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  • Jon
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    • Jun 2002
    • 2578

    #1

    Acacia Is Suing Me..

    Yep, got a big 'ol letter from them. Looks like they are going after me.
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  • SpaceAce
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    • Jul 2002
    • 6493

    #2
    Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
    Yep, got a big 'ol letter from them. Looks like they are going after me.
    Better start filing counter-suits.

    SpaceAce

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    • Mr.Fiction
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      • Feb 2002
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      #3
      Did you get a regular letter or did you get legally served?
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      • StuartD
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        • Jul 2002
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        #4
        Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
        Yep, got a big 'ol letter from them. Looks like they are going after me.
        Not the same standard form letter that everyone is getting?
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        • Ludedude
          Suck it!
          • Jun 2001
          • 4432

          #5
          Is it the standard form letter or did they really server you with papers?

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          • Ludedude
            Suck it!
            • Jun 2001
            • 4432

            #6
            haha 3 responses all the same

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            • webgurl
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              • Aug 2002
              • 7954

              #7
              The same letter as everyone else or they are persuing actual legal action ?

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              • Jon
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                • Jun 2002
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                #8
                Well..

                The best part about this, is I don't violate any of their patents.. I've got no streaming audio or video on any of my sites. I don't even run paysites or MGP's for the matter. All I do is SEO... Can I counter sue them for trying to extort funds from me when I didn't infringe on any of their shit?
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                • Jon
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                  • Jun 2002
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                  #9
                  No.. they served me. Not a standard letter.
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                  • Sly_RJ
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                    • Feb 2002
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                    Well..

                    The best part about this, is I don't violate any of their patents.. I've got no streaming audio or video on any of my sites. I don't even run paysites or MGP's for the matter. All I do is SEO... Can I counter sue them for trying to extort funds from me when I didn't infringe on any of their shit?
                    No, but you're linking to paysites that DO "infringe" on their patents, which means they also want your ass.
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                    • Ludedude
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                      • Jun 2001
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                      #11
                      Lovely. How the hell do they plan to prove infringement when you don't stream shit? How far up their ass do they have their heads?

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                      • Jon
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                        • Jun 2002
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                        No, but you're linking to paysites that DO "infringe" on their patents, which means they also want your ass.
                        bastards..
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                        • vapewiz
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                          • Nov 2002
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                          Well..

                          The best part about this, is I don't violate any of their patents.. I've got no streaming audio or video on any of my sites. I don't even run paysites or MGP's for the matter. All I do is SEO... Can I counter sue them for trying to extort funds from me when I didn't infringe on any of their shit?
                          Sounds like you just got the letter 90% of other people got... don't be worried if your not infinging on them. Just toss it in the fire place.

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                          • Mr.Fiction
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                            • Feb 2002
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                            No.. they served me. Not a standard letter.
                            Call the guys at IMPA and talk to them before you have your lawyers respond. If Acacia is harassing you and you have nothing to do with their patent, that might be helpful information for the judge in the case to know about.
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                            • Giorgio_Xo
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                              • Mar 2003
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                              No.. they served me. Not a standard letter.
                              Countersue for extortion and illegal business practises.
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                              • StuartD
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 29903

                                #16
                                I do believe they can get you just for linking to sites that have streaming, or video/audio files.

                                So if you have a link to a site at all... or a program... then you would be violating their patents.
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                                • doober
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                                  • Jul 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                  No, but you're linking to paysites that DO "infringe" on their patents, which means they also want your ass.
                                  thats double dipping, cosidering they want the paysite operators to pay and the webmaster to pay

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                                  • Jon
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                                    • Jun 2002
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                    No.. they served me. Not a standard letter.
                                    It's not a regular letter...
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                                    • Ludedude
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                                      #19
                                      I agree, then move all your shit to Panama and run and hide like the AC assholes.

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                                      • doober
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                                        • Jul 2003
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ludedude
                                        I agree, then move all your shit to Panama and run and hide like the AC assholes.

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                                        • Jon
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                          I do believe they can get you just for linking to sites that have streaming, or video/audio files.

                                          So if you have a link to a site at all... or a program... then you would be violating their patents.
                                          But.. I am not linking to a page with the stream. Just the site, and you can't see the stream unless you pay. This is gay.
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                                          • eroswebmaster
                                            March 1st, 2003
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 20295

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV


                                            It's not a regular letter...
                                            So was it sent registered? Did they use a process server?

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                                            • Jon
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                                              #23
                                              Furthermore.. Does this mean that the TGP and MGP guys that LINK to sites that do streaming will be subject to getting their asses sued as well?
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                                              • doober
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                                                • Jul 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                                No.. they served me. Not a standard letter.

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                                                • Ludedude
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                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 4432

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                                  Furthermore.. Does this mean that the TGP and MGP guys that LINK to sites that do streaming will be subject to getting their asses sued as well?
                                                  Yes, according to them all the link sites are infringing. Got google?

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                                                  • StuartD
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                                                    • Jul 2002
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV


                                                    But.. I am not linking to a page with the stream. Just the site, and you can't see the stream unless you pay. This is gay.
                                                    Doesn't have to be to a page that has a stream. Just to a website that has video/audio on it somewhere. Basically, if you link to a company/program/website that practices the transmission of video or audio over the internet, they see it as a violation of their patent.
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                                                    • doober
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                                                      • Jul 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                                      Furthermore.. Does this mean that the TGP and MGP guys that LINK to sites that do streaming will be subject to getting their asses sued as well?
                                                      yes

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                                                      • Jon
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                                                        • Jun 2002
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Ludedude


                                                        Yes, according to them all the link sites are infringing. Got google?
                                                        ouch.
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                                                        • Sly_RJ
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                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                          • 17042

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV


                                                          But.. I am not linking to a page with the stream. Just the site, and you can't see the stream unless you pay. This is gay.
                                                          Of course it's gay, because Berman loves dropping to his knees to suck the big black cock. This my friends... is what we call the truth!
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                                                          • Ludedude
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                                                            • 4432

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                            Of course it's gay, because Berman loves dropping to his knees to suck the big black cock. This my friends... is what we call the truth!

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                                                            • icedemon
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                                                              • Jun 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                              I do believe they can get you just for linking to sites that have streaming, or video/audio files.

                                                              So if you have a link to a site at all... or a program... then you would be violating their patents.
                                                              That's kinda slim standings for them to go after websites that are linking to other websites with videos. All he has to do is show that Acacia hasn't shown what websites have the license and show how it would ruin the internet if Google, Yahoo and all the other search engines and directories were to be sued for the same reason.

                                                              I have a feeling that a judge would just throw it out of court if the judge had any understanding of the internet. But that just a feeling, not what the law says (if the law says anything about it).
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                                                              • Police state
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                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                • 175

                                                                #32
                                                                looks like that impa thing was just a scam to get your money. i dont see them helping anybody

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                                                                • TDF
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                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                  • 27296

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                                  Of course it's gay, because Berman loves dropping to his knees to suck the big black cock. This my friends... is what we call the truth!


                                                                  for clarifcation,not my cock!
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                                                                  • doober
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                                                                    • Jul 2003
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Police state
                                                                    looks like that impa thing was just a scam to get your money. i dont see them helping anybody
                                                                    are you an idiot?

                                                                    wait dont answer that....

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                                                                    • eroswebmaster
                                                                      March 1st, 2003
                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 20295

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by eroswebmaster


                                                                      So was it sent registered? Did they use a process server?

                                                                      What?
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                                                                      • doober
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        eroswemaster are you even reading this thread?

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                                                                        • Jon
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          eros--

                                                                          eh??
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                                                                          • WiredGuy
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                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 34512

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                                                            Well..

                                                                            The best part about this, is I don't violate any of their patents.. I've got no streaming audio or video on any of my sites. I don't even run paysites or MGP's for the matter. All I do is SEO... Can I counter sue them for trying to extort funds from me when I didn't infringe on any of their shit?
                                                                            Hit me up on ICQ since we're both doing the same thing
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                                                                            • eroswebmaster
                                                                              March 1st, 2003
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 20295

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by doober
                                                                              eroswemaster are you even reading this thread?

                                                                              Yes I am...but he has not answered that question...he says "served," I want to know if they actually used a process server...seems like it would be kinda extreme since he's in NY.
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                                                                              • eroswebmaster
                                                                                March 1st, 2003
                                                                                • Jul 2001
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                                                                eros--

                                                                                eh??
                                                                                Try answering the question...did they use an actual process server? And was this done in NY?
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                                                                                • Libertine
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                                                                                  • May 2002
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by MaskedMan


                                                                                  Doesn't have to be to a page that has a stream. Just to a website that has video/audio on it somewhere. Basically, if you link to a company/program/website that practices the transmission of video or audio over the internet, they see it as a violation of their patent.
                                                                                  Ofcourse chances of that holding up in court are pretty much non-existent, if you have a half-decent lawyer. What they are trying to do is much like suing the yellow pages because they list companies that sell pay per view.

                                                                                  Although it has no chance of holding up in court, and they know it themselves, it serves two purposes: 1) people who get sued will be tempted to settle and 2) people who haven't been sued yet will be scared into signing.

                                                                                  Even if their patent would hold up in court (unlikely), this "infringement by association" will not.
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                                                                                  • Jon
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                                                                                    • Jun 2002
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by eroswebmaster


                                                                                    Try answering the question...did they use an actual process server? And was this done in NY?
                                                                                    Registered letter handed to me in person.
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                                                                                    • doober
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      For Eros


                                                                                      Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                                                                      No.. they served me. Not a standard letter.

                                                                                      pretty sure it means served by a baliff of sorts

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                                                                                      • Mr.Fiction
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                        I do believe they can get you just for linking to sites that have streaming, or video/audio files.

                                                                                        So if you have a link to a site at all... or a program... then you would be violating their patents.
                                                                                        Do you own stock in Acacia?

                                                                                        Just because they say that it's violating their patent, that doesn't mean that it is. Acacia says a lot of bullshit.

                                                                                        Acacia is just making desperate claims to try to scare people. Let them take that to court and see how far it gets.

                                                                                        Even if their patent wasn't going to be overturned, which it will be, they are not going to win a case where someone just links to another site.

                                                                                        Don't settle with them, fight!
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                                                                                        • StuartD
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by punkworld


                                                                                          Ofcourse chances of that holding up in court are pretty much non-existent, if you have a half-decent lawyer. What they are trying to do is much like suing the yellow pages because they list companies that sell pay per view.

                                                                                          Although it has no chance of holding up in court, and they know it themselves, it serves two purposes: 1) people who get sued will be tempted to settle and 2) people who haven't been sued yet will be scared into signing.

                                                                                          Even if their patent would hold up in court (unlikely), this "infringement by association" will not.
                                                                                          Yeah, I agree.... I'm not saying they will get away with it, I'm just explaining their intentions, or, how I understand them.

                                                                                          Although, I really don't think they expect any court cases to be won in this kind of situation.... I think what they expect is that if even just 1% or 2% of all the sites they server roll over and just pay out of fear or intimidation.... then it's worth it for them. All they want right now is "more names on their list"

                                                                                          They want to rack up as many paying companies/people as possible to build a stronger case for themselves.

                                                                                          And if some young person trying to build a business for themself gets a letter and gets scared and doesn't have the resources to fight it.... they might just be the next name on Acacia's list.
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                                                                                          • Gemini
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            What state - Fed District court did they file on you in?
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                                                                                            • eroswebmaster
                                                                                              March 1st, 2003
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 20295

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by doober
                                                                                              For Eros





                                                                                              pretty sure it means served by a baliff of sorts
                                                                                              Dude jump off my cock.

                                                                                              He's been vague and I just wanted clarification:


                                                                                              Yep, got a big 'ol letter from them. Looks like they are going after me.

                                                                                              No.. they served me. Not a standard letter.


                                                                                              It's not a regular letter...
                                                                                              3 different answers...I just wanted clarification...thank you.
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                                                                                              • StuartD
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                                                                                Do you own stock in Acacia?

                                                                                                Just because they say that it's violating their patent, that doesn't mean that it is. Acacia says a lot of bullshit.

                                                                                                Acacia is just making desperate claims to try to scare people. Let them take that to court and see how far it gets.

                                                                                                Even if their patent wasn't going to be overturned, which it will be, they are not going to win a case where someone just links to another site.

                                                                                                Don't settle with them, fight!
                                                                                                Uhmm... I didn't say if it was a guaranteed win for them or anything. I'm just explaining how they see it, their reason for going after such sites.

                                                                                                I hate Acacia as much as the next webmaster, but it doesn't mean that I would suddenly be completely oblivious to what they're trying to do.
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                                                                                                • eroswebmaster
                                                                                                  March 1st, 2003
                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 20295

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV


                                                                                                  Registered letter handed to me in person.
                                                                                                  Thx for answering...as someone else asked what courts?

                                                                                                  I think it's strange going after someone in NY unless they are filing it in Cali and hoping you won't ever show up.
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                                                                                                  • doober
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    last i checked i wasnt on your cock, but it was clearly written...
                                                                                                    could see how you wanted to be 100% sure it was hand delivered, i just thought her statement implied it.

                                                                                                    can we be friends again??

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