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bena1975ca · 11-14-2003, 05:35 PM

Would I be the only person in the house that considers this site...what's the word I'm looking for here...wrong?!

http://www.16-19crazyteenz.com/

Now, forgive me if I'm wrong (and I very well may be), but isn't implying that the girls in your material are under age just as illegal as them actually being under age?

For instance...the 16sweet16 picture where frankly, the chick may as well be topless implies that this chick is under age...illegal or legal?

Perhaps someone would like to tell me what the standing is on this...

Ta muchly,

Ben

$5 submissions · 11-14-2003, 05:41 PM

If they actually have 16 year olds then of course its illegal in the US (US Federal age of consent is 18 although some states can go as low as 16).

If they are actually 18 year olds and over, then the site is misleading. And may still be subject to state obscenity prosecution. Run a google search on Ginsburg vs. New York (US Supreme Court holding that marketing NON Obscene materials as Obscene or illegal can lead to obscenity charges)

Brad-Wishing · 11-14-2003, 05:41 PM

My personal opinion is that it would be wrong - but then again I don't know the laws on this so I have no official word.

Bigjohn · 11-14-2003, 05:52 PM

Definately wrong anyway you look at it.

LadyMischief · 11-14-2003, 06:00 PM

If a girl is portrayed strongly as being underage, engaging in activities considered to be strictly childlike activities, it doesn't matter HOW old the model is, in many cases it would still be considered CP.

bena1975ca · 11-14-2003, 06:12 PM

I really don't feel that this site constitutes "childlike activities"...in fact, there's one link on it that claims 13-19 content...which I find really distasteful.

rowan · 11-14-2003, 06:16 PM

Sorry to say this, but there's heaps of sites like that that pump traffic around (check out the toplist). This is the dirty world of <18 "non nude" *cough cough*

IntenseCash · 11-14-2003, 06:24 PM

thats a site I would report... the girls on the site still look very young... report it!

timboss · 11-14-2003, 07:16 PM

if you report it , what will happen?

I was getting spammed from a sleaze who kept emailing me links to join a 'lolita' site.

It was really fucked up, very young girls.

I reported this to the fbi, and as many agencies as possible,
nothing happened...

the guy was out of russia, is this how these fuckers get away with it? Are other countries so fucked up, there is no law against it?

ModelPerfect · 11-14-2003, 07:58 PM

For the lawyers out there: Wasn't there a recent US Supreme Court case that basically said you could pass a girl off as underaged as long as she wasn't actually a minor? I think this turned the old notion that having an 18+ girl surrounded by childish objects, such as lollipops + teddy bears, was arguably CP.

I agree it's wrong, but I do remember reading something about that maybe a year ago... Can anyone confirm or deny?

Mr.Fiction · 11-14-2003, 08:17 PM

If they are outside the U.S. then the laws of their country may allow 16 years olds to be nude.

U.S. laws only apply to the U.S.

klik · 11-14-2003, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Sorry to say this, but there's heaps of sites like that that pump traffic around (check out the toplist). This is the dirty world of <18 "non nude" *cough cough*

that same guy owns well over 100+ questionable domains.. check all those links out.

11-14-2003, 05:35 PM	#1
bena1975ca Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 157	Unexcusable sites Would I be the only person in the house that considers this site...what's the word I'm looking for here...wrong?! http://www.16-19crazyteenz.com/ Now, forgive me if I'm wrong (and I very well may be), but isn't implying that the girls in your material are under age just as illegal as them actually being under age? For instance...the 16sweet16 picture where frankly, the chick may as well be topless implies that this chick is under age...illegal or legal? Perhaps someone would like to tell me what the standing is on this... Ta muchly, Ben __________________ Brad is a bitch he's a big fat bitch he's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world...

11-14-2003, 05:41 PM	#2
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11-14-2003, 06:00 PM	#5
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11-14-2003, 06:12 PM	#6
bena1975ca Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 157	I really don't feel that this site constitutes "childlike activities"...in fact, there's one link on it that claims 13-19 content...which I find really distasteful. __________________ Brad is a bitch he's a big fat bitch he's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world...

11-14-2003, 05:52 PM	#4
Bigjohn Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Deep inside my mind Posts: 1,118	Definately wrong anyway you look at it.

11-14-2003, 06:16 PM	#7
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Sorry to say this, but there's heaps of sites like that that pump traffic around (check out the toplist). This is the dirty world of <18 "non nude" cough cough

11-14-2003, 06:24 PM	#8
IntenseCash Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,421	thats a site I would report... the girls on the site still look very young... report it! __________________ IntenseCash.com ~ Chuck \| ICQ: 444887112 Top converting sites: BrokeStraightBoys.com, CollegeDudes.com & CollegeBoyPhysicals.com

11-14-2003, 07:16 PM	#9
timboss Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 627	if you report it , what will happen? I was getting spammed from a sleaze who kept emailing me links to join a 'lolita' site. It was really fucked up, very young girls. I reported this to the fbi, and as many agencies as possible, nothing happened... the guy was out of russia, is this how these fuckers get away with it? Are other countries so fucked up, there is no law against it? __________________ ICQ: 338637464

11-14-2003, 07:58 PM	#10
ModelPerfect Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,862	For the lawyers out there: Wasn't there a recent US Supreme Court case that basically said you could pass a girl off as underaged as long as she wasn't actually a minor? I think this turned the old notion that having an 18+ girl surrounded by childish objects, such as lollipops + teddy bears, was arguably CP. I agree it's wrong, but I do remember reading something about that maybe a year ago... Can anyone confirm or deny?

11-14-2003, 08:17 PM	#11
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	If they are outside the U.S. then the laws of their country may allow 16 years olds to be nude. U.S. laws only apply to the U.S.