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TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 07:53 PM

Who leads the Hackers? Is there a leader or...?

mikeeee · 11-16-2003, 07:55 PM

Yes yes, Jesse, at http://astalavista.com/

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by mikeeee
Yes yes, Jesse, at http://astalavista.com/

So what do we know about Jesse? Is he on the run, living in a van on wifi?

BeHeadR · 11-16-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by mikeeee
Yes yes, Jesse, at http://astalavista.com/

11-16-2003, 07:58 PM

I used to be a hacker, no leader, only hacked for fun

icedemon · 11-16-2003, 07:59 PM

Are you talking about hackers or crackers. Hackers just play around on their computer all day. Crackers are the ones that go around causing trouble.

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by icedemon
Are you talking about hackers or crackers. Hackers just play around on their computer all day. Crackers are the ones that go around causing trouble.

I always thought that crackers were the like software pirates, cracking copy protection schemes... and I thought hackers were like the network troublemakers... like in the movie.

beemk · 11-16-2003, 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

I always thought that crackers were the like software pirates, cracking copy protection schemes... and I thought hackers were like the network troublemakers... like in the movie.

me too. the kids that play around all day are script kiddies.

silver · 11-16-2003, 08:03 PM

Cult Of The Dead Cow

icedemon · 11-16-2003, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

I always thought that crackers were the like software pirates, cracking copy protection schemes... and I thought hackers were like the network troublemakers... like in the movie.

Hackers usually are really into computers and try to make something work that hasn't already been done or make something work better. Go into a hacker newsgroup and ask how to crack something. I've seen people get flamed to no end for that.

http://www.plethora.net/~seebs/faqs/hacker.html

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by silver
Cult Of The Dead Cow

What's that?

hudson · 11-16-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
Who leads the Hackers? Is there a leader or...?

yo dude, don't worry about the hackers, worry about the guys with tin foil as hats hanging around outside your door....

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by icedemon
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Hackers usually are really into computers and try to make something work that hasn't already been done or make something work better.

Ok, I'm not talking about the nice hackers that do opensource freeware stuff... I'm talking about the dudes that fuck with governments and big corporations.

humanaut · 11-16-2003, 08:07 PM

There are a few guys in the world (about 50) who between them always have access to 0day exploits for the latest services and operating systems.. they are very powerful.. but most of them never do anything nasty

Mostly greyhats and work for companies like Iss Xforce Foundstone Eeye etc during the day

There is an emerging hacker scene in asia.. they used to be just script kiddies but now some of the biggest 0day exploits come out of .cn

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by hudson

yo dude, don't worry about the hackers, worry about the guys with tin foil as hats hanging around outside your door....

Yeah...

!

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by humanaut
There are a few guys in the world (about 50) who between them always have access to 0day exploits for the latest services and operating systems.. they are very powerful.. but most of them never do anything nasty

Mostly greyhats and work for companies like Iss Xforce Foundstone Eeye etc during the day

There is an emerging hacker scene in asia.. they used to be just script kiddies but now some of the biggest 0day exploits come out of .cn

See now this guy has juicy details!

silver · 11-16-2003, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

What's that?

You dont remember the cDc , Cult of the dead cow was a group of hackers that created Back Oriface , they were always big at the DefCon conventions, bunch of crazy computer guru`s

hudson · 11-16-2003, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

Yeah... !

danger lurking around every corner!

partytime · 11-16-2003, 08:10 PM

Hackers are not organized.

^R3K^ · 11-16-2003, 08:11 PM

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 08:11 PM

0dayexploit -- sounds like a cool new GFY character!

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by silver

You dont remember the cDc , Cult of the dead cow was a group of hackers that created Back Oriface , they were always big at the DefCon conventions, bunch of crazy computer guru`s

Yeah I remember Back Oriface -- we installed that shit on our supervisor's PC... hehe... she freaked out when we started playing sounds on her machine

hudson · 11-16-2003, 08:13 PM

well, the old unix guys like from bell labs called themselves hackers

humanaut · 11-16-2003, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by silver

You dont remember the cDc , Cult of the dead cow was a group of hackers that created Back Oriface , they were always big at the DefCon conventions, bunch of crazy computer guru`s

Heh CDC are oldschool

Back orifice/Bo2k started the whole win32 trojankiddy scene so you can thank them for that..

I think at one Defcon, CDC guys threw raw meat at audience members during their presentation? Can't recalll

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by partytime
Hackers are not organized.

Maybe Bin Laden is leading them

Smokey The Bear · 11-16-2003, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
Who leads the Hackers? Is there a leader or...?

Another bland term that can fit almost anything.

There are good hackers bad hackers curious hackers Bored hackers hobby hackers. Stupid hackers, Vendetta hackers.

I hacked my microwave the other day and found a secret message that the programmer coded into the display.

Once ****** my local atm and found that they run a micrcrap os. How pathetic.

Not long ago i ****** mitnicks' new company server just to see what he had. ( guess he aint so clever after being locked up for so long )

If your not being specific then i guess it could mean . "anything your not normally supposed to be doing/have access to "

Most "hackers" are security buffs that are keeping track on new trends. and keeping their own shit safe.

Theres only one way to test your own shit against hackers, and that is to hack it yourself.

Is there a leader. Yes His name is bill gates. He has hacked more computers than anyone on earth.

P.s. to you ! keep your private info off your computer or dont talk so much smack

Mr. Porno King · 11-16-2003, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
Who leads the Hackers? Is there a leader or...?

I am the leader of the hackers. We are very powerful, and can leap over buildings. Please send me your credit card number and expiry date, and I will tell all the hackers to not use it to buy elite hacker merchandise, like whores.

hudson · 11-16-2003, 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

P.s. to you ! keep your private info off your computer or dont talk so much smack

Hey Smokey, do you got a tin foil hat too?

Smokey The Bear · 11-16-2003, 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

Maybe Bin Laden is leading them

Try the russian mafiya , and your getting closer

Why · 11-16-2003, 08:32 PM

there is no leader.

they run in packs.

and they are all powerful.

eddie-executive · 11-16-2003, 08:34 PM

The internet is as secure as a virgins pussy on prom night.

Smokey The Bear · 11-16-2003, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by hudson

Hey Smokey, do you got a tin foil hat too?

Nope but i got a pair of size 13 daytons ready if you want to test them out.

The Click · 11-16-2003, 08:36 PM

real hackers don't talk about hacking.

and they don't talk about fight club either.

hudson · 11-16-2003, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Nope but i got a pair of size 13 daytons ready if you want to test them out.

hmmm...no thanks on the daytons!

I agree with you, though....hackers is a broad term

hudson · 11-16-2003, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by The Click
real hackers don't talk about hacking.

and they don't talk about fight club either.

Wait....I thought we were talking about hackers and now you bring up Patrick Swayze

The Click · 11-16-2003, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by hudson

Wait....I thought we were talking about hackers and now you bring up Patrick Swayze

Patrick Swayze?

hudson · 11-16-2003, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by The Click

Patrick Swayze?

fight club = patrick swayze, no?

PersianKitty · 11-16-2003, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by hudson

fight club = patrick swayze, no?

no.. fight club = brad pitt

MetaMan · 11-16-2003, 08:48 PM

the real hackers dont say they are hackers, they r security experts and make of them in their young 20's.

anyone who said they hack in this thread is a wannabe and probly uses scripts like backorfice.

alot of warez groups have good hackers, but u will never see them publicizing it.

Smokey The Bear · 11-16-2003, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by hudson

fight club = patrick swayze, no?

brad pitt

KMR Stitch · 11-16-2003, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by silver
Cult Of The Dead Cow

They work for the Government now....

Smokey The Bear · 11-16-2003, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by MetaMan
the real hackers dont say they are hackers, they r security experts and make of them in their young 20's.

anyone who said they hack in this thread is a wannabe and probly uses scripts like backorfice.

alot of warez groups have good hackers, but u will never see them publicizing it.

Did you actually read the thread or just the last line again..

Did you not see mitnick in here not long ago. ?

Scripts dont hack people hack.

If you have to use a well known script to hack chances are your the victim not the target.

Most hack scripts are nothing more than ways for hackers to hack you.

As i mentioned earlier in this thread "hacking" is a broad term and if you have ever used kazaalite then your a "hacker"

MetaMan · 11-16-2003, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Did you actually read the thread or just the last line again..

Did you not see mitnick in here not long ago. ?

Scripts dont hack people hack.

If you have to use a well known script to hack chances are your the victim not the target.

Most hack scripts are nothing more than ways for hackers to hack you.

As i mentioned earlier in this thread "hacking" is a broad term and if you have ever used kazaalite then your a "hacker"

mitnick was just used by the hacker community to gain awareness that they are all not crackers. this does not make him one of the best.

real hackers r usually also hardcore programmers and write there own tools, they dont wait for a trojan update as technology increases, they search and find their own exploits, thats wat makes u a hacker.

and dont give me that broad term bullshit.

u sound like another wannabe, just because u use photoshop doesnt make u a designer. and just because u use scripts doesnt make u a hacker.

idiot.

Smokey The Bear · 11-16-2003, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by MetaMan

mitnick was just used by the hacker community to gain awareness that they are all not crackers. this does not make him one of the best.

real hackers r usually also hardcore programmers and write there own tools, they dont wait for a trojan update as technology increases, they search and find their own exploits, thats wat makes u a hacker.

and dont give me that broad term bullshit.

Again this was all explained in this thread already . TRY READING THE THREAD . And dont paraquote me moron. Did i say mitnick was the best ?

You said real hackers dont come on gfy and call themselves hackers.

Its as if you dont even read what your quoting.

As far as telling me hacking isnt a BROAD term you make yourself look foolish.

heres the dictionary term for you

hack·er1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hakr)

One who is proficient at using or programming a computer; a computer buff.

MetaMan · 11-16-2003, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Again this was all explained in this thread already . TRY READING THE THREAD . And dont paraquote me moron. Did i say mitnick was the best ?

You said real hackers dont come on gfy and call themselves hackers.

Its as if you dont even read what your quoting.

i never said u said that lol, i was telling u was i see on the issue,
lets all get along, i bought u some knee pads,

no im not gay.

ytcracker · 11-16-2003, 09:04 PM

i r teh leeder of da hackurz

google me tender

Smokey The Bear · 11-16-2003, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by MetaMan

i never said u said that lol, i was telling u was i see on the issue,
lets all get along, i bought u some knee pads,

no im not gay.

If you quote me then in the DIRECT following words say something, suprise suprise that i would think you were talking to me ..

p.s. fix your spelling mistakes , it makes it hard to figure out what the hell your saying

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Another bland term that can fit almost anything.

There are good hackers bad hackers curious hackers Bored hackers hobby hackers. Stupid hackers, Vendetta hackers.

I hacked my microwave the other day and found a secret message that the programmer coded into the display.

Once ****** my local atm and found that they run a micrcrap os. How pathetic.

Not long ago i ****** mitnicks' new company server just to see what he had. ( guess he aint so clever after being locked up for so long )

If your not being specific then i guess it could mean . "anything your not normally supposed to be doing/have access to "

Most "hackers" are security buffs that are keeping track on new trends. and keeping their own shit safe.

Theres only one way to test your own shit against hackers, and that is to hack it yourself.

Is there a leader. Yes His name is bill gates. He has hacked more computers than anyone on earth.

P.s. to you ! keep your private info off your computer or dont talk so much smack

I bow to the power.

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty

no.. fight club = brad pitt

TheFLY · 11-16-2003, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by MetaMan

mitnick was just used by the hacker community to gain awareness that they are all not crackers. this does not make him one of the best.

real hackers r usually also hardcore programmers and write there own tools, they dont wait for a trojan update as technology increases, they search and find their own exploits, thats wat makes u a hacker.

and dont give me that broad term bullshit.
u sound like another wannabe, just because u use photoshop doesnt make u a designer. and just because u use scripts doesnt make u a hacker.

idiot.

I'm staying out of this one!

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humanaut Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 53	There are a few guys in the world (about 50) who between them always have access to 0day exploits for the latest services and operating systems.. they are very powerful.. but most of them never do anything nasty Mostly greyhats and work for companies like Iss Xforce Foundstone Eeye etc during the day There is an emerging hacker scene in asia.. they used to be just script kiddies but now some of the biggest 0day exploits come out of .cn

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MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	the real hackers dont say they are hackers, they r security experts and make of them in their young 20's. anyone who said they hack in this thread is a wannabe and probly uses scripts like backorfice. alot of warez groups have good hackers, but u will never see them publicizing it.

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