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11-19-2003, 05:51 PM

A friend of mine mentioned this (a very respected GFy member and site owner,)
he gave him automatic exit traffic for a week he gets 25,000 uniques a day
his stats showed 4 uniques
I hate dishonest webmasters like that so I feel the need to expose, im sure many shave but not with such audacity thats just stupid!!!!!!!!
He doesnt want me mentioning his site or company cause he doesnt like the drama, but to mens niche I say GET A GRIP!
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11-19-2003, 05:53 PM

Until you can post proof, including a name so we know you're not fulla shit, I'm pretty well going to ignore you. I've worked for Darren for quite some time, and he's not one to bullshit his affiliates.

Start talking or shut the fuck up.

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11-19-2003, 05:53 PM

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11-19-2003, 05:54 PM

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11-19-2003, 05:54 PM

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11-19-2003, 05:55 PM

I've always gotten my Mensniche wires, conversions looked good all the time. Highly doubt they play any funky games...

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11-19-2003, 05:55 PM

popcorn ... and... see sign for non shaving sponsor
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11-19-2003, 05:56 PM

u dum twat!
u dont start stupid ass shaving threads when u dont have proof and r just a dum ass imigrant! shut your hole before i come to wherever u are and get my pet elephant to cum in your mouth.

just because u or ur friend have no hits to their name and cant make money in this industry doesnt mean u come on here whining about people shaving,

now put up or shut up.

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11-19-2003, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by MetaMan
u dum twat!
u dont start stupid ass shaving threads when u dont have proof and r just a dum ass imigrant! shut your hole before i come to wherever u are and get my pet elephant to cum in your mouth.

just because u or ur friend have no hits to their name and cant make money in this industry doesnt mean u come on here whining about people shaving,

now put up or shut up.

HOE!

YOu really shouldn't hold back like that, MM. It's just not good for you.

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11-19-2003, 05:58 PM

I have no proof or anything, but when I joined mensniche a friend of mine also warned me that they would shave me. I haven't really pushed them any big numbers yet, but it does worry me.
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11-19-2003, 06:00 PM

ask sales reps,

the only people who ever complain are the people with absolutley no hits. and couldnt make a dime if it jumped in thei pocket.
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11-19-2003, 06:00 PM

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11-19-2003, 06:02 PM

Of course they shave ... Darren is a shady piece of shit.

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11-19-2003, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by AvsTgp
A friend of mine mentioned this (a very respected GFy member and site owner,)
he gave him automatic exit traffic for a week he gets 25,000 uniques a day
his stats showed 4 uniques
I hate dishonest webmasters like that so I feel the need to expose, im sure many shave but not with such audacity thats just stupid!!!!!!!!
He doesnt want me mentioning his site or company cause he doesnt like the drama, but to mens niche I say GET A GRIP!

waiting to see some proof

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11-19-2003, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Odin88
I have no proof or anything, but when I joined mensniche a friend of mine also warned me that they would shave me. I haven't really pushed them any big numbers yet, but it does worry me.

... first of all, you don't have any friends and secondly those 10 clicks you sent is "pushing them big" in your language.

... darren is a good guy, all the others ... eat my skidmarked shorts.
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11-19-2003, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by [Brian]
Of course they shave ... Darren is a shady piece of shit.

... now who the fuck is that ??
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11-19-2003, 06:05 PM

... first of all, you don't have any friends and secondly those 10 clicks you sent is "pushing them big" in your language.

I was sending him a descent (couple of hundred) targetted SE hits daily until this latest google update killed me. Hopefully I will be back.

And yes, I have friends - real ones too! Not just fat webmasters who talk about gay stuff online. Have fun at internext you poof.
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11-19-2003, 06:07 PM

... you don't have any friends and (as written above) you haven't got any traffic either. so what's your point again ??
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11-19-2003, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Odin88

I was sending him a descent (couple of hundred) targetted SE hits daily until this latest google update killed me. Hopefully I will be back.

And yes, I have friends - real ones too! Not just fat webmasters who talk about gay stuff online. Have fun at internext you poof.

Sorry your opinion doesn't carry much weight around here unless you have 12,000 posts next to your nickname.

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11-19-2003, 06:07 PM

Shaving 25k hits to only 4 is ridiculous, there's probably something wrong with the linking code

However i've seen some pretty funky stuff in my stats for the past month, ups and downs i had never seen the other 2 months before (not that it's a benchmark or anything) but the traffic i've been sending is quite steady and i have no idea why sales dropped about 30-40% since mid october.

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11-19-2003, 06:20 PM

... you don't have any friends and (as written above) you haven't got any traffic either. so what's your point again ??

I will be the first tpo admit that my SE network isn't making me rich, but it is doing ok for me. I also mail (not really large scale) which keeps my pockets pretty well lined.

Anyways, Darren does seem like a good bloke, but it is true that most sponsors shave. My friend was sure they shaved pretty big time, and to hear a second complaint obviously doesn't fill me with confidence. However, so long as they convert at a reasonable ratio for me I will keep pushing them, if notice I am getting fucked over I will stop.

Oh and about the friends bit, I am not going to really bother arguing. You are probablly some fat geek with two drinking buddies. So GFY wanker.
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11-19-2003, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by Dildozer
Shaving 25k hits to only 4 is ridiculous, there's probably something wrong with the linking code

However i've seen some pretty funky stuff in my stats for the past month, ups and downs i had never seen the other 2 months before (not that it's a benchmark or anything) but the traffic i've been sending is quite steady and i have no idea why sales dropped about 30-40% since mid october.

ya.. when i was sending traffic every about 2 days the stats would go buggy.. i think it's the mpa2 software.. every 2 - 3 days join form would stop loading and clicks would stop logging
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11-19-2003, 06:22 PM

Odin are you on my ICQ already? if not can you add me to your list i got a ? to ask you

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11-19-2003, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by Odin88
Anyways, Darren does seem like a good bloke, but it is true that most sponsors shave.

A bold statement for a 15 year old.

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11-19-2003, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Madball
A bold statement for a 15 year old.

that's just funnyyyyyyyyy

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11-19-2003, 06:26 PM

A bold statement for a 15 year old.

Am 19. Are you jealous or something old man?
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11-19-2003, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by Madball
A bold statement for a 15 year old.

that was fuckin weak

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11-19-2003, 06:28 PM

like Dildozer said, 4 hits from 25k isn't shaving that's fucking up the linking code..

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11-19-2003, 06:29 PM

Umm...I have no idea if Darren shaves or not, but the concept of someone shaving 25k uniques to 4 is stupid.

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11-19-2003, 06:30 PM

I'm still waiting to see if the simpleton really has a friend who says Darren shaves, or if he's just out to stir up some shit tonight. Come on, let's see who this person is who says Darren shaves.

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11-19-2003, 06:31 PM

Hey how are the rebills for you (PSP and VP)?
They were pretty sweet but after the 4th, nothing at all

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11-19-2003, 06:34 PM

I'm still waiting to see if the simpleton really has a friend who says Darren shaves, or if he's just out to stir up some shit tonight. Come on, let's see who this person is who says Darren shaves.

His name is Administrator on the forum. I sent him an ICQ but he appears to be away at the moment.

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11-19-2003, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Odin88

His name is Administrator on the forum. I sent him an ICQ but he appears to be away at the moment.

The simpleton or the guy who says Darren shaves?

And if it's the guy who says that Darren shaves...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! "Respected" my ass.

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11-19-2003, 06:39 PM

The simpleton or the guy who says Darren shaves?

And if it's the guy who says that Darren shaves...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! "Respected" my ass.

Shut up you fucking tool. The guy is here for fun, and really posts just to piss you wankers off. On a personal level though, he is a good guy, and someone who I respect.
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11-19-2003, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by Odin88

Shut up you fucking tool. The guy is here for fun, and really posts just to piss you wankers off. On a personal level though, he is a good guy, and someone who I respect.

Oh goody, I'm a tool. Right on.

Coming from you, I don't take that as an insult. I just find it funny. I have yet to see anything the Administrator had to say that worth a damn, personally. I'm glad that you think he's respectable, but honestly, on a personal level, I respect Darren a great deal, which is why I continue to work for him. I doubt that Darren would be stupid enough to shave 25,000 down to 4. That's just stupid, and Darren is a very intelligent guy.

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11-19-2003, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by Tala
I'm still waiting to see if the simpleton really has a friend who says Darren shaves, or if he's just out to stir up some shit tonight. Come on, let's see who this person is who says Darren shaves.

he don't shave.. im paranoid as it is.. and his is 1 of the many many programs where my ratio didn't jump over the place and it was alwayse real low..
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11-19-2003, 06:54 PM

A friend of mine mentioned this (a very respected GFy member and site owner,)

show me a respected gfy member?
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11-19-2003, 07:41 PM

fact is they shave like many others

all the rest of you big post count n0bheads wouldnt know, your too busy posting insted of working
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11-19-2003, 07:45 PM

BULLSHIT. Darren is an upstanding guy. I can't stand it when people try to discredit with NO proof. UGH!!!

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11-19-2003, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by Administrator
fact is they shave like many others

all the rest of you big post count n0bheads wouldnt know, your too busy posting insted of working

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11-19-2003, 07:48 PM

Again, until some unrefutable proof is shown, this thread is a waste of bandwidth.

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11-19-2003, 07:50 PM

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11-19-2003, 08:00 PM

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11-19-2003, 08:05 PM

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sure

Contact sexed, he's in to juveniles.
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11-19-2003, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by swedguy
Contact sexed, he's in to juveniles.

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11-20-2003, 04:21 AM

umm what a total bullshit thread.

MensNiche doesn't and never will shave it is simply pointless.

Some points, MensNiche is setup to work for webmsaters and at every price point we make a profit as does yourself of course.

We give signups on ALL EXITS, we track via IP and COOKIES, we give credit on ALL PILL REBILLS the only sponsor to actually offer this, we give credit on ALL UPSALES... Why do we do this?

If we wanted to shave we wouldnt do any of the above, fuck we would probably also put a phone number on our site like other sites to nick affiliate sales... or set cookies to 2 hours or something so u dont even get sales from the email newsletters we send on ur behalf... We could also count 2nd page uniques etc all the little tricks other companies use....

Because we actually know as a webmaster when u send us a surfer that surfer is yours.

I do know however what this thread is refering to, the actual person was using the wrong linking code, sending to volumepills.com/affiliatecodeblabla when in fact all links actually route through mensniche.com/affiliatecodeblabla this is why the hits are obviously not tracked properly.

Now if this person wishes to contact me the problem can be of course sorted out..

Dildozer me and u go back for some months mate and u have made quite a bit of $$ off volumepills so lets be realistic here if the numbers for urself have gone down lets take a look at some other reasons apart form the fact darren as got the shave o matic on...

- increased competition.
- same adverts losing appeal.
- the new patches going around..

Loads of things... I am still waiting an email from u pointing out some things eg traffic sources etc and to give u more advice to help you out to get back to the incredible ratios u was experiencing.

There are threads about every sponsor out there apparently shaving most time its BS and in this occasion it certainly is.

ANYONE that as issues with MensNiche or myself simply ICQ me 46335817 and I will personally take as long as it takes to make u happy as I DO WITH ALL MY AFFILIATES..

Brian why the fuck am I a shady fucker and who the fuck are u?

For those that know me tks for pointing out this thread and for the support as well, its well placed.

Dazza

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11-20-2003, 06:07 AM

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umm what a total bullshit thread.

exactly...nice reply ;)

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11-20-2003, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by Dildozer
Shaving 25k hits to only 4 is ridiculous, there's probably something wrong with the linking code

That's what I was thinking.....

have you tryed contacting your sponsor/sale rep and checking your links again???

I'm just a newbie.
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11-20-2003, 06:41 AM

I never get involved in pissing matches but for Darren I will.

The guy has treated me like a king and I'm sure I send NOTHING compared his larger affilliates. I've never met a more approchable sponsor, and one more willing to work for ME.

Shaving? Doubtful. My conversions are absolutely wonderful.

So I'll gladly stand up and defend him.

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11-20-2003, 07:15 AM

JUST TO FINISH OFF THE THREAD WITH THE FACTS AND TRUTH
DARREN
<I do know however what this thread is refering to, the actual person was using the wrong linking code, sending to volumepills.com/affiliatecodeblabla when in fact all links actually route through mensniche.com/affiliatecodeblabla this is why the hits are obviously not tracked properly>

You know exactly the story and I was told the TRUE version, when the link wasnt working he got 0 uniques, so its after you fixed the link and told him exactly to put it in the way you said it and sent it then it started tracking hence the 4 uniques as opposed to 0 you upped his commission to 75% supposedly to set things straight but at 75% you greedy sponsor didnt want to pay so out came the serious shaver, now if you really wanted to set things straight you should have given him CASH for the traffic he sent, but no you cant make money at 75% so you figured make it look like nothing even happened so far as far as traffic so you dont have worry about him complaining about conversions cause the traffic wasnt there yet, but you know what Darren that sponsor has a bad taste and your name will never be the same!
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