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Old 11-15-2003, 01:07 PM   #1
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Show your ADS stats?

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I think ADS is a GREAT company I just think the traffic that was setn to there is kinda suspect ( see post here ) .... I just want to see if other people do this bad with forgien dialer traffic and what there normal ratio on ADS is....



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Old 11-15-2003, 01:08 PM   #2
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I think ADS is a GREAT company I just think the traffic that was setn to there is kinda suspect ( see post here ) .... I just want to see if other people do this bad with forgien dialer traffic and what there normal ratio on ADS is....



German people HATE it to getting redirected to a dialer over and over again. The EU isn't a 3rd world country with no money in the pockets. They have credit cards and debt cards, it's the sponsors job to implement billing solutions (not dialers, something like bank account billing, european people haven't checks)

Dialers are dead. (In the near future for the US and EU market)
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German people HATE it to getting redirected to a dialer over and over again. The EU isn't a 3rd world country with no money in the pockets. They have credit cards and debt cards, it's the sponsors job to implement billing solutions (not dialers, something like bank account billing, european people haven't checks)

Dialers are dead. (In the near future for the US and EU market)
Naw i have had luck with other dialers with all sorts of foreign traffic ( yes including germany ) ... i dunno

just wierd to me i guess


Only country i have never been able to throw a dialer at is the us and canada

the rest eat em up
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Old 11-15-2003, 01:28 PM   #6
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wow.. check out http://webmasters.nocreditcard.com they never do worse then 1:50 for german calls when i redirect some of my traffic to dialer..
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JupZChris, msg me on ICQ pls 1889711, about both your traffic logs you posted in the other thread and this ...
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JupZChris, msg me on ICQ pls 1889711, about both your traffic logs you posted in the other thread and this ...
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Errrr, not to good. Something dont seem right. Germany is a good country for dialers.
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why even take the risk of promoting a dialer company knowing the problem when it comes to lines always comes up?
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Old 11-15-2003, 01:57 PM   #12
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why even take the risk of promoting a dialer company knowing the problem when it comes to lines always comes up?
Certain countries dont use credit cards.

So those countries your loosing money if you dont send them to a dialer.

Maximize your traffic by dialers.
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Certain countries dont use credit cards.

So those countries your loosing money if you dont send them to a dialer.

Maximize your traffic by dialers.
well i dont like dialers overall, why not just redirect the lower paying countries through a higher paying country proxy?

never though of a scam like that did ya
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Everyone who says, dialers are dead are an dumbass. I earn really good cash with my dialer sponsor. The dialer converts at 1:82 maximum.

the benefit at international bucks is the smartcode. it shoots a popunder to your surfers (foreign or european only) and you wont loose your visitor. Thats why i like 'em. Maybe you should give it a try.

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Everyone who says, dialers are dead are an dumbass. I earn really good cash with my dialer sponsor. The dialer converts at 1:82 maximum.

the benefit at international bucks is the smartcode. it shoots a popunder to your surfers (foreign or european only) and you wont loose your visitor. Thats why i like 'em. Maybe you should give it a try.

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ADS filters your traffic aswell

same thing as Internation bucks offers
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Old 11-15-2003, 02:08 PM   #16
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Yikes. But German traffic is GOOD most of the time. I would send them to CC sponsors. Don't send them to a dialer.
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Hey of course you didn't make any money ADS has to be able to pay for the giant spam campaign they are currently promoting. So wait another month or two and then try to rape some EU customers again and you might make oh $20 or $30.

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Soul_Rebel is sponsored by ADS:
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Let me just clarify one thing on this, this traffic was given to JC in a giveaway he got last night, I have NO clue as to the source/type of this traffic so I'm not going to comment on it, however no one has ever done this badly with German traffic using our dialers.
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however no one has ever done this badly with German traffic using our dialers.
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Hey of course you didn't make any money ADS has to be able to pay for the giant spam campaign they are currently promoting. So wait another month or two and then try to rape some EU customers again and you might make oh $20 or $30.

sad but true ... not only ADS but ARS as well ... 1:4000 from pure google niche traffic most of No.1-5 positions ... what a joke they are these days
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Certain countries dont use credit cards.

So those countries your loosing money if you dont send them to a dialer.

Maximize your traffic by dialers.
So Germany doesn't use credit cards you're saying right?
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Guy's I'm not blamming ADS at all for any of this


They are great guys and when it came time to set me with an account they added me to icq already and had me set up. Great guys.


I'm pretty sure it was the traffic that was sent to me. It was a giveaway traffic so what can you expect from it right ?

I just wanted to see how other people did with ADS
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I've been redirecting some of my international traffic to it since they begun, never made a cent.
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I've been redirecting some of my international traffic to it since they begun, never made a cent.
Haven't you read this board recently? All of the European countries' surfers have been waiting for you guys to pop them with dialer requests on your pages because they actually LIKE TO PAY $5/MIN on a dialer with their trusty 33.6k modem!
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Haven't you read this board recently? All of the European countries' surfers have been waiting for you guys to pop them with dialer requests on your pages because they actually LIKE TO PAY $5/MIN on a dialer with their trusty 33.6k modem!
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German people HATE it to getting redirected to a dialer over and over again. The EU isn't a 3rd world country with no money in the pockets. They have credit cards and debt cards, it's the sponsors job to implement billing solutions (not dialers, something like bank account billing, european people haven't checks)

Dialers are dead. (In the near future for the US and EU market)
LOL

Here speaks a great mind..!

Well let me get you out of your dream. I don't know in what country you live but dialers are far from dead. In fact, many countries in Europe just use dialers... and NO CC!

Dialers aren't dead. And unlike most US dialers, they are NOT ripping off customers. Don't let your own ignorance fool you.

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In fact, many countries in Europe just use dialers... and NO CC!
So enligten us. Which western/central EU country's citizens use (almost) no CCs to access premium web content?

Name just one.

Just because you get dialer minutes doesn't mean there is no CC revenue to be generated from a particular country.
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So enligten us. Which western/central EU country's citizens use (almost) no CCs to access premium web content?

Name just one.

Just because you get dialer minutes doesn't mean there is no CC revenue to be generated from a particular country.
personally if i was using a dialer i would only re-direct countries for which the sponsors billing won't allow. or if the sponsor themselves re-directs traffic. if countries can use CC but choose not to, chances are they won't want to pay the costs that a dialer would run.
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Just to point out :

Fast-Adult-Traffic DID NOT hitbot me as those stats came from MY DOMAIN and they send the traffic to my REF code. They are sorting things out now and even having me test out traffic for other countrys =)
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Haven't you read this board recently? All of the European countries' surfers have been waiting for you guys to pop them with dialer requests on your pages because they actually LIKE TO PAY $5/MIN on a dialer with their trusty 33.6k modem!
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Fast-Adult-Traffic DID NOT hitbot me as those stats came from MY DOMAIN and they send the traffic to my REF code. They are sorting things out now and even having me test out traffic for other countrys =)
bro,there's nothing wrong with the traffic you got. But it's not for generating income with dialers. Dialers is a way to convert your intl traffic to $, but it's not that simple as buying cheap bulk traffic from countries with high rates and sending them to a dialer.....Everytime you see someone doing it, you never see him again. It's a failed way, no matter what dialer are you gonna use.

i enabled the ads dialer on an ars account i have for about 9 days. So far:

Total 15,611 140 1,025 $0.19 $271.50
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What's the deal with Asian traffic? I never hear shit about it, but there must be a lot out there. Good for dialers?
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LOL

Here speaks a great mind..!

Well let me get you out of your dream. I don't know in what country you live but dialers are far from dead. In fact, many countries in Europe just use dialers... and NO CC!

Dialers aren't dead. And unlike most US dialers, they are NOT ripping off customers. Don't let your own ignorance fool you.

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Btw, could anyone translate this:
Heise news ticker

This is the end of the world...
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You probably redirected 19 thousand Americans living in Germany. GIs and contractors with credit cards looking for some porn........

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guys stop dreaming....germany releases almost every 2 weeks some new dialer terror news....the people know now very good about it....at some of you it sill works, but not in future......

Dialer will die soon....
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Theres nothing more written, than the fact, that a part of the german government closed some dialers.......to be continued
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guys stop dreaming....germany releases almost every 2 weeks some new dialer terror news....the people know now very good about it....at some of you it sill works, but not in future......

Dialer will die soon....
That's why they are spending so much time to regulate the dialer & telecom billing industry in Germany so they can just kill it....

don't think so. They are making every company register there phone numbers and dialers so they can better rugulate the current dialer and telecom billing situation. This is very positive .... the scammers will get booted and the legitamate telecom billing companies will have a fair and governed market to compete in.

The fact of the matter is... those companies that dont have their shit together will not be competing in the new market place.
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That's why they are spending so much time to regulate the dialer & telecom billing industry in Germany so they can just kill it....

don't think so. They are making every company register there phone numbers and dialers so they can better rugulate the current dialer and telecom billing situation. This is very positive .... the scammers will get booted and the legitamate telecom billing companies will have a fair and governed market to compete in.

The fact of the matter is... those companies that dont have their shit together will not be competing in the new market place.
I think Steelhead is right. A regulated dialer market has its advantages: The end user will trust into dialers again. Also will the end user have to pay for services used through a registered dialer, which minimizes the charge back risk. When thinking about FUTURE INCOME, it is definitely good to have some basic rules that everyone agrees on.
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So Germany doesn't use credit cards you're saying right?
No Germany as a country has credit cards but as a country they prefer to use dialers or other payment forms.

But if you test your traffic by either sending it to a credit card site or a dialer site, you'll likely make more with dialer.
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:22 PM   #50
Seb From Holland
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Originally posted by Madball
So enligten us. Which western/central EU country's citizens use (almost) no CCs to access premium web content?

Name just one.

Just because you get dialer minutes doesn't mean there is no CC revenue to be generated from a particular country.
I'll name two for ya:
The Netherlands
Belgium
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