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Old 11-05-2003, 12:12 AM   #1
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adtrackplus.com - SHAVE FUNCTION

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The shave option is under /Settings/System/



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uh oh.

Just a note.. PornDollar uses the CoolWebStats system..

You get every single Raw / Unique / Sale that you send.

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LOL! Now which sponsors are using this software?

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I guess this will be a long thread, so let me just say that I hate all you fucking people. Thanx
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Amazing all the rumors that companies actually do shave are true.

Have you contacted the smoking gun yet on this?

This might even make 60 minutes!

Let me tell you a secret. There are more scammy webmasters than there are scammy sponsors.
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MPA 2 has the same thing
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LOL! Now which sponsors are using this software?

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I wonder what other popular affiliate softwares have a shaving feature built in
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Old 11-05-2003, 12:18 AM   #10
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MPA 2 has the same thing
from what I understand, MPA does not have one built in as a standard, but it is a optional ad on, right?
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I wonder what other popular affiliate softwares have a shaving feature built in
i'm sure this is a rhetorical question.
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well isn't this nice
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LOL! Now which sponsors are using this software?

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from what I understand, MPA does not have one built in as a standard, but it is a optional ad on, right?
It was build in on the one I used
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from what I understand, MPA does not have one built in as a standard, but it is a optional ad on, right?
wrong.
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You can't get 70$ per signup, a new car every 50 signups and no shave !
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Old 11-05-2003, 12:33 AM   #19
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Software does not shave people shave..
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Old 11-05-2003, 12:34 AM   #21
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i promote most of the sponsors out there and i have never seen an affiliate stats page looking anything similar to it. It must be a new script or rarely used. Someone should mail them asking for sponsor testimonials hehe
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Old 11-05-2003, 12:40 AM   #23
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i promote most of the sponsors out there and i have never seen an affiliate stats page looking anything similar to it. It must be a new script or rarely used. Someone should mail them asking for sponsor testimonials hehe
Well, it could mean that templates system is also a great feature of adtrackplus
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Old 11-05-2003, 12:42 AM   #24
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Old 11-05-2003, 12:43 AM   #25
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lol i missed this option
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Don't act all surprised, and don't blame this software company either. It's been happening since the pay per click days of adult webmastering. Most sponsors have custom scripts to do it that are probably light years advanced than this one, to try and fool the affiliates into thinking there isn't a shave going on. But sponsors have to shave to keep up with offering high payouts and still being able to cover all of their bills and profit margins. Deal with it.
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software only shaves when the people that are running it tell it to.

a shave could be good in some circumstances. example: a sponsor gives free BP hosting, but at a cost of 10% of your sales? bad example maybe but what the fuck? there is good in everything.
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my lawyer thinks we can sue multipile sponsers.
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I would agree.
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wow an option to turn your business into a federal crime business, the people that made the stats program is dumb for doing that.. that can be a major lawsuit, shaving commisions from your employe's is like a federal crime i think
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uh oh.

Just a note.. PornDollar uses the CoolWebStats system..

You get every single Raw / Unique / Sale that you send.

Is it me or E-V-E-R-Y fuckin time shave is mentionned in a thread the first thing you do is spam your shit right away?
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Someone alert Acacia.

Berman won't be happy about getting shaved out of his 2%.
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wow an option to turn your business into a federal crime business, the people that made the stats program is dumb for doing that.. that can be a major lawsuit, shaving commisions from your employe's is like a federal crime i think
Not unless you catch them red handed shaving it off. All they have to show is that the shave has a legal function
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LOL, we are not employees, we would be at best freelance or subcontractors.

How many of you would quit using your favorite sponsor cause someone posted a screenshot like that of their control panel?

Everyone knows there's always some shaving in play, it's something you need to accept, and move on. The bottom line is who makes you the most per click you send to them. IF sponsor A makes you 6 cents a click and sponsor B makes you 3 cents a click but you find out Sponsor A is shaving 10%, you gonna switch to sponsor B? Cmon..
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Is it me or E-V-E-R-Y fuckin time shave is mentionned in a thread the first thing you do is spam your shit right away?

This is quite simple.

We don't jack around webmasters traffic.

I don't know about you.. But when I send traffic to someone, I would like to know exactly what I'm sending. Instead I have to investigate and wondering where the click is being counted. (if at all)

But if you had a 20k+ investment in your backend just to have the most honest and respectiable webmaster ad tracking in the biz like I do.. Then Hell Yeah!, I'm going to mention it every chance I get.

PD webmasters know that the traffic / sales they send I 100% accounted for.
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Old 11-05-2003, 02:32 AM   #39
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Nothing new....almost each and every affiliate software comes
either default or as plugin with somekind of shave system.
The simple reason why is because webmasters want this in a
system when they buy it. It's a cold hard fact. I've looked at quite
a few different programs before I bought mine and I have not
come accross 1 that does not already has this feature standard
built in or is available as an extra option.

Developers don't come up with this shit. It's webmasters who
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wary of ANY webmaster that claims otherwise. Most systems have
the feature it's up to the program owner wether they use it or not

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If that was my software, i wouldnt be using that word shave.
That just seems WAY too obvious to me.
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just getting a front page sig spot . . . . not exactly news that there is software with this feature is it?
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If that was my software, i wouldnt be using that word shave.
That just seems WAY too obvious to me.
No that makes it quite obvious allthough more programs use the
term shave, other terms are correction ratio, decrease or trim

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If that was my software, i wouldnt be using that word shave.
That just seems WAY too obvious to me.
So something like "Periodical Impression Acquisition"?
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You'd think the software could be a little less blunt and use a "code" word! I'm curious as to who is using this particular software.
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So something like "Periodical Impression Acquisition"?
i would call it the "shrinkage factor"
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You'd think the software could be a little less blunt and use a "code" word! I'm curious as to who is using this particular software.
Doesn't make a whole lot of difference what they call it, the effect is the same and this is far from the first time similar facilities in affiliate software have been exposed.

As long as we keep asking to take it in the ass, it's naive to imagine there won't be plenty willing to oblige.
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