work :thumbsup

40% of that list is bs

People who are well known/trusted occassionally abuse their power to ban/blacklist people as well. They can't help it.

It's been tried time and time again.

Something happens, it always gets personal & there goes the credibility of your entire blacklist.

I already see people on that list who's only reason they are there is because they have sites that sound like other peoples or have similar layouts of other people who are big big in the industry.


Here's a suggestion though -- on your end, make sure you tag EVERY SUBMISSION with the person who submitted it, so when that persons credibility comes under question, you can (and should) wipe out every one of his submitted IP's/Domains.

Exactly.

It'll never fly.

People abuse their power too much and start trying to bend what comes under the header of "cheater".


"He went to GFY and said my sites suck and convert at 1:2000.... blacklisted."



This concept presented in this thread is starting to remind me of the patriot act. :1orglaugh

that is a real good idea.. and if for some reason some one is listed and they shouldn't be.. just have them call up and make sure its not from a payphone or anything.. write down their phone number.. to make sure the same person isn't calling for 50+ domains.. and then unlist them.. then anyone using the list should see it's gone the next day and start listing the domain again..

his images are all 404's? that's probably why..

yep :thumbsup they just can't help doing it. Most are a bunch of KIDS. Instead of not listing a gallery for breaking rules (like not enough pics) black list it. That fucker has submitted 5 galleries and not enough pics.

Most TGP owner's are asswipes and don't even know it.
Main reason I quit submitting years ago

i wouldnt share my banned list with another site/s.

Regulation of submitters is a must, obviously. If we start getting too many complaints about domains put on our list by a submitter he will obviously cease to be a submitter.

I know the site does not look much now, but we floated it early to get your feedback on what to add. From the next update (sometime in the nect week or so) many things will be added to maintain the integrity of our list.

Also, ANYONE who believes they are on there for the wrong reason can contact me on ICQ 344709237.

very original :thumbsup

Really Shemp, whys that? If you did share your banned list, then cheaters would be scared to cheat your TGP for fear of being banned with all the other big TGPs.

You make a good point, but we have one of the best scripts going for finding cheaters, plus i have a database going back almost 6 years. Why should we share the results with other sites. Its not to my advantage to share ;)

That's just the index page. All his submitted galleries and sites appear to work fine.

Basically, competing TGPs gets a free ride for what you had to learn the hard way with. You're right, I can see how it would not be to the advantage of some TGPs to share their lists.

I can understand this sentiment, but also agree that it can also be positive for big TGP's to share. You will remember when the hun posted a thread here sharing a cheaters list, he had this to say:

"I figure by unveiling as many of their domains as possible in the end it will be worth their while not to submit to me anymore. So I invite all TGP-owners to add these to your blacklists... Only by making their domains worthless these people might try to make an honest living for a change... after all, every blacklisted domain is 15 bucks down the drain... There 366 domains in this first report... you do the math ;-)"

I understand why you would not be too keen to jump on these idea straight away, but hopefully if we can build a solid enough system you can atleast see the worth in it.

:)

And why the fuck is myhottiez.com on there? You better have a good fucking reason.

Going to put my ICQ up on the main page in a sec. Everyone, feel free to contact me on it if you have a problem (344709237).

Same here. Another fucking newbie prima donna who doesn't know his dick-hole from a fucking straw.

I don't do ICQ. If you do Yahoo or EMAIL, let me know. Click my sig for email info.

Email sent.

By the way, we are on our way to implementing many news things which will make things much more safer, and reliable. Check back soon.

:glugglug

If you havent already, take a look at tgpcheaters.com

Email replied to. References available and chimichangas in the freezer :D

It looks nice, but it is not exactly what we are working towards. We are working towards a quick, easily accessible, constantly updated list. The goal of our system will be to blacklist cheaters(and get out blacklist out to TGP owners) as soon and as quickly as they surface.

:glugglug

Also, I would like to invite people to check up on a couple new things we just added. You can now either view the list in a simple text format, or in a format which shows the date submitted and user submitted by (they all show by me and today currently as I had to re-enter them into the system). This is ofcourse just the first step.

We are also currently working on adding a reason for field, and looking to add a 'trusted domains' list. Basic aim of trusted domains is so that legitimate webmasters can get their names on this list, and never have to worry about being wrongly blacklisted in the future.

:)

lunchcutter.com

WTF??? :1orglaugh

Exactly right - if my domains are on your list and I ask you why - how can you even keep a straight face when you answer me "gee ... I dont know, I just cut and pasted it from a thread by the Hun - so it must be true" and this is supposed to be a resource site.

Most serious webmasters who post galleries get banned often - usually by their own referral codes that are left on galleries that get ripped of by people who submit your work only to redirect it after it gets listed - then your referral code gets banned.

Cheater lists never work, been done many times over - the suggestion posted previously about having a trusted webmaster pool sounds like a better idea.

6 years? Don't you think you can release some of those older banned domains? They are probably on their 4th owner by now. LOL

These co-op blacklists are a pain in the ass. Always too many honest guys on them.

I'll vouche for darksoft - no way is he a cheater.

Yes we understand that some honest guys make it on our list, that is why we are developing a trusted domains list, as well as working to get updated lists out to webmasters daily (i.e. through a mailing list) so that not only can they catch new cheats, but also remove honest guys.

It is ok, he has already been removed :)

I'm blacklisting the next sumbitch who writes descriptions like:
"fuck blonde is making on the toilet"

"couple making fuck on palace"

"for her cock is making good pleasure"

I also think having a pool of trusted webmasters is the way to go. I think it would really slow down the amount of crap cheat galleries. When a submit script is used, it checks the submission against the blacklist, but how hard would it be to turn it around so it would validate a known email address and accept the post. Sure, to the gallery submitter it would be a pain in the ass...but only in the beginning. If someone has contact me with an email that they will use to submit with as well as sample galleries, it keeps some "get rich quick" guy from filling the queue with galleries that reduce an honest guy's chance of being listed.

I love the idea...guilty until proven innocent :Graucho

all I know is my next partner application form is asking for sample descriptions to go along with sample URLs

A "good guy" pool would be much easier to deal with. A submitter gets listed by sites that post his pages, or where he has a partner account/preferred status - or buys spots - whatever.

If you were a submitter to us, and you did such things, you would get statistically more complaints than a legitimate submitter, and as such you would soon cease to be a submitter.

Thanks Steve :)

I agree

true

Please explain in realistic terms (i.e. not involving me holding a gun to their heads) you believe we could possible get away with this?

And thank YOU kind sir :)

good concept there, just went to the site now, the site will go far i think if you acutally knuckle down on this site and update all hte time, itll be alot of work, but it wll be worth it!
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