Do you believe in the death penalty? - GoFuckYourself.com

johnny_ricebone · 11-25-2003, 07:18 AM

I know this is like beating a dead horse but given the circumstances (Muhammad/Malvo). The morning show that I listen to this morning brought the point that it would be worse for Muhammad to rot in jail the rest of his life instead of sending him to his maker. So what do you think?

xdcdave · 11-25-2003, 07:19 AM

death penalty gives people the peace of mind that he is never getting back out into society. for that, i'm all for it.

keyDet79 · 11-25-2003, 07:25 AM

Death is not really a punishment.. Would you care if you're dead? Maybe only during the time you wait for it.

johnny_ricebone · 11-25-2003, 07:25 AM

Someone else said, "How dare he turn me into a murderer. Now we have to deal with this on our conscious."

Spunky · 11-25-2003, 07:26 AM

I wish our country had the balls to have the death penalty.

Candice · 11-25-2003, 07:31 AM

I'm all for the death penalty, I just wish more people would think about that when they are murdering other human beings. Besides, I'm from Texas, of course I support it!!!

cluck · 11-25-2003, 07:37 AM

I'm a hardcore lefty and I'm all for street justice, death included

rooster · 11-25-2003, 07:38 AM

I agree with it, but im sure a bunch of europeans will chime in and say otherwise.

I found a article http://washingtontimes.com/world/200...0833-1781r.htm

Pretty much what I say alot, the european mindset is dangerous imo and sad that our neighbors to the north want to be like that.

SlutFinder · 11-25-2003, 07:38 AM

Goatse · 11-25-2003, 07:39 AM

I'm all for it. In fact, I wish we could put people to death for merely being blithering idiots.

chodadog · 11-25-2003, 07:40 AM

Take a look at someone like Richard Ramirez. Oh yes, i am all for the death penalty.

kmanrox · 11-25-2003, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by xdcdave
death penalty gives people the peace of mind that he is never getting back out into society. for that, i'm all for it.

i agree, wholeheartedly =)

johnny_ricebone · 11-25-2003, 07:42 AM

So no one believes that it would be worse for this guy to get gang banged in the clink for the rest of his life?

Antic · 11-25-2003, 07:46 AM

When you can prove that someone is guilty to 100%, yes.
If its only 99.9%, no.

myjah · 11-25-2003, 08:12 AM

definitely believe in it. i don't want to have to pay to feed, clothe, shelter, and provide medical attention to a murderer.

SR · 11-25-2003, 08:14 AM

johnny_ricebone · 11-25-2003, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by SR
No.

So you wouldn't put Malvo or Muhammad to death for what they did? What if it was onr of your loved ones that were a victim?

Goatse · 11-25-2003, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by johnny_ricebone
So no one believes that it would be worse for this guy to get gang banged in the clink for the rest of his life?

Who knows, maybe he would enjoy it.

Lane · 11-25-2003, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by johnny_ricebone

So you wouldn't put Malvo or Muhammad to death for what they did? What if it was onr of your loved ones that were a victim?

revenge vs. punishment

apples and oranges

Lane · 11-25-2003, 08:37 AM

have you seen "life of david gale"?

even if one innocent person ever was executed with this justice system, it is an unacceptable tolerance for the death penalty to exist. try not to be so narrowminded and don't look at this situation on a case by case basis.

ThunderBalls · 11-25-2003, 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
I agree with it, but im sure a bunch of europeans will chime in and say otherwise.

I found a article http://washingtontimes.com/world/200...0833-1781r.htm

Pretty much what I say alot, the european mindset is dangerous imo and sad that our neighbors to the north want to be like that.

Christ you're a fucking idiot.

People like you would use lethal injection on a convicted rapist but wouldn't let the woman he raped have an abortion.

Fuck off.

Rochard · 11-25-2003, 08:56 AM

Many, many years ago I was attacked by three people and nearly beat to death. I was in the hospital for three months.

Every year I get a nice letter reminding me that these three people are up for parole. And every year I write back and remind the legal system exactly what these people did to me.

Putting these three to death would have been too good for them. Instead, I'd rather have them rot in jail where every day when they get their salad tossed they are reminded of what they did to me.

sperbonzo · 11-25-2003, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls

Christ you're a fucking idiot.

People like you would use lethal injection on a convicted rapist but wouldn't let the woman he raped have an abortion.

Fuck off.

How do you figure that? I totally agree with that article (I've seen it first hand), and what the hell does it have to do with what you're talking about?

johnny_ricebone · 11-25-2003, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by Lane
have you seen "life of david gale"?

even if one innocent person ever was executed with this justice system, it is an unacceptable tolerance for the death penalty to exist. try not to be so narrowminded and don't look at this situation on a case by case basis.

Its kind of tough not to be narrowminded about this topic. Especially if it was someone close to you. I wasn't affected by the shootings but passion is running high with this case.

Theo · 11-25-2003, 09:03 AM

I'm against death penalty.

loverboy · 11-25-2003, 09:06 AM

if it's a mean of putting down the crime rate why not
impose it to the highest degree?

crime incidents in our place is high even the cops are
involved in drug trafficking and bank robberies. death
penalty is temporarily put to hold coz of some religious
sector not in favor of death penalty? if Christ was put
to death without any crime commited, how about those
bastards who are convicted of henious crimes?

Rocky · 11-25-2003, 09:08 AM

so many people over the years on death row were found innocent

i am totally against the death penalty

bill555 · 11-25-2003, 09:11 AM

We need bring back the electric chair, hanging and firing squad.

The only pushishment with injection, is the time you have to wait till its done.

I mean do these murderers really care there getting to get pricked by a needle and and go to sleep? Its like putting a kitty to sleep.

Its easy to be against the death penalty. All i can say is . What would you think if your mother got raped and killed? you would want to kill the man yourself,but would settle for the government to do it.

NBDesign · 11-25-2003, 09:14 AM

Hell no... life in prison is far worse than death... hey, once you die, your suffering is over... life in prison and being ass rapped on a daily basis is far worse than death.

Let these fuckers rot...

loverboy · 11-25-2003, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by Antic
When you can prove that someone is guilty to 100%, yes.
If its only 99.9%, no.

you really cannot determine nor the prosecution
can come up with a solid evidence that can convict
a suspect to a crime 100% unless he voluntarily admits.

come on, wake up in the real world where the jury
answers only Guilty or Not Guilty.

johnny_ricebone · 11-25-2003, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign
Hell no... life in prison is far worse than death... hey, once you die, your suffering is over... life in prison and being ass rapped on a daily basis is far worse than death.

Let these fuckers rot...

Some people were saying that killing these people was like "saving" them. they believe that they were put on the earth do what they did and by killing them it is a way of "freeing them". That is the only way I think I would let one of these bastards rot in jail.

Furious_Female · 11-25-2003, 09:17 AM

I'm for the death penalty. Eye for an eye. However, I hope they are convicted beyond a reasonable doubt... it would be horrible for someone innocent to be put to death, but it would be even worse to do a life sentence, knowing you are innocent.

If someone kills someone or more than one person, they should pay with their own life. It may not make up for them taking the life of someone else, but why should we all be forced to pay taxes to keep them alive in prison? Rehabilitation is a fuckin joke. Maybe for thieves, drug dealers etc... murder? No that's in your blood.

They get way too many years to appeal shit too. 10 years extra to rot in jail while the victim's families linger with grief.

fuzebox · 11-25-2003, 09:19 AM

I don't think anyone should have the ability to choose if someone else lives or dies... But that makes handling convicted murderers/rapists/etc difficult, so instead I would propose to make prisons harsh. Stop wasting money on inmate's comfort. Throw convicted murderers into a dark hole where they can sit and eat slime and shit for the next 50 years, and not cost taxpayers too much.

Up here in Canada inmates are happy when they make it into Club Fed... You get go study in the prison library, earn a degree, golf, watch TV, etc, all on the taxpayer's bill. Fucking bullshit.

TheJimmy · 11-25-2003, 09:20 AM

I only believe in the death penalty for murderers, rapists and politicians...

NBDesign · 11-25-2003, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female
I'm for the death penalty. Eye for an eye.

Eye for an eye would be great... If you are going to put someone to death... fuck these sissy methods... I say that the person should die in the same fashion that they killed their victim.... let them experience what they put that person through.

NBDesign · 11-25-2003, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by TheJimmy
I only believe in the death penalty for murderers, rapists and politicians...

Don't forget lawyers lol

Theo · 11-25-2003, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female
I'm for the death penalty. Eye for an eye.

would you kill someone yourself instead having the legal system done it for you?

eroswebmaster · 11-25-2003, 09:30 AM

The way things are now I am against the death penalty.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for revenge...LOL

It's been proven time and time again that our justice system is anything but infallible and in a lot of cases prejudicial as well as slanted in the government's favor.

Too many people have been found to be innocent in recent years of many crimes and serving differnet forms of punishment up to and including being on death row that should make anyone question whether or not we as "evolved" beings should continue this practice.

Even in cases where we think there is irrefutable evidence that the person is guilty there is always room for doubt. Maybe not in their innocence, but in the belief that we can judge with 100% certainty that we can make the ultimate decision to take their life.

Science may be exact, but there is always a human behind that science. And with humans there will always be emotions and motives and with that there will always be room for errors whether they be in actions or judgements, accidental or on purpose.

So no, I am not "for the death penalty."

TheJimmy · 11-25-2003, 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign
Don't forget lawyers lol

oh HELL YEH!!!
--they kinda fall in that pre-politician role...

it cracks me up when I see shit on tv or hear some propaganda about 'whores, sluts, porno is evil, etc'

and yet politicians and lawyers make DVDA, Houston 500, Bukkake and Fishooks look like clean family entertainment in comparison....

TheJimmy · 11-25-2003, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

would you kill someone yourself instead having the legal system done it for you?

if someone killed anyone in my family I would...

personally I like the Islamic tradition on that, give the family the 1st dibs on the head/chopping on Friday afternoon...

I'm down with that...

Goatse · 11-25-2003, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
would you kill someone yourself instead having the legal system done it for you?

If I could get away with it, sure.

TheEnforcer · 11-25-2003, 09:39 AM

Nope. The government never should take away what it can't give back.

Furious_Female · 11-25-2003, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

would you kill someone yourself instead having the legal system done it for you?

If they killed someone I loved and it was legal for me to flick the switch or put the injections in them, yes. I have no pity for anyone that hurts people I love.

To the above question, I think they should be made to suffer the same miserable death that the victims did.

I also think drunk drivers that kill people are murderers and should be eligible for the death penalty. Sometimes I think that's the worst and most cruel types of way to kill an innocent person because it's just complete carelessness.

Theo · 11-25-2003, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by TheJimmy

if someone killed anyone in my family I would...

personally I like the Islamic tradition on that, give the family the 1st dibs on the head/chopping on Friday afternoon...

I'm down with that...

Would you do that if you didn't see it yourself, but you had enough evidences according to you about who's the killer?

TheJimmy · 11-25-2003, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

Would you do that if you didn't see it yourself, but you had enough evidences according to you about who's the killer?

if there was good evidence and 2 witnesses, you betcha...

if it was lacking in evidence or witnesses, I'd have to reconsider...

I believe in good 'breeding' and 'weeding'...

weed out of our gene-pool murderers and rapists...we are smart enough to do it with animals...why not in the human race?

sometimes we're so kind we're stupid...

eroswebmaster · 11-25-2003, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

would you kill someone yourself instead having the legal system done it for you?

I said that I was against the death penalty but all for revenge

If the government executes an "innocent" person there really is no one to be held responsible.

If I kill an innocent or guilty person who I think is responsible for a loved ones death then I can and will be held responsible.

Now to really answer your question...if someone were to kill a loved one I honestly don't know how I would handle it unless it was one of my nieces.

If someone were to take their life I would not kill them...however I would probably let them live but would instead kill as many people they cared about that I could before I got caught.

They would know 10x's the pain me or my family would be suffering before it's all over with.

MeatAxe · 11-25-2003, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

Would you do that if you didn't see it yourself, but you had enough evidences according to you about who's the killer?

Yep i would certainly....

Theo · 11-25-2003, 09:52 AM

So according to the history of legal systems you could have killed an innocent as well.

Would you handle the truth after some time if you find out you killed an innocent? What would you tell to his/her parents after that? I'm sorry,it was a mistake?

NBDesign · 11-25-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
So according to the history of legal systems you could have killed an innocent as well.

Would you handle the truth after some time if you find out you killed an innocent? What would you tell to his/her parents after that? I'm sorry,it was a mistake?

The same way they do it now....

eroswebmaster · 11-25-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
So according to the history of legal systems you could have killed an innocent as well.

Would you handle the truth after some time if you find out you killed an innocent? What would you tell to his/her parents after that? I'm sorry,it was a mistake?

The difference is if I killed for revenge regardless of whether or not I found out the person was not the killer I would have admitted my guilt...so either way I would be punished for my crimes.

11-25-2003, 07:18 AM	#1
johnny_ricebone Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MN Posts: 83	Do you believe in the death penalty? I know this is like beating a dead horse but given the circumstances (Muhammad/Malvo). The morning show that I listen to this morning brought the point that it would be worse for Muhammad to rot in jail the rest of his life instead of sending him to his maker. So what do you think?

11-25-2003, 07:19 AM	#2
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11-25-2003, 07:26 AM	#5
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11-25-2003, 07:31 AM	#6
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11-25-2003, 07:38 AM	#8
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	I agree with it, but im sure a bunch of europeans will chime in and say otherwise. I found a article http://washingtontimes.com/world/200...0833-1781r.htm Pretty much what I say alot, the european mindset is dangerous imo and sad that our neighbors to the north want to be like that. Last edited by rooster; 11-25-2003 at 07:40 AM..

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11-25-2003, 07:39 AM	#10
Goatse Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,086	I'm all for it. In fact, I wish we could put people to death for merely being blithering idiots.

11-25-2003, 07:40 AM	#11
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Take a look at someone like Richard Ramirez. Oh yes, i am all for the death penalty. __________________ 26 + 6 = 1

11-25-2003, 07:42 AM	#13
johnny_ricebone Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MN Posts: 83	So no one believes that it would be worse for this guy to get gang banged in the clink for the rest of his life?

11-25-2003, 07:46 AM	#14
Antic Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 53	When you can prove that someone is guilty to 100%, yes. If its only 99.9%, no.

11-25-2003, 08:12 AM	#15
myjah Back in the harbor Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 11,482	definitely believe in it. i don't want to have to pay to feed, clothe, shelter, and provide medical attention to a murderer. __________________ VP of Marketing AVN Media Network Skype: AVNJill [email protected]

11-25-2003, 08:14 AM	#16
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	No.

11-25-2003, 08:37 AM	#20
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	have you seen "life of david gale"? even if one innocent person ever was executed with this justice system, it is an unacceptable tolerance for the death penalty to exist. try not to be so narrowminded and don't look at this situation on a case by case basis. __________________

11-25-2003, 08:56 AM	#22
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11-25-2003, 09:03 AM	#25
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I'm against death penalty.

11-25-2003, 09:06 AM	#26
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	if it's a mean of putting down the crime rate why not impose it to the highest degree? crime incidents in our place is high even the cops are involved in drug trafficking and bank robberies. death penalty is temporarily put to hold coz of some religious sector not in favor of death penalty? if Christ was put to death without any crime commited, how about those bastards who are convicted of henious crimes?

11-25-2003, 09:08 AM	#27
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11-25-2003, 09:11 AM	#28
bill555 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 101	We need bring back the electric chair, hanging and firing squad. The only pushishment with injection, is the time you have to wait till its done. I mean do these murderers really care there getting to get pricked by a needle and and go to sleep? Its like putting a kitty to sleep. Its easy to be against the death penalty. All i can say is . What would you think if your mother got raped and killed? you would want to kill the man yourself,but would settle for the government to do it.

11-25-2003, 09:14 AM	#29
NBDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell Posts: 5,814	Hell no... life in prison is far worse than death... hey, once you die, your suffering is over... life in prison and being ass rapped on a daily basis is far worse than death. Let these fuckers rot... __________________ Use Lensman's program and get the most for your hard earned traffic. Get Heidi for your site Here. Lots of sets to choose from. She makes a great Addition to any site. Grab one Grab All.

11-25-2003, 09:17 AM	#32
Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	I'm for the death penalty. Eye for an eye. However, I hope they are convicted beyond a reasonable doubt... it would be horrible for someone innocent to be put to death, but it would be even worse to do a life sentence, knowing you are innocent. If someone kills someone or more than one person, they should pay with their own life. It may not make up for them taking the life of someone else, but why should we all be forced to pay taxes to keep them alive in prison? Rehabilitation is a fuckin joke. Maybe for thieves, drug dealers etc... murder? No that's in your blood. They get way too many years to appeal shit too. 10 years extra to rot in jail while the victim's families linger with grief. __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

11-25-2003, 09:19 AM	#33
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,114	I don't think anyone should have the ability to choose if someone else lives or dies... But that makes handling convicted murderers/rapists/etc difficult, so instead I would propose to make prisons harsh. Stop wasting money on inmate's comfort. Throw convicted murderers into a dark hole where they can sit and eat slime and shit for the next 50 years, and not cost taxpayers too much. Up here in Canada inmates are happy when they make it into Club Fed... You get go study in the prison library, earn a degree, golf, watch TV, etc, all on the taxpayer's bill. Fucking bullshit.

11-25-2003, 09:20 AM	#34
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11-25-2003, 09:30 AM	#38
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	The way things are now I am against the death penalty. Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for revenge...LOL It's been proven time and time again that our justice system is anything but infallible and in a lot of cases prejudicial as well as slanted in the government's favor. Too many people have been found to be innocent in recent years of many crimes and serving differnet forms of punishment up to and including being on death row that should make anyone question whether or not we as "evolved" beings should continue this practice. Even in cases where we think there is irrefutable evidence that the person is guilty there is always room for doubt. Maybe not in their innocence, but in the belief that we can judge with 100% certainty that we can make the ultimate decision to take their life. Science may be exact, but there is always a human behind that science. And with humans there will always be emotions and motives and with that there will always be room for errors whether they be in actions or judgements, accidental or on purpose. So no, I am not "for the death penalty." __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details Last edited by eroswebmaster; 11-25-2003 at 09:33 AM..

11-25-2003, 09:39 AM	#42
TheEnforcer Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,855	Nope. The government never should take away what it can't give back. __________________ Hit me up below for all your advertising needs!

11-25-2003, 09:52 AM	#48
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	So according to the history of legal systems you could have killed an innocent as well. Would you handle the truth after some time if you find out you killed an innocent? What would you tell to his/her parents after that? I'm sorry,it was a mistake?