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Old 11-10-2003, 07:45 PM   #51
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Old 11-10-2003, 08:58 PM   #52
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Old 11-10-2003, 09:00 PM   #53
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Old 11-10-2003, 09:10 PM   #54
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Everyone should go buy an AC pass and then chargeback in the morning, that'll get whatever bank accounts they have to get shut down

Black eye on the industry as a whole, most of us knew it was coming, but didn't realize it would come with a "Fuck you very much" letter attached.

If you think this has no bearing on the industry, you are wrong.
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Old 11-10-2003, 09:12 PM   #55
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At least they didnt come out and say they found God!
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Old 11-10-2003, 09:23 PM   #56
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They still have sites selling memberships as of now? I know I had some fresh signups yesterday maybe even today but I didnt get the chance to see the stats.

Those are going to be some pissed off surfers

I deleted my AC Gold entrances as of now
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Old 11-10-2003, 09:28 PM   #57
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Some of you guys crack me up. 10,000 sites with AC? Gimme a fucking break.

I was one of the first AC affiliates. AC used to be cool, but turned into nothing but mini sites whose member sections had about as many pics as a thumbnail gallery. I was at one site a couple weeks ago that had just 1 single page of pics in its members areas.

Well said KRL. I remember the good old days of AC until things got screwy around 2001.

This change in AC may be a good or bad thing but only time will tell.

Great post!
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Old 11-10-2003, 09:32 PM   #58
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Anybody know the status of AC sites such as ACMoviepass/ACPrime which are already stand-alone membership sites? Are you still able to promote them as an affiliate even if you're not one of the selected few for the new unleashed AC program?
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Old 11-10-2003, 09:38 PM   #59
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Anybody know the status of AC sites such as ACMoviepass/ACPrime which are already stand-alone membership sites? Are you still able to promote them as an affiliate even if you're not one of the selected few for the new unleashed AC program?
Well I can still login to the AC Movie pass site. I dont think the regulations effect that being it is a paysite structure.
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Old 11-10-2003, 09:41 PM   #60
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Anybody know the status of AC sites such as ACMoviepass/ACPrime which are already stand-alone membership sites? Are you still able to promote them as an affiliate even if you're not one of the selected few for the new unleashed AC program?
Some people just don't learn.
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Old 11-10-2003, 09:51 PM   #61
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Some people just don't learn.
Hehe no, I was just inquiring. I wouldn't promote them myself even if they were still open. Just wanted to get a general idea of what webmasters feel about those sites.
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Old 11-10-2003, 09:55 PM   #62
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Ikonworx,

aren't you just a drunk that they fired? Maybe your opinion is bias to a degree. Just a thought really. I would be willing to bet that you are an ignorant fool that doesn't make a legal dime anywhere. On top of that, I would be willing to bet that you are among the herds of people posting here that only have a voice because this industry is set up to allow for stupidity to create chatter at will.

AC is no longer a welfare provider for the ignorant. I am saddened deeply. All the traffic leaches have dispersed.

Just sounds as if a free ride is over if you ask me.
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:04 PM   #63
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Ikonworx,

aren't you just a drunk that they fired? Maybe your opinion is bias to a degree. Just a thought really. I would be willing to bet that you are an ignorant fool that doesn't make a legal dime anywhere. On top of that, I would be willing to bet that you are among the herds of people posting here that only have a voice because this industry is set up to allow for stupidity to create chatter at will.

AC is no longer a welfare provider for the ignorant. I am saddened deeply. All the traffic leaches have dispersed.

Just sounds as if a free ride is over if you ask me.
I quit for starters, Who the fuck are you to even comment any thing towards me. Or are you one of them bitches that hides behinds nick names to get their point accross.
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:11 PM   #64
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Yes Gleem!

What a revolutionary thought!

Everyone do it now! I bet it will work. They will be shut down tomorrow!

Get some common sense.
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:29 PM   #65
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Yes Gleem!

What a revolutionary thought!

Everyone do it now! I bet it will work. They will be shut down tomorrow!

Get some common sense.
It was half a joke, but if they got 10k chargebacks, I bet they wouldn't be around..

You sound like you are going to stick with them, and if I am right, you are a fucking moron...
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:32 PM   #66
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Anybody know the status of AC sites such as ACMoviepass/ACPrime which are already stand-alone membership sites? Are you still able to promote them as an affiliate even if you're not one of the selected few for the new unleashed AC program?
Jeez. Have they got to walk around carrying a sign that says "we are crooks" before people will stop workig with them?
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:32 PM   #67
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:38 PM   #68
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I forgot that Ikonworx is a real name. I will keep my mouth shut towards you my friend, your probation is up in less than 3 weeks.

I can take that hint.

Gleem,

funny man, you didn't sound as if you were joking. I guess running a dead board for all these years has dryed out the fruit providing the funny, huh? And yes, I am a moron. Or at least not nearly as smart as a guy like you. What is it like to be so brilliant?

Enlighten a guy of my aptitude. Please.
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Jeez. Have they got to walk around carrying a sign that says "we are crooks" before people will stop workig with them?
"Hey, we just yanked rebills from 1000's of webmasters, but please keep using our other programs, those are ok."

great point jayeff, as we both know, people will continue using them, and the "lucky" select few who are stuck sending em traffic just to get their rebills are the ones I feel sorry for.
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:44 PM   #70
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AC is no longer a welfare provider for the ignorant. I am saddened deeply. All the traffic leaches have dispersed.

Just sounds as if a free ride is over if you ask me.
What total and utter bullshit... AC has been a haven for the traffic leaches (and they aren't the only AVS guilty of that) ever since someone developed software that could turn out hundreds of sites a day. Several of their biggest webmasters are leeches: this year, just 3 webmasters have accounted for more than 50% all new gold site submissions.

You really think these guys are suddenly going to turn around and start producing traffic? They wouldn't even know how. And good luck to them looking over their shoulders wondering when it's their turn to be screwed too.
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:50 PM   #71
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Jayeff is here...then poof! gone to the other fifty-five boards he follows all damn day and night.

Seriously brother. Seriously. Maybe do a little work or watch a little television. Just do something other than post on boards all day.

Open your blinds man, check out those buildings. Yea, I know, there used to be a herd of grazing cattle there. Can you believe the world? They expanded and never confided in your brilliance. What a shame.
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Lonny Cartier is my real name, Just so you know Im not hidding behind anything. If you clam me as a friend then who the hell are you may I ask. First name is ok, No need for last. As I know thos by first name for the one I use to deal with while working their.



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I forgot that Ikonworx is a real name. I will keep my mouth shut towards you my friend, your probation is up in less than 3 weeks.

I can take that hint.

Gleem,

funny man, you didn't sound as if you were joking. I guess running a dead board for all these years has dryed out the fruit providing the funny, huh? And yes, I am a moron. Or at least not nearly as smart as a guy like you. What is it like to be so brilliant?

Enlighten a guy of my aptitude. Please.
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:55 PM   #73
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Several of their biggest webmasters are leeches: this year, just 3 webmasters have accounted for more than 50% all new gold site submissions.
And you know this how? Was the system closed to submissions to other webmasters? Where is the proof of this?

Are you going to say that you followed the Link List daily and monitored domain appearences?

Give me a break. Huddle up with the rest of your cronies and call a play. Free ride is over. Grab some pine.
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Old 11-10-2003, 10:59 PM   #74
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Lonny Cartier is my real name, Just so you know Im not hidding behind anything. If you clam me as a friend then who the hell are you may I ask. First name is ok, No need for last. As I know thos by first name for the one I use to deal with while working their.
Everyone should pay attention to this sentence. It is a perfect example of the mental capacity of a great many adult industry webmasters.

If you are one of the eliminated webmasters, I can only guess that they are deeply sorry at the loss.
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and let me guess ... south-of-you is a AC employee who decided to fire up a new nick and jump on the board to defend their company.
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Everyone should pay attention to this sentence. It is a perfect example of the mental capacity of a great many adult industry webmasters.

If you are one of the eliminated webmasters, I can only guess that they are deeply sorry at the loss.
Thats Cool, from your posts I have some what of an Ideal of you who you are. So I'll let it rest no need to carry something on that's not going to get anyone anywere.
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Gleem,

funny man, you didn't sound as if you were joking. I guess running a dead board for all these years has dryed out the fruit providing the funny, huh? And yes, I am a moron. Or at least not nearly as smart as a guy like you. What is it like to be so brilliant?

Enlighten a guy of my aptitude. Please.
You are a fucking idiot, and wasting time enlightening a guy like you is something I'm not gonna do, but I can't resist. I bet my board which makes up a very small amount of my income makes more per month in advertising than 90% of the top AC webmasters that are blackmailed to continue using their program.

You look like the biggest idiot here, traffic leeches or not, yanking rebills and moving the company offshore is a crooked thing to do, and there are still shithead AC cheerleaders like you still waving your pom-pom's as the ship sinks.

Your either a total fucking idiot to stick with a company that just screwed it's webmasters, or more probably an employee of whatever AC is launching. In either case, suck my big hairy mooseballs ya shithead
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What total and utter bullshit... AC has been a haven for the traffic leaches (and they aren't the only AVS guilty of that) ever since someone developed software that could turn out hundreds of sites a day. Several of their biggest webmasters are leeches: this year, just 3 webmasters have accounted for more than 50% all new gold site submissions.

You really think these guys are suddenly going to turn around and start producing traffic? They wouldn't even know how. And good luck to them looking over their shoulders wondering when it's their turn to be screwed too.
Jayeff is right on this one. I've know of him for years. AC did have a huge list of leechers but again AC had a horrible time updating their links in their webmaster's area. We asked year after freaking year for them to clean it up and they bullshitted around for year after year.

They've changed this and that over and over again, some things for the better, some for the worse. Ever since around Jan 2001 I had nothing but problems with them and thought their 'AC Pay' program was a redeeming venture but that turned out to be the worst thing I've done in business ever.

So now that they've decided to do something else radical is on them. Sorry to see a lotta webmasters I've known for years get the wrong end but only time will tell if it's a good thing or a bad thing.

Worth watching over the next few months to see which webmasters stay and fight with them what got the boot.
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as a rule we know that 20% of the webmasters produce 80% of the sales. So do we really think that the 200 theykept were the dead wood and did people lose thousands of dollars ijn rebills.

I have no clue on this but did anyone lose that much that you personally know? I get rebills but it is not like they are rebilling at 80% or anything.
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Are you going to say that you followed the Link List daily and monitored domain appearences?
That is exactly what I did and it was very quick and easy with so few submissions and since so few domains were involved. I checked 2 months at the beginning of the year and the same again after the 1,000-pic rule came in. There was very little real change in who was doing what, so I doubt the 6 months I missed told a different story.

Why? Because during the time I wasn't involved in AVS, site numbers had gone through the roof. I wanted a clue how many sites could conceivably be generating traffic and how many were built just to soak up traffic. That was supposed to tell me which tactic to use myself, although in the event, with all the other crap going on, I stayed away from the whole thing.
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They didn't even wait till the 15th all the stats are shut off now..

Just another company that fucked its webmasters.
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