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Old 10-30-2003, 08:47 PM   #1
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Anyone from Montreal get a letter from Acacia?

I just got mine today, and I thinking of consulting a lawyer about it. Anyone from Montreal liked to join in?
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Old 10-30-2003, 08:48 PM   #2
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not yet. not me.
im sure there will be ppl very interested in doing this.
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Old 10-30-2003, 10:10 PM   #3
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I haven't signed up to Matrix... so no letter... yet.

I pretty much stay " in house" and anonymous, but keep us posted. Can still help even without a letter...

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I just got mine today, and I thinking of consulting a lawyer about it. Anyone from Montreal liked to join in?
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Dug you hang with some pretty interesting characters to say the least! Hehe!

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Old 10-31-2003, 02:19 AM   #6
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Alex.....if you got it today, I'll probably get mine tomorrow.
Once I have it in hand, I'll see my lawyer (it's free for me) and give you feedback.
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Old 10-31-2003, 02:24 AM   #7
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I haven't, but I'm not much into videos, just a little so it might take a while before I get one.
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Old 10-31-2003, 02:28 AM   #9
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Old 10-31-2003, 06:57 AM   #10
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Who or what is Acacia?

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Old 10-31-2003, 07:07 AM   #11
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I haven't, but I'm not much into videos, just a little so it might take a while before I get one.
I don't do videos also, I've got a few TGP (no MGP) and lots of feeders with no videos!
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yes but keep in mind that if your sponsor has videos or you trade with a site that links to video galleries, acacia considers you contributing to patent infringement.

my partner in montreal got one yesterday, btw.
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Old 10-31-2003, 07:11 AM   #13
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Alex.....if you got it today, I'll probably get mine tomorrow.
Once I have it in hand, I'll see my lawyer (it's free for me) and give you feedback.
Cool I'll wait a week or two. I was thinking of going after Acacia for harassment or extorsion.
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Hey im from Montreal too and havent recieved anything, BUT i did hear that domains that are behind proxies usually are more safe, and maybe this is why? Is it true?
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Did I do wrong or say something funny?

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Old 10-31-2003, 07:52 AM   #18
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Trixxxia - if you could post what the lawyer tells you then that would be great
i did not get anthing from matrix, must have been on another list
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Hey im from Montreal too and havent recieved anything, BUT i did hear that domains that are behind proxies usually are more safe, and maybe this is why? Is it true?
I don't think it has to do with domains being behind proxies. If your name is listed on Matrix Content (I presume), then you should get a Letter from Acacia.
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They don't own a patent in Canada...

http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/patents.htm
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just got mine today...


I'm wondering about a couple things.... I think us in quebec should get together for some advice and then act accordingly...


I heard someone mention law 101.... since we're in Quebec, I believe by law they are obligated to translate anything in French, right?

also, how do we defend about the fact they have no pattent in Canada?
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If there is no patent in canada why Platinumbucks (Ontario) bought a liscence?
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If there is no patent in canada why Platinumbucks (Ontario) bought a liscence?
Most big sponsors out there have a corporation based in the states, probably Nevada
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Cool I'll wait a week or two. I was thinking of going after Acacia for harassment or extorsion.
Send them a letter asking them to settle with you out of court and make a few bucks.
I'm still waiting for my letter.
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If there is no patent in canada why Platinumbucks (Ontario) bought a liscence?

Cause they have to process sales somehow and the only way is to have some sort of US corp so they are not 100% canadian business
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Yeah you're right. But if the patent is not valid anymore then platinumbucks will be screwed.
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Now has any Canadians recieved a real legal notice, that is another question.
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Now has any Canadians recieved a real legal notice, that is another question.
I believe Quiet has.
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What court are they trying to fight Canadian judgements in?
Since our laws are different in Canada, I wonder what we could take them to court for and also since Quebec has a differant court system, what their recourse can be.
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Got mine today, and a check from epoch for a video paysite I promote. How ironic.
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I think quiet must have some 'US presence' of some 'Grade 'A' researcher' read GFY and figured going after him would give him a Christmas bonus.

As expected, we got ours today. Those fuckers sent it to my domain name - which I'm fucking pissed for cuz the mailman now knows what type of business we're in (or maybe someone else got it and now knows) Called the lawyer....I'm seeing him monday - if I'm lucky he'll stop by tomorrow.

The other thing I'd like to know is if there are laws against mail spam - the law 101 is also a good point - they'll have to pay their lawyers extra bucks to translate every letter & action they take.

Anyhow...will give you feedback as soon as I get it.

I'm just wondering if they'll be allowed to demand it from Canadian companies if they are already getting it from the producers/distributors/paysite owners.......that's what....quadruple dipping??? I'm not sure if this is legal in Canada.

Anyhow........will be printing everything I found.....everything said and will have it with me.
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i dont think law 101 has anything to do with this. What you received is just an acacia sales letter. No legal paper.
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i dont think law 101 has anything to do with this..
Sure it does. In Quebec you need to get the permission to the sender before sending him an English only document (and it be stated in the document in the you resuested it in English), or much include a French of it (and not just a brief summary of the English version).
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We can disregard their mail since we only understand legal documents in french.
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We've gotten several of their "sales pitches". So far no actual legal documents.
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I think quiet must have some 'US presence' of some 'Grade 'A' researcher' read GFY and figured going after him would give him a Christmas bonus.
He processes in the UK and resides in Canada. Might have hosting in the US but that's about it. With minimal presence in the US, they don't have many legal options to come after him in my opinion, but I'm not a lawyer so who knows...

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We've gotten several of their "sales pitches". So far no actual legal documents.
Please let me know if they actually do serve you guys legal papers. I would definitely be interested in seeing what grounds they make their claims on.

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He processes in the UK and resides in Canada. Might have hosting in the US but that's about it. With minimal presence in the US, they don't have many legal options to come after him in my opinion, but I'm not a lawyer so who knows...

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Perhaps it's his content producers (if he buys from someone in the states)

If not, I'd be interested to know if he's ever took (<---wtf did I write) taken a shopping tour at Matrix.

Maybe it really is the Researcher out for a bonus that found him. (probably from jerking off at his site)

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If not, I'd be interested to know if he's ever took (<---wtf did I write) taken a shopping tour at Matrix.
Never been a customer of Matrix nor used my info at AVN expo's and they still got my info. And none of my domains have my direct mailing address so it sounds like their researchers aren't that bad.

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Actually wasn't there someone on here a few weeks ago wanting to sell webmaster lists? Going to go look for that post.
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Found it, it was some time in September I wonder who he sold it to....
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I think we should also send a copy of Acadia's letter to the "Office québécois de la langue française" and complaining that we got an English only document...if there are enough complaints, they will investigate this matter.
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I think we should also send a copy of Acadia's letter to the "Office québécois de la langue française" and complaining that we got an English only document...if there are enough complaints, they will investigate this matter.
Very good idea, maybe they will start to do some legal research.
Nothing in my mailbox today.
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I just got mine today, and I thinking of consulting a lawyer about it. Anyone from Montreal liked to join in?

I might be interested, i am in Toronto, Ontario though but still a canadian none the less.. I wonder if the quebec/ontario thing would make an issue though
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I think we should also send a copy of Acadia's letter to the "Office québécois de la langue française" and complaining that we got an English only document...if there are enough complaints, they will investigate this matter.
What would this do other than make them hire a translator and send you two versions instead?

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Je me demande bien à quoi sert tous vos blah blah dans le vide.

Tu recherches des gens du Quebec afin de s'unifier et former une coallition légale contre ACACIA... je t'ai donné mon ICQ et tu n'es même pas foutu de communiquer avec moi.

Ça s'annonce bien !
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Je me demande bien à quoi sert tous vos blah blah dans le vide.

Tu recherches des gens du Quebec afin de s'unifier et former une coallition légale contre ACACIA... je t'ai donné mon ICQ et tu n'es même pas foutu de communiquer avec moi.

Ça s'annonce bien !
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Alex from Montreal - i think that is a GREAT idea :-)

do it - keep them busy in more than one country. if they're going to send such things to canada, they should have sent them in french.

my partner is writing to ask for a french translation already but i'll recommend he do this, also.

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