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|  11-21-2003, 04:36 PM | #1 | 
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				Gen Tommy Franks: "Martial Law Will Replace Constitution After Next Terror Attack!!"
			 Newsmax Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government. Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the men?s lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado. In the magazine?s December edition, the former commander of the military?s Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government. Discussing the hypothetical dangers posed to the U.S. in the wake of Sept. 11, Franks said that ?the worst thing that could happen? is if terrorists acquire and then use a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon that inflicts heavy casualties. If that happens, Franks said, ?... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we?ve seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.? Franks then offered ?in a practical sense? what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack. ?It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world ? it may be in the United States of America ? that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.? Franks didn?t speculate about how soon such an event might take place. Already, critics of the U.S. Patriot Act, rushed through Congress in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, have argued that the law aims to curtail civil liberties and sets a dangerous precedent. But Franks? scenario goes much further. He is the first high-ranking official to openly speculate that the Constitution could be scrapped in favor of a military form of government. The usually camera-shy Franks retired from U.S. Central Command, known in Pentagon lingo as CentCom, in August 2003, after serving nearly four decades in the Army. Franks earned three Purple Hearts for combat wounds and three Bronze Stars for valor. Known as a ?soldier?s general,? Franks made his mark as a top commander during the U.S.?s successful Operation Desert Storm, which liberated Kuwait in 1991. He was in charge of CentCom when Osama bin Laden?s al-Qaeda attacked the United States on Sept. 11. Franks said that within hours of the attacks, he was given orders to prepare to root out the Taliban in Afghanistan and to capture bin Laden. Franks offered his assessment on a number of topics to Cigar Aficionado, including: President Bush: ?As I look at President Bush, I think he will ultimately be judged as a man of extremely high character. A very thoughtful man, not having been appraised properly by those who would say he?s not very smart. I find the contrary. I think he?s very, very bright. And I suspect that he?ll be judged as a man who led this country through a crease in history effectively. Probably we?ll think of him in years to come as an American hero.? On the motivation for the Iraq war: Contrary to claims that top Pentagon brass opposed the invasion of Iraq, Franks said he wholeheartedly agreed with the president?s decision to invade Iraq and oust Saddam Hussein. ?I, for one, begin with intent. ... There is no question that Saddam Hussein had intent to do harm to the Western alliance and to the United States of America. That intent is confirmed in a great many of his speeches, his commentary, the words that have come out of the Iraqi regime over the last dozen or so years. So we have intent. ?If we know for sure ... that a regime has intent to do harm to this country, and if we have something beyond a reasonable doubt that this particular regime may have the wherewithal with which to execute the intent, what are our actions and orders as leaders in this country?? The Pentagon?s deck of cards: Asked how the Pentagon decided to put its most-wanted Iraqis on a set of playing cards, Franks explained its genesis. He recalled that when his staff identified the most notorious Iraqis the U.S. wanted to capture, ?it just turned out that the number happened to be about the same as a deck of cards. And so somebody said, ?Aha, this will be the ace of spades.?? Capturing Saddam: Franks said he was not surprised that Saddam has not been captured or killed. But he says he will eventually be found, perhaps sooner than Osama bin laden. ?The capture or killing of Saddam Hussein will be a near term thing. And I won?t say that?ll be within 19 or 43 days. ... I believe it is inevitable.? Franks ended his interview with a less-than-optimistic note. ?It?s not in the history of civilization for peace ever to reign. Never has in the history of man. ... I doubt that we?ll ever have a time when the world will actually be at peace.? Hmm - Lets Stage a Fake Terror attack. Blame it on the Muslims. Hey now we have complete Military Control over all the USA! Wow! That was simple. All we had to do was scare everyone with the word terrorist and kill a few thousand people to make it sink in there small brains! The New World Order is coming to a Street Near you! Have Fun!! http://www.evilgeniuscash.com http://www.monstercockmadness.com | 
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|  11-21-2003, 04:38 PM | #2 | 
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				 | Didn't he step down? Martial Law in US means I move to Canada. 
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|  11-21-2003, 04:45 PM | #3 | 
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				 | if the US were hit with a weapon of mass destruction most likely you  would be dead! no need to move. you got to get that brain checked, it ain't working too good. | 
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|  11-21-2003, 04:49 PM | #4 | 
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				 | Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...0/185048.shtml Republicans want less government.  | 
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|  11-21-2003, 04:58 PM | #5 | |
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 It isn't like the entire country would go belly up.. so .. speaking of brain checks.. ..... ... | |
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|  11-21-2003, 11:11 PM | #6 | 
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				 | I am not to happy with the FBI using the Patriot Act for non-terrorist case investigation.  I believe they used it in a bribery case in Nevada against a council man and a strip club wanting new zoning laws. That Act was for hunting terrorists not white collar crimes. We need to protect all our rights or they WIN!! period! V 
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|  11-21-2003, 11:22 PM | #7 | 
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				 | I've been reading for years reports of soldiers who do martial law practice runs on towns built specifically for the purpose of training to take over a panicked populace. Eventually the soldiers move on to a different post or get out/retire and they start talking. Our military is prepared to do it - let's just pray it never happens. | 
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|  11-21-2003, 11:28 PM | #8 | 
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|  11-21-2003, 11:39 PM | #9 | |
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|  11-21-2003, 11:39 PM | #10 | 
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				 | Sounds like some people are already in plans to  set up a coo. How else could Bush remain in power? 
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|  11-21-2003, 11:58 PM | #11 | 
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				 | Reading that kind of stuff makes me feel reeeeeeeallly uneasy. | 
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|  11-22-2003, 02:17 AM | #12 | |
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|  11-22-2003, 03:18 AM | #13 | 
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				 | That is just Gen. Tommy Frank's opinion, Doesn't mean it will happen. | 
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|  11-22-2003, 05:13 AM | #14 | 
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				 | That's scary shit, I feel it's just around the corner, the US republic is about to take its spot in history. I can see it happen. 
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|  11-22-2003, 05:40 AM | #15 | 
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				 | A quick note from Captain Obvious: If weapons of mass destruction were used against the US, with catastrophic consequences (e.g. nyc nuked, la gassed, etc) with many thousands or even millions of casualties, ofcourse martial law would replace common law... at least for a while. It would be essential to deal with the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible, for obvious reasons. That does, however, NOT mean it would be permanent. It would just last until the entire middle east would be turned into glass and everyone who knew someone who knew someone who knew a terrorist would be dead. I hate Bush e.a. as much as the next guy, but this isn't really anything new. In fact, it's what martial law was invented for. 
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|  11-22-2003, 05:53 AM | #16 | 
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				 | Just another anti-American thread from Massivecocks ... what's new?   
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|  11-22-2003, 06:42 AM | #17 | 
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				 | Look at the positive side... Martial Law means that all YOUNG and BRAINLESS GFY Sig Whores get drafted and GFY becomes a decent place for a change! Some will be shot for insubordination....we'll miss them dearly... ;-))) | 
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|  11-22-2003, 07:06 AM | #19 | |
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 That's what the Russians said shortly before the Revolution of 1917. We all know how that turned out. | |
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|  11-22-2003, 07:09 AM | #20 | |
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 ;-)) non us sig whores will starve due to the exchange rate: 1 Euro = $100,000 ;-))) | |
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|  11-22-2003, 07:10 AM | #21 | |
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 no more than 60,000,000 died.... ;-))) | |
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|  11-22-2003, 07:13 AM | #23 | |
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|  11-22-2003, 07:18 AM | #24 | |
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 so we are both right ;-) | |
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|  11-22-2003, 09:22 AM | #25 | |
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|  11-22-2003, 09:31 AM | #26 | 
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|  11-22-2003, 09:50 AM | #27 | 
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				 | Something is going to happen. Way too many people are stressing out over this. And I'm sure all the speculation is just driving ideas into some psychos head. All i know is i have been hella nervous ever since Bush was "Elected" into power. | 
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|  11-22-2003, 10:06 AM | #28 | 
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				 | I just don't see how that's going to happen without a fight, at least here in the States 
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|  11-22-2003, 10:13 AM | #29 | 
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				 | martial law can't be instituted within the United States when the civilian courts are in operation. 
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|  11-22-2003, 10:14 AM | #30 | |
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 that site is bullshit i for one watched the demonstrations live on TV the whole day you can't tell me most of the demonstrators who protested weren't asking to get booked. throwing paint at the officers or smoke granades is hardly non-violent btw the steel workers (among others) actually had police escort them to the amphi theater and were allowed to be near the hotel and hold a rally. 
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|  11-22-2003, 10:27 AM | #32 | 
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				 | this shit will never fuckin happen. 
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|  11-22-2003, 11:25 AM | #33 | |
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 I'll vote for him again just for that alone. | |
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|  11-22-2003, 11:50 AM | #34 | |
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|  11-22-2003, 11:58 AM | #36 | 
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				 | I see this happening soon... Bush and his friends will make another terror attack again and never leave the withe house. 
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				 | This guy has a career as a public speaker or whatever to look out for now. He has to say shocking things to gain interest in him. My feeling is that even terrorists know how important stability in the US is to the rest of the world or we'd have suicide attacks monthly or even weekly. | 
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|  11-22-2003, 07:46 PM | #39 | 
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				 | blah... thats why i have 120 acres in the middle of nowhere in northern nevada   
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|  11-22-2003, 08:03 PM | #40 | |
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 You know, if it gets worse, it'll be because these too right wing and extremist factions in the world keep fighting each other. Americans kick Bush out, elect a president who does something about the poverty in the States, the poverty rate is 14% I think, that's the highest in any "rich" countries in the world. BTW to avoid future messages about this: left does NOT equal communist, also a socialist isn't a communist. Many Americans make that mistake, half of the governments in Europe are left or socialists, it's like your Democrats. 
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|  11-22-2003, 08:09 PM | #41 | 
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				 | Martial Law has happened once before, here in Hawaii when the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor.  Did he mean that the Martial Law would go into effect until things got sorted out, or for good?  Interesting article. | 
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|  11-22-2003, 08:19 PM | #42 | |
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 pretty much, yeh 
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|  11-22-2003, 08:49 PM | #43 | |
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 If war breaks out in north america the best place to be is going to be the country with the most guns. America rocks, i'm ashamed to be Canadian some days. Myself and my family thank the service men and women to went over and removed that asshole from power. Go navy.. | |
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|  11-22-2003, 08:55 PM | #44 | 
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				 | If Howard Dean or Hillary gets elected, are the right wingers still going to support turning the U.S. into a dictatorship, or does this only apply if there is a Republican in charge?   | 
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|  11-22-2003, 09:17 PM | #46 | 
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				 | interesting read. | 
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|  11-22-2003, 09:42 PM | #47 | |
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 What do these Patriot Act supporters think of the idea of Bill and Hillary having access to all that extra power? Many people seem incapable of thinking things through. They just turn on the radio and believe whatever they are told. | |
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