whats ur biggest TGP hate?

[TeenP]

What is the main thing that really pisses you off with TGPs?

[LadyMischief]

STUPID RULES and nazi reviewers

You know what I mean the "You must do a little dance, shake your left leg five times, sing a song, then pat your head while rubbing your stomach" to submit here type tgps

[Argoz]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
STUPID RULES and nazi reviewers

You know what I mean the "You must do a little dance, shake your left leg five times, sing a song, then pat your head while rubbing your stomach" to submit here type tgps

[Reak]

rules of submitting for just 5 gallery hits

[salo18]

Dialers on the submit page and shit (TRUETGP.COM)

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by Reak
rules of submitting for just 5 gallery hits

Yeah that sucks too.

[$5 submissions]

I wish there was some sort of unified standard for TGPs so the rules issues disappear altogether.

[TeenP]

Im going to reverse the question and ask if you created a tgp how would u like it to work/what features would you liek to see?

[hjnet]

Recips that look more or less like a FPA
TGP owners that sell their submitters emails to spammers

[pantymaniac]

heheh this is so fucking funny

Hi PantyMan,

I am sorry, but your gallery:
http://www.pantyforum.com/adult10/clean.htm submitted on Nov 5 was declined for the following reason(s):

Your gallery did not load



Troubles getting listed??
Did you know you can buy a guaranteed gallery listing at Worldsex.com!
We also offer various other advertising possibilities like banner promotion, textlinks and webmaster page promotion at Worldsex.
For more info you can go here:

blabla bla


and my gallery load very fast more than 9 monht

[Dirty F]

More tgps send less hits than they have rules.

[salo18]

Originally posted by pantymaniac
heheh this is so fucking funny

Hi PantyMan,

I am sorry, but your gallery:
http://www.pantyforum.com/adult10/clean.htm submitted on Nov 5 was declined for the following reason(s):

Your gallery did not load



Troubles getting listed??
Did you know you can buy a guaranteed gallery listing at Worldsex.com!
We also offer various other advertising possibilities like banner promotion, textlinks and webmaster page promotion at Worldsex.
For more info you can go here:

blabla bla


and my gallery load very fast more than 9 monht

Your gallery took more then 1 min to load for me.

[BlackCrayon]

keeping track of all the different rules and making different sized preview thumbs is a pain in the ass.

[HowlingWulf]

Getting banned for unknown or unfair reason.

[Tofu]

Originally posted by TeenP
What is the main thing that really pisses you off with TGPs?

must submit a 88x88 thumb, or a 120x90 thumb thats no larger than 5k, but it must be high quality. im sick of having like 10 different thumbs to create just to submit. i also hate nazzi reviewers....

[Weppel]

Originally posted by pantymaniac
heheh this is so fucking funny

Hi PantyMan,

I am sorry, but your gallery:
http://www.pantyforum.com/adult10/clean.htm submitted on Nov 5 was declined for the following reason(s):

Your gallery did not load



Troubles getting listed??
Did you know you can buy a guaranteed gallery listing at Worldsex.com!
We also offer various other advertising possibilities like banner promotion, textlinks and webmaster page promotion at Worldsex.
For more info you can go here:

blabla bla


and my gallery load very fast more than 9 monht

Didnt load at all here...

[imJason]

yah well, I started my site listing hundreds of galleries a day for free,

and still do, people thank me all the time for making them sales and listings them daily,

but you know what some gallery makes are cool and some are winy bitchs, and some are cheaters

I had to pay 800$ and custome work for a script, I pay a reveiwer, full time, just so I can continue to take public submitions and review everyone by the next day, which costs me2000$cdn a month, granted she is a assitant and does other work but the majority is reviewing,

so the point is I spend money to list people for free,
and then about 30% of the submitions are cheaters,

so I spend money to be fucked over,

the pooint is I nead gallery makers and they nead me,

and the ones who can play ball with me get listed daily and on top of that the best get partners accoutn and get listed 3 times a day,

but the winny bitchs, and stupid idiots and cheaters, can kiss my ass,

these cheaters come and talk to me on icq to feel me out and get un banned and try to figure out how I catch them,

so im sorry when you get banned, you have to jump through hoops, I have to protect my listings, and my site from crap,

I got cheaters trying to suck up to me just so they can get over on me a second time, and then I get hit botted and spamed and hacker attacked, when they get fuctrated, by me standing up to them,

so the rules are mine and for my site, so if you follow them you get listed, its simple,

thanks,

[HarlotCash Dyker]

My gripe is the amount of pics most ask for -

I would sooner see 10 pics max on a gallery -

I am certain this amount would improve ctr's by a huge % (When I did this with my hosted galleries, ctr's improved dramatically)

[MetaMan]

my programmers developing a system that will eliminate all need for submissions or category scripts. but i will only give it to the ppl i work worth because it will basically have no need for submissions and will probly ruin peoples extra income. i hate tgp submitters to many are idiots and dont understand you have to have something original or out there. soon i dont think any public submissions will be left.

[tranza]

I fucking hate the different descriptions lenghts: 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 .... all the way up to 65!!!

[Furious_Female]

I hate that TGPs give away everything that could make us all 10x more money

[the Shemp]

Originally posted by Furious_Female
I hate that TGPs give away everything that could make us all 10x more money

you hate that you're not getting a part of it.

[Oracle Porn]

small tgps that ask more than large tgps...
wtf im getting listed on 300K+ tgps and not on a 50k tgp...

[Martin]

I fuckin HATE cheaters.. Low life scum bags..

[Spunky]

Heres an Idea...Why dont you people start one for yourself and have to deal with the bullshit of running some.If it isn't the fucking cheaters its fucking Acacia sticking another hand in your pocket...

[ShadowHawk]

I so desperately want to repond by saying that you're all mad at the wrong people, but I don't know how to explain it without writing a book worth of shit. Basically, TGPs have all those rules in place to try and limit cheaters and make their lives easier. Too bad they don't know the truth. I have a couple of TGP sites and get anywhere from 400 to 1200 submissions a day at each of them. On average, over 80% of the submissions come from 3-4 people...and all of those will redirect first time uniques away from the galleries. Unfornately, most TGP owners have no way of detecting these "cheaters".

The real problem with these guys is that they are submitting really nice galleries with lots of high quality pics. Those nice galleries are hard for the average submitter to compete with. Or...some cheaters just go out and find nice galleries that were created by talented webmasters and copy them. They submit the copy and then, once it's listed on a TGP, will start to redirect traffic from that gallery. (I mean, how many times have you seen webmasters complain that they've found their stuff copied? And you were wondering why you're sponsor code...or your work...has been blacklisted!!!)

Anyone figured out why all the hoops yet? It looks to me like there are just a few outfits out there that are submitting tons of quality content and they can afford to do it because they're redirecting traffic, etc.

If anyone has any suggestions or questions, I'd really like to hear them. Would really like to know how to block out these big guys and give my links space to the average webmaster who has worked his butt off to make a $.

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by TeenP
What is the main thing that really pisses you off with TGPs?

Da' money shots.

[Furious_Female]

Originally posted by the Shemp


you hate that you're not getting a part of it.

I don't need a part of it

[the Shemp]

Originally posted by Furious_Female


I don't need a part of it

Then why are you so furious?

[xxxoutsourcing]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
STUPID RULES and nazi reviewers

You know what I mean the "You must do a little dance, shake your left leg five times, sing a song, then pat your head while rubbing your stomach" to submit here type tgps

Yea and after that the fucker sends you 5 hits....pffff

[Furious_Female]

Originally posted by the Shemp


Then why are you so furious?

I made this handle when I was miffed one day and stuck with it. I am usually infuriated about one thing or another though!

[$5 submissions]

Very informative post, ShadowHawk. Good points raised.

My question is, aren't most TGPs using scripts to manage their listings? Don't these scripts check the listings to see if they have changed?

Originally posted by ShadowHawk
I so desperately want to repond by saying that you're all mad at the wrong people, but I don't know how to explain it without writing a book worth of shit. Basically, TGPs have all those rules in place to try and limit cheaters and make their lives easier. Too bad they don't know the truth. I have a couple of TGP sites and get anywhere from 400 to 1200 submissions a day at each of them. On average, over 80% of the submissions come from 3-4 people...and all of those will redirect first time uniques away from the galleries. Unfornately, most TGP owners have no way of detecting these "cheaters".

The real problem with these guys is that they are submitting really nice galleries with lots of high quality pics. Those nice galleries are hard for the average submitter to compete with. Or...some cheaters just go out and find nice galleries that were created by talented webmasters and copy them. They submit the copy and then, once it's listed on a TGP, will start to redirect traffic from that gallery. (I mean, how many times have you seen webmasters complain that they've found their stuff copied? And you were wondering why you're sponsor code...or your work...has been blacklisted!!!)

Anyone figured out why all the hoops yet? It looks to me like there are just a few outfits out there that are submitting tons of quality content and they can afford to do it because they're redirecting traffic, etc.

If anyone has any suggestions or questions, I'd really like to hear them. Would really like to know how to block out these big guys and give my links space to the average webmaster who has worked his butt off to make a $.

[Turf]

I hate that so very few webmasters take the time to answer emails when it comes to their tgp.. Yes, i understand that there probably are tons of emails every day, but mine is the important one damnit!!

but other then that.. i think that the cheaters will keep pushing in the tgp business untill everyone and their mother is using trusted submissions only.. hate the fact that it has to be trusted submissions only, but believe thats the way we are heading.

*plug*
if you want a trusted submitter, pick me!
*/plug*

[the Shemp]

Originally posted by Furious_Female


I made this handle when I was miffed one day and stuck with it. I am usually infuriated about one thing or another though!

I know you hate TGPs, but you would be less furious if you applied for preferred submit status with us. I mean half the guys on here that trash TGPs still submit to them, they just keep it quiet. Same as TGP2, a lot of those guys still submit regular TGP galleries too.

[Jarmusch]

Originally posted by tranza
I fucking hate the different descriptions lenghts: 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 .... all the way up to 65!!!

That's a pain! And some tgp's don't even tell the character limit, so it's all down to guessing, getting a description error and having to go back to correct it.

[- Jesus Christ -]

The traffic.

[QualityMpegs]

Originally posted by Jarmusch


That's a pain! And some tgp's don't even tell the character limit, so it's all down to guessing, getting a description error and having to go back to correct it.

A-fucking-men

[Lee]

Hmm I have so many but I still do submit. My biggest gripe is a follow on from Howling Wulf's about getting banned for no bloody reason except that the common theme revolves around them being an AGP site which sends you about 5 hits

I experienced it today with some piddly TGP so I look it up in whois (sometimes its someone you know whose script has had a brainfart) and I find that the domain was registered 3 weeks ago! I find it infuriating that I can submit to almost all of the biggers sites & have partner accounts with most of them for a couple of years and then get some prick with a fortnight old TGP ban me for fuck knows what.

I think what I am going to do is ban all their URL's from my TGP's. Sucks for a submitter who pairs one of my sites with theirs but fuck 'em.

Oh and some banned words piss me right off too. Tonight I encountered "avi" as a banned word. A subsequent check found the word "having" in my gallery. And for those who ban "pet", dont you realise thats fucks up "petite"?

[some_idiot]

Thumbnail previews!

Fuck come on, I've already done my part making your content!
You can have 1 size, you want it different, you make it.

88x88 , 100x100 , 90x120 , 120 x 90 ...make up your god damn
minds.

[Splash]

Thanks for the great thread on *rules* on submitting to a TGP. It just reminded me that I needed to update Rule 1. Kudos for the suggestions., but Rule 1 should take care of most of it.

Take a look:

Submit Page

[The Heron]

Originally posted by TeenP
What is the main thing that really pisses you off with TGPs?

Not enough FREE PORN!! I mean seriously the surfers need 10,000 more links to free porn for sure.

[joechip]

Originally posted by Lee


Oh and some banned words piss me right off too. Tonight I encountered "avi" as a banned word. A subsequent check found the word "having" in my gallery. And for those who ban "pet", dont you realise thats fucks up "petite"?

ah-fucking-men, brother!
That's got to be one of my #1 pet peeves in submitting.

[Smokey The Bear]

Originally posted by ShadowHawk
I On average, over 80% of the submissions come from 3-4 people...and all of those will redirect first time uniques away from the galleries. Unfornately, most TGP owners have no way of detecting these "cheaters".

If anyone has any suggestions or questions, I'd really like to hear them. Would really like to know how to block out these big guys and give my links space to the average webmaster who has worked his butt off to make a $.

Start using whois on your script to ban by dns and email info on whois. You will cut down the reviews and no more blacklisting endless domains. They dont get by the script.

Cut you tgp from 1200 submits a day to 200 with whois checking

blacklist xvaluehost , hihost4all and nastysexy in any whois info

[Steve]

Originally posted by Turf
I hate that so very few webmasters take the time to answer emails when it comes to their tgp.. Yes, i understand that there probably are tons of emails every day, but mine is the important one damnit!!

With all the spam I get each day, it is REALLY hard not to miss an e-mail, here and there. Or almost as bad, save that e-mail into the wrong folder - hopefully I notice before it becomes a waste.

I hate to be in the middle of deleting e-mails, and BOOM, more fucking e-mails came in - now I have to check the damn delete folder to make sure I didn't just trash a good one.

[Steve]

Originally posted by The Heron
Not enough FREE PORN!! I mean seriously the surfers need 10,000 more links to free porn for sure.

*note to self: open more TGPs... e-mail URLs to The Heron...*

[eRock]

I wou;ldn't say I "HATE" it, but it REALLY annoys me when TGPs ask for some amazing description only to have to fill in the submit form all over again cuz they never say what the description length should be. Not so bad for one or two, but when ya get a bunch it's a real pain....

[xanx]

The ego's of some of the people who run them..

[Shoplifter]

Now that we spend thousands a month advertising with Parney and other sources we can vote with our dollars against those who have gone too far in the past.

In general tho most are quite reasonable... I run three tgp's and the amount of abuse received is phenominal. It's the damn nazi's...

[CDSmith]

Knowing you have submitted an A class gallery that is better than most on the main page, and having some snot-nosed reviewer tell you you're declined for some boneheaded reason that doesn't exist.





Most of you don't understand the nature of what a tgp does though. TGP's don't GIVE away everything like some think..... TGP's are a vehicle for advertising only. The submitters make galleries in order to advertise their sponsors, the TGP's list those galleries in order to expose their surfers to the content. Nothing more, nothing less. It is about advertising, period.

If there was a better way to get 100k+ uniques per day to a gallery then I'm sure submitters would try that too. Do any of you have another way to get 100k per day to a gallery? No? Then shaddaaap ayou face.

[eRock]

Yeah...I DO hate stupid decline reasons. I'm not gonna name names, but one TGP in particular that gives the dumbest declines I've ever heard! I've replied several times asking what gives & the owner always says..."I don't know what the revier was thinking..."

Jealous reviewers maybe...