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VideoVoyeur 11-13-2003 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by theking


I do not know what you think being a Pathfinder has to to do with being an FO. Pathfinders are Airborne and have specific functions.

"Originally established in England during WWII, the US army Pathfinder School is located at FT. Benning's Lillyman Hall. Potential pathfinders spend approximately three weeks learning and practicing their new skills. When the US Air Force assumed the combat air traffic control duties in 1951, the school was closed. In 1955, the school was reopened under the Airborne-Air Assault branch of the Infantry School. It continues to operate to this day. During the course students are taught basic air traffic control techniques; drop zone marking techniques; how to use computed air release points (CARPs); the ground marking release system; the Army Aircraft Verbal Initiated Release System and the proper use of the PIBALL weather balloon, to measure mean effective wind.

Today's Pathfinders are trained in airborne, small boat, vehicle, foot, and sometimes free fall infiltration techniques. These small four man teams may be parachuted in up to 72 hours in advance of the main assault force. They provide DZ/LZ surveys; site security; initial aircraft guidance, and mark and clear drop zones for follow-on forces. They are capable of engaging in demolition operations to clear DZ/LZ's of obstacles. If equipped with laser targeting devices (LTD) they may also designate targets of opportunity for air strikes. Pathfinders may be expected to coordinate aircraft movement, control parachute drops of personnel and equipment, conduct sling-load operations and provide initial weather information to commanders."







Show me one FO that isnt a pathfinder and Ill show you somoene who ISNT a FO.

VideoVoyeur 11-13-2003 04:42 PM

FO are people who are LONG in a zone before almost ANYONE else. They land even before the MPs and the Engineers do.

In desert Storm, while people sat comfortably back in camps, Forward observers were already over the line, marking off oil feilds and strategic targets.

Then later when field artillery opens up from 25 miles away, destroying targets with pinpoint accuracy, people are like "Oooh look, its the rangers."
Not.

3 people, 1 radio, Fire Support personnel, all either dropped in by parachute, or from Helos.


FO are responsible for making desicions in the field at a seconds notice. Do we need artillery, naval fire, or perhaps an air strike.


They do alot more then sit around and look pretty.

Adultnet 11-13-2003 05:07 PM

Ak47 is not better at all .. its also depands very much on the version of the guns...:ak47:

smut4all 11-13-2003 05:10 PM

The M16's used in vietnam are different than the modern m16

PenisFace 11-13-2003 05:12 PM

The most accurate weapon I've ever had the pleasure of firing was a Canadian enfield rifle... Second would have to be the FN FAL, third would be the HK G3A3, and fourth would be the AK47..

The great thing about the AK47 is you can bury it, dig it up a year later, clean it, load it, and fire it... They're also fairly accurate considering they're so cheap to make.

I'd take the 47 over the 16, just because its notorious for being on the best guns ever made when it comes to not jamming in shitty situations..

:2 cents:

partytime 11-13-2003 05:13 PM

Are the Russians still using AK-47's?

Roach 11-16-2003 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by partytime
Are the Russians still using AK-47's?
AK-74 and modifications

http://ois.org.ua/club/guns/aaa-2003...01-563-150.jpg

http://ois.org.ua/club/guns/aaa-2003...01-489-200.jpg

Buff 11-21-2003 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by VideoVoyeur



OF COURSE YOU WERE.

It always seems when someone is losing an argument that HEY were one of the thing being argued about...


:1orglaugh

How am I losing an argument? Forward Observers are not Special Forces. And, maybe you'd like to make a wager about whether or not I was Special Forces -- put up or shut your fucking cockholster, bitch.

Buff 11-21-2003 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by VideoVoyeur








Show me one FO that isnt a pathfinder and Ill show you somoene who ISNT a FO.

The Pathfinder School was shut down through most of the 90s, so I'm sure there are a lot of FOs who are not Pathfinders.

FIST, Forward Observers, Scouts, and all of those wannabes are not Special Forces. Deal with it. I already posted the link to SOCOM and it tells you about SOAR and Green Berets and Rangers, etc. Your little FO job ain't shit.

Now quit whining.


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