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FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 07:40 AM

If you have a patent and are thinking about coming into the adult industry to "convince" people to license your patent, I have some observations and comments for you (for those that are satire-challenged, this is a satire):

1) It won't matter what your patent actually means, what will scare webmasters it what you WANT your patent to mean. Just point out how you SAY they are infringing, show them a patent application and a license fee, and they will most likely believe you.

You don't have to be right. Take advantage of Patent and Civil Law where they are guilty until proven innocent.... and as you know, only a court will be able to make that decision.

2) There is no community. Don't worry about the big players looking out for the smaller players.. just get sweetheart deals with them so you can parade their name around town. You can make so much more money by getting a mass number of webmasters to pay you a smaller amount, then to get a few big players to pay you a large amount.

3) Don't try to go after large mainstream companies or universities, you will only get yourself in to a huge court battle with people who have deeper pockets. Pick on the targets that make enough money to pay for a nice car and a nice house and who spend their time on GFY posting how great they are.

4) Don't charge alot of money or do any percentages of GROSS revenue.. That's just a bad idea.. make the fee structure simple like if you make less than $300K/year, the fee for the license is like $1000. Over $300K, charge $2000.

$1000 is cheaper than 3-5 hours of attorney time and a low enough threshold that they will just pay you the money to be done with it.

Think about it.. 10,000 websites giving you $1,000/year = $10M/year all for doing nothing but sending out information/infringement packets. You already know how to do spam, just print it this time and mail it. I bet you will see higher then 1:500 conversions.

5) Don't worry about people like me who are trying to bring awareness to patent abuse. While I am trying to help defend people's right to do business, free of any bad patent (a bad patent is one where the idea or invention was in use before the patent), I am being criticized and bashed for my efforts.

Don't worry about my Fight the Patent Foundation idea, just look at the pledge counter below.. i am open enough to display the total, and as you can tell, I am far off from reaching the total. The big players could contribute to the Foundation, since I am not focused on just one patent abuse case, but most likely they will just continue with their business and deal with people like you on a case-by-case basis.

Anyone who tries to get webmasters to contribute to a fund to band together gets seen as some kind of "scam artist" or a fraud. Even organizations that have been setup by fellow webmasters like IMPA have trouble getting webmasters to donate/become members.

By making a sweetheart deal with some big players, you could actually get people who admire those companies to actually bash anyone who tries to fight against your patent. Some of these people will have good credibility with the webmasters that others will automatically think that they must be right, so they too should take up the bashing. It's a brilliant strategy to help silence and defeat any effort that tries to go against you.

6) Don't worry about the 11 defendants that are standing up to Acacia... they will get burnt out financially from the expenses of their defense. They will also be jaded by the lack of industry support and will most likely not be standing up to fight against the next attack. Think about it.. paying like $15K-$50K each for defense, could pay your $1,000 license easily, for 15-50 years!

7) Go after everyone up the chain from web designers, web hosts, webmasters, content producers, domain registrars, etc. Target everyone.... you never know what will stick til you throw it on the wall. Even send out letters to webmasters who are in no way infringing on your INTERPRETED patent... they may just pay you anyways.

8) Don't bother thinking that I might want to join your company (had one company already ask). While I am very technically skilled with some business savvy, I would rather give up all my technological innovations, turn my computer off, disconnect from the internet, and go do some woodworking, rather than see patent abuse stifle innovation and financially drain companies.

9) The webmasters won't read this whole post, it's way too long for them.. anything longer than a 1 sentence jab is too much for them, so don't worry about me posting this in a public forum, they won't be reading it.

10) Use Affiliate progams as easy ways of getting mailing addresses of people to target. Maybe offer some stock to these companies. I know you think that's harsh, why bite the hand that feeds you? If you can get them sweetheart deal, maybe give them some stock, and keep it all confidential, then it's all good.

Sure, it may suck that the people who helped make them successful get hit with the license. They know it takes money to make money, so this low-cost patent license is just another cost of doing business. If they can't afford the $1,000/year, then they just aren't doing something right. Afterall, the sponsor worked so hard to build up their business, they know what it takes.

Summary:

You have picked a great target in selecting the Adult Industry.. Berman from Acacia said it best, they are "low hanging fruit".

Just follow along with the Acacia news, study their methods and you will have a blueprint for your own plans.

The only problem that I think you may have, is that other people already have similar ideas of targeting webmasters for patents.

If too many patent licenses come out at the same time, you could end up really pissing people off, and then they would join together (when that happens, i'll be long gone after my fingers have gone stiff from all the emails and posts trying to get support, from my voice going scratchy in all the phone calls in helping to bring awareness, and by the bruises I take for being bashed in defending people's rights).

Better that you join forces with the other patent players (just don't make it public because that could be an antitust issue) and schedule/time your efforts. Maybe like 1 per quarter.. spread out the schedule so you put things in rotation and then you won't hurt your individual efforts in leeching money from these hard working webmasters. Just when their wound starts to heal from the previous patent attack, you hit them with another.

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This is a satirical post. If you did not laugh at the end, then you would have realized that "truth is said in jest".

Everyone of these points you can see is going on right now (minus some stuff I made up for this fictional story).

If you want to take a stand against patent abuse, join me in my solution and my fight at http://www.FightThePatent.com/go

If you don't like my solution, come up with a better one. I will join it if you can come up with a better way.

Just wait a little longer... the fictional story above will be come a real one.

-brandon

SpaceAce · 10-24-2003, 07:44 AM

I have a comment on #2.

Not only do scam patent poachers not have to worry about the community looking out for itself, they can count on members of the community actively stabbing each other in the back. Witness all those, "I got my Acacia packet addressed to a name I only use with sponsors," or, "only use with one place" threads.

Fuckers. Die, die, die, rot.

People who have seen my posts know I am reasonable and not overly emotional but this situation disgusts me so thoroughly I can barely express it.

SpaceAce

KRL · 10-24-2003, 07:45 AM

I've made nice $$$$$ with patents.

It just takes a couple years time, a good idea, and knowing how to leverage the value of it even before your patent is issued.

mrthumbs · 10-24-2003, 07:47 AM

you forgot 12:

"people will not have any confidence in someone that displays great plans but prefers to remain anonymous.."

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs
you forgot 12:

"people will not have any confidence in someone that displays great plans but prefers to remain anonymous.."

I know that you are not referring to me with that post.

Maybe you didn't read the 12clicks vs. Fight The Patent thread.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=188695

I am not anonymous.. should you care to read the ENTIRE thread, you will learn alot about me and my "great plans"

Fight the Patent!

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I've made nice $$$$$ with patents.

It just takes a couple years time, a good idea, and knowing how to leverage the value of it even before your patent is issued.

By no means am I saying patents are bad.

If you truly invented an idea and no prior art exists, then you have every right to profit (and stop others from profiting) from your Intellectual Property.

I have not dived into examining Brian Shuster's Exit Console patent (www.ideaflood.com) since its not my focus.

If he truly did invent the concept, then he deserves the millions of dollars he projects in his press release statements.

More power to you and to him if you have good patents.

But, if its a "bad" patent, hopefully FTPF will be around to help webmasters defend against it.

Fight the Patent!

mrthumbs · 10-24-2003, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent

I know that you are not referring to me with that post.

Maybe you didn't read the 12clicks vs. Fight The Patent thread.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=188695

I am not anonymous.. should you care to read the ENTIRE thread, you will learn alot about me and my "great plans"

Fight the Patent!

so i missed an episode on your fight the patent drama?
Now tell me..and forgive me my ignorance.. is this thing of you really about a patent or is this all about you?

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs

so i missed an episode on your fight the patent drama?
Now tell me..and forgive me my ignorance.. is this thing of you really about a patent or is this all about you?

Read the 12clicks vs. Fight the Patent thread.

If you still have questions, feel free to post in that thread, that's why it's there... I deserve public scrutiny for my efforts, and i give honest answers to relevant questions posted.

I hope that your doubts will be converted to making a pledge after you have read the thread.

Fight the Patent!

tony286 · 10-24-2003, 07:56 AM

It does hit home but thats the way adult webmasters are . lol My wife and I were talking yesterday, if Acacia had made it a flat rate like visa instead of we are now your business partner. I think it would just become one of those things you have to pay to be in business. When you start talking percentages of gross and we can audit your books, it makes people less responsive. Also I am curious what did holio do to get it thrown out and why that has nt become the model. Also fight the patent if your big thing is fighting the patent why werent you celebrating that victory in the boards?

mrthumbs · 10-24-2003, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent

Read the 12clicks vs. Fight the Patent thread.

If you still have questions, feel free to post in that thread, that's why it's there... I deserve public scrutiny for my efforts, and i give honest answers to relevant questions posted.

I hope that your doubts will be converted to making a pledge after you have read the thread.

Fight the Patent!

Fair answer.. ill do that.

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Also I am curious what did holio do to get it thrown out and why that has nt become the model. Also fight the patent if your big thing is fighting the patent why werent you celebrating that victory in the boards?

There are more details to the issues then what was conveyed by the posts and articles, and it's not my place to talk about it.

Those that do know the story because they were involved, can come forward and share them.

Holio's "victory" is no victory for the rest of the webmasters.

Maybe he escaped their patent license, but doesn't mean everyone else will...

Fight the Patent!

mrthumbs · 10-24-2003, 08:01 AM

one more suggestion and im really trying to be constructive:

you said it yourself "if a post is longer than x lines people dont read".

Why dont you learn from that and try to keep people sharp
and on topic by posting a bit less and stopping the information
overflow.

Considering all the info and huge posts youve made lately
you cant blame anyone not keeping on track.

Keep things more compact and i think better results are on its way.

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
if Acacia had made it a flat rate like visa instead of we are now your business partner. I think it would just become one of those things you have to pay to be in business.

What's sad is that if you could see their patent from the perspective of people who have been involved with computing, technology, and internet, before the Web Browser was first used by you, you would see that what they CLAIM their patent to mean was being done years to decades before their inventor had an apple land on his head.

That's why I got involved... I have that broad perspective of computing history, and I finally got fed up with reading about all these various patent abuse cases.

So I am willing to put aside my professional efforts and ventures to take up a cause that i personally and professionally am commited to fight against.

Fight the Patent!

tony286 · 10-24-2003, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent

There are more details to the issues then what was conveyed by the posts and articles, and it's not my place to talk about it.

Those that do know the story because they were involved, can come forward and share them.

Holio's "victory" is no victory for the rest of the webmasters.

Maybe he escaped their patent license, but doesn't mean everyone else will...

Fight the Patent!

Why talk in code? If it was in a court of law I assume it was public record so it wouldnt be a big secret. You not being forthcoming then makes me think you dont want people to know about this win because then they might stop pledging to your cause.

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs

Considering all the info and huge posts youve made lately
you cant blame anyone not keeping on track.

Keep things more compact and i think better results are on its way.

An excellent suggestion that has been echoed by others.

The problem is that there is so much to explain and since people don't know me, how are they going to accept answers like

"fight against patent abuse, pledge money now".

I am trying to shorten my posts.

Fight the Patent!

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404

Why talk in code? If it was in a court of law I assume it was public record so it wouldnt be a big secret. You not being forthcoming then makes me think you dont want people to know about this win because then they might stop pledging to your cause.

Not at all, i just don't want to post hearsay. I have had several people ask me for comment on the Holio issue. People who are part of the Defense Fund (which Holio was) know the facts, I turn to them to share the facts....

I too, want to know the answer....

Fight the Patent!

fiveyes · 10-24-2003, 08:47 AM

Great posting, Brandon!

All I know is, New Orleans regularly hosts geek conferences. Next one that I'm aware of- I'm hooking up with some fine young lady geek, getting her drunk at Cat's Meow and then pumping her for all the latest techno-stuff coming down the pipeline.

In the meantime, I'll just quietly bookmark this for future reference...

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fiveyes

In the meantime, I'll just quietly bookmark this for future reference...

why? so you can start your own Intellectual Properties company?

Fight the Patent!

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fiveyes
at Cat's Meow and then pumping her for all the latest techno-stuff coming down the pipeline.

Before you start to license her, make sure you do some prior art checking...... you don't know where her patents have been.

Fight the Patent!

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce

People who have seen my posts know I am reasonable and not overly emotional but this situation disgusts me so thoroughly I can barely express it.

You did do a great job of expressing yourself.

Fight the Patent!

fiveyes · 10-24-2003, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent

Before you start to license her, make sure you do some prior art checking...... you don't know where her patents have been.

Fight the Patent!

Not to worry, I always check for viruses before opening attachments or pumping geeks. I just have to keep i mind that a "Trojan" isn't a good thing under those circumstances.

Suckitbitch · 10-24-2003, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent
8) Don't bother thinking that I might want to join your company (had one company already ask). While I am very technically skilled with some business savvy, I would rather give up all my technological innovations, turn my computer off, disconnect from the internet, and go do some woodworking, rather than see patent abuse stifle innovation and financially drain companies.

Refer them to me. I would be glad to file their scam patents and scare all the keyboard warriors and industry flopdicks.

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Suckitbitch

Refer them to me. I would be glad to file their scam patents and scare all the keyboard warriors and industry flopdicks.

I believe that Acacia already has some adult industry insiders hired as consultants, but they may be looking for more since in their 3Q conference call, they announced their business model of having companies loan them their patents so they could go out and collect licensing fees and split them with companies.

You can send your resume to: http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/contact_main.htm

Job Position: Bogus Patent License Salesman

I know it's a tough economy so good luck with your efforts.

Fight the Patent!

Suckitbitch · 10-24-2003, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent
I believe that Acacia already has some adult industry insiders hired as consultants, but they may be looking for more since in their 3Q conference call, they announced their business model of having companies loan them their patents so they could go out and collect licensing fees and split them with companies.

You can send your resume to: http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/contact_main.htm

Job Position: Bogus Patent License Salesman

I know it's a tough economy so good luck with your efforts.

I'd like to work on something a little more fresh with some new innovative patent scheme companies. I don't think Acacia will be able to keep paying me once the shit hits the fan.

12clicks · 10-24-2003, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Also I am curious what did holio do to get it thrown out and why that has nt become the model. Also fight the patent if your big thing is fighting the patent why werent you celebrating that victory in the boards?

What happends to this cottage industry if its discovered that you can beat acacia on your own?

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Suckitbitch

I'd like to work on something a little more fresh with some new innovative patent scheme companies. I don't think Acacia will be able to keep paying me once the shit hits the fan.

Then send your resume to Idea Flood.

Besides having a patent for 'exit consoles', they have tons of patent-pending applications at:

http://www.ideaflood.com/apps.asp

Maybe you might find something in the list that attracts you that you feel many webmasters would be infringing upon, once/if the patent application gets approved.

Fight the Patent!

Suckitbitch · 10-24-2003, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent
Then send your resume to Idea Flood.

Besides having a patent for 'exit consoles', they have tons of patent-pending applications at:

http://www.ideaflood.com/apps.asp

Maybe you might find something in the list that attracts you that you feel many webmasters would be infringing upon, once/if the patent application gets approved.

Did they find a buyer for their patent #6,389,458 ?

Reminds me of amazon try to patent affiliate programs. If they can't pull it off no one else can.

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Suckitbitch

Did they find a buyer for their patent #6,389,458 ?

I only know what you read in their press releases... shows they were shopping since the beginning of the year.... who knows, maybe already have a deal, and they will come out swinging next year, after InterNext, or maybe launching at InterNext.

Get your resume in quick if you want to get in on being a Sales Licensing Leech..... maybe could make Assistant Manager or Manager if your numbers look good

Fight the Patent!

FightThisPatent · 10-31-2003, 09:34 AM

FightThisPatent · 11-10-2003, 07:59 AM

May 6th article/interview with Brian Shuster and his popup/console patents (well written and lots of info):

http://www.msnbc.com/news/909754.asp?0ql=c9p&cp1=1

If Brian did create innovative and novel ideas for web marketing, more power to him! Patents are a way to protect intellectual property.

My efforts and those of the proposed Fight the Patent Foundation are not anti-patent. Patent Abuse, to me, is where a patent that has been broadly interpreted beyond the original scope is used to force companies to license it. If prior art is found, then it's a bad patent, and therefore deserves to be invalidated.

If no prior art can be found, then it's a good patent...and the patent holder is entitled to the benefits of their invention.

Fight the Abuse!

10-24-2003, 07:40 AM	#1
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	Attention Patent Holders If you have a patent and are thinking about coming into the adult industry to "convince" people to license your patent, I have some observations and comments for you (for those that are satire-challenged, this is a satire): 1) It won't matter what your patent actually means, what will scare webmasters it what you WANT your patent to mean. Just point out how you SAY they are infringing, show them a patent application and a license fee, and they will most likely believe you. You don't have to be right. Take advantage of Patent and Civil Law where they are guilty until proven innocent.... and as you know, only a court will be able to make that decision. 2) There is no community. Don't worry about the big players looking out for the smaller players.. just get sweetheart deals with them so you can parade their name around town. You can make so much more money by getting a mass number of webmasters to pay you a smaller amount, then to get a few big players to pay you a large amount. 3) Don't try to go after large mainstream companies or universities, you will only get yourself in to a huge court battle with people who have deeper pockets. Pick on the targets that make enough money to pay for a nice car and a nice house and who spend their time on GFY posting how great they are. 4) Don't charge alot of money or do any percentages of GROSS revenue.. That's just a bad idea.. make the fee structure simple like if you make less than $300K/year, the fee for the license is like $1000. Over $300K, charge $2000. $1000 is cheaper than 3-5 hours of attorney time and a low enough threshold that they will just pay you the money to be done with it. Think about it.. 10,000 websites giving you $1,000/year = $10M/year all for doing nothing but sending out information/infringement packets. You already know how to do spam, just print it this time and mail it. I bet you will see higher then 1:500 conversions. 5) Don't worry about people like me who are trying to bring awareness to patent abuse. While I am trying to help defend people's right to do business, free of any bad patent (a bad patent is one where the idea or invention was in use before the patent), I am being criticized and bashed for my efforts. Don't worry about my Fight the Patent Foundation idea, just look at the pledge counter below.. i am open enough to display the total, and as you can tell, I am far off from reaching the total. The big players could contribute to the Foundation, since I am not focused on just one patent abuse case, but most likely they will just continue with their business and deal with people like you on a case-by-case basis. Anyone who tries to get webmasters to contribute to a fund to band together gets seen as some kind of "scam artist" or a fraud. Even organizations that have been setup by fellow webmasters like IMPA have trouble getting webmasters to donate/become members. By making a sweetheart deal with some big players, you could actually get people who admire those companies to actually bash anyone who tries to fight against your patent. Some of these people will have good credibility with the webmasters that others will automatically think that they must be right, so they too should take up the bashing. It's a brilliant strategy to help silence and defeat any effort that tries to go against you. 6) Don't worry about the 11 defendants that are standing up to Acacia... they will get burnt out financially from the expenses of their defense. They will also be jaded by the lack of industry support and will most likely not be standing up to fight against the next attack. Think about it.. paying like $15K-$50K each for defense, could pay your $1,000 license easily, for 15-50 years! 7) Go after everyone up the chain from web designers, web hosts, webmasters, content producers, domain registrars, etc. Target everyone.... you never know what will stick til you throw it on the wall. Even send out letters to webmasters who are in no way infringing on your INTERPRETED patent... they may just pay you anyways. 8) Don't bother thinking that I might want to join your company (had one company already ask). While I am very technically skilled with some business savvy, I would rather give up all my technological innovations, turn my computer off, disconnect from the internet, and go do some woodworking, rather than see patent abuse stifle innovation and financially drain companies. 9) The webmasters won't read this whole post, it's way too long for them.. anything longer than a 1 sentence jab is too much for them, so don't worry about me posting this in a public forum, they won't be reading it. 10) Use Affiliate progams as easy ways of getting mailing addresses of people to target. Maybe offer some stock to these companies. I know you think that's harsh, why bite the hand that feeds you? If you can get them sweetheart deal, maybe give them some stock, and keep it all confidential, then it's all good. Sure, it may suck that the people who helped make them successful get hit with the license. They know it takes money to make money, so this low-cost patent license is just another cost of doing business. If they can't afford the $1,000/year, then they just aren't doing something right. Afterall, the sponsor worked so hard to build up their business, they know what it takes. Summary: You have picked a great target in selecting the Adult Industry.. Berman from Acacia said it best, they are "low hanging fruit". Just follow along with the Acacia news, study their methods and you will have a blueprint for your own plans. The only problem that I think you may have, is that other people already have similar ideas of targeting webmasters for patents. If too many patent licenses come out at the same time, you could end up really pissing people off, and then they would join together (when that happens, i'll be long gone after my fingers have gone stiff from all the emails and posts trying to get support, from my voice going scratchy in all the phone calls in helping to bring awareness, and by the bruises I take for being bashed in defending people's rights). Better that you join forces with the other patent players (just don't make it public because that could be an antitust issue) and schedule/time your efforts. Maybe like 1 per quarter.. spread out the schedule so you put things in rotation and then you won't hurt your individual efforts in leeching money from these hard working webmasters. Just when their wound starts to heal from the previous patent attack, you hit them with another. ------------ This is a satirical post. If you did not laugh at the end, then you would have realized that "truth is said in jest". Everyone of these points you can see is going on right now (minus some stuff I made up for this fictional story). If you want to take a stand against patent abuse, join me in my solution and my fight at http://www.FightThePatent.com/go If you don't like my solution, come up with a better one. I will join it if you can come up with a better way. Just wait a little longer... the fictional story above will be come a real one. -brandon __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

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10-31-2003, 09:34 AM	#29
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11-10-2003, 07:59 AM	#30
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	May 6th article/interview with Brian Shuster and his popup/console patents (well written and lots of info): http://www.msnbc.com/news/909754.asp?0ql=c9p&cp1=1 If Brian did create innovative and novel ideas for web marketing, more power to him! Patents are a way to protect intellectual property. My efforts and those of the proposed Fight the Patent Foundation are not anti-patent. Patent Abuse, to me, is where a patent that has been broadly interpreted beyond the original scope is used to force companies to license it. If prior art is found, then it's a bad patent, and therefore deserves to be invalidated. If no prior art can be found, then it's a good patent...and the patent holder is entitled to the benefits of their invention. Fight the Abuse! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

10-24-2003, 07:44 AM	#2
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	I have a comment on #2. Not only do scam patent poachers not have to worry about the community looking out for itself, they can count on members of the community actively stabbing each other in the back. Witness all those, "I got my Acacia packet addressed to a name I only use with sponsors," or, "only use with one place" threads. Fuckers. Die, die, die, rot. People who have seen my posts know I am reasonable and not overly emotional but this situation disgusts me so thoroughly I can barely express it. SpaceAce

10-24-2003, 07:47 AM	#4
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	you forgot 12: "people will not have any confidence in someone that displays great plans but prefers to remain anonymous.."

10-24-2003, 07:56 AM	#9
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	It does hit home but thats the way adult webmasters are . lol My wife and I were talking yesterday, if Acacia had made it a flat rate like visa instead of we are now your business partner. I think it would just become one of those things you have to pay to be in business. When you start talking percentages of gross and we can audit your books, it makes people less responsive. Also I am curious what did holio do to get it thrown out and why that has nt become the model. Also fight the patent if your big thing is fighting the patent why werent you celebrating that victory in the boards?

10-24-2003, 08:01 AM	#12
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	one more suggestion and im really trying to be constructive: you said it yourself "if a post is longer than x lines people dont read". Why dont you learn from that and try to keep people sharp and on topic by posting a bit less and stopping the information overflow. Considering all the info and huge posts youve made lately you cant blame anyone not keeping on track. Keep things more compact and i think better results are on its way.