How to convert SE Traffic - GoFuckYourself.com

Superion · 11-01-2003, 02:11 PM

Hey guys.

According to my sponsers stats it seems like i can't convert SE traffic ;)

Atm what i'm doing is getting the traffic into an enter page and the enter is to the sponser with my affiliate id.

Thing is that i'm having alot of sales but the convertion rates are Very bad, they are bad for a TGP traffic even, and those is pure SE Traffic, mostly from google.

I would like to hear suggestions from other that dealing with big amounts of SE Traffic.

What is the best, enter page, automatic forwarding, a gallery, host the tour, etc...

Btw, please don't contact me on icq, because i'm not online on it atm.

You could leave your icq or e-mail me / post on the thread about you would like to discuss that matter with me and exchange knowledge.

Thanks.

DarkJedi · 11-01-2003, 02:12 PM

change the sponsor.

Juicy D. Links · 11-01-2003, 02:13 PM

Hit me up 116999839 for some knowledge

4Pics · 11-01-2003, 02:14 PM

Depends on Sponsor, Search Engine and a few other variables.

Hit me up on icq (5051691) if you want some help.

Juicy D. Links · 11-01-2003, 02:15 PM

Use this below to send all SE hits to a landing page to filter them to a sponsor of your choice

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*yahoo.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*google.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*msn.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*dogpile.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*altavista.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*lycos.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*webcrawler.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*overture.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*metacrawler.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*ask.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*infoseek.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*excite.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*bianca.*$
RewriteRule /* http://putyourlandingorfpahere.com [R,L]

Superion · 11-01-2003, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
Use this below to send all SE hits to a landing page to filter them to a sponsor of your choice

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*yahoo.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*google.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*msn.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*dogpile.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*altavista.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*lycos.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*webcrawler.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*overture.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*metacrawler.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*ask.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*infoseek.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*excite.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.*bianca.*$
RewriteRule /* http://putyourlandingorfpahere.com [R,L]

Well, it won't really help, because 90% of my SE traffic is google and yahoo ;)

Superion · 11-01-2003, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
change the sponsor.

I tried alot of sponsers, some converting better than the others, but basicly, i think that i can get X2 or maybe even X3 better convertion rates if i change someting on the way that i'm sending that traffic to the sponser.

DarkJedi · 11-01-2003, 02:19 PM

juicy, i'll make his sites baned

Juicy D. Links · 11-01-2003, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superion

Well, it won't really help, because 90% of my SE traffic is google and yahoo ;)

Yes it will it will send all your yahoo and google hits to a landingpage and from there you can route them to what they like

DarkJedi · 11-01-2003, 02:21 PM

msg me - icq 30144710
i'll teach you a few tricks

Stud Money · 11-01-2003, 02:52 PM

Using Search Engine traffic to send hits to you sponsor is worthless if you are getting hits for terms such as 'Free Porn', 'Free Sex' etc etc.

Especially if you are sending them to a paysite.

Target the keywords you are receiving the traffic from to a paysite or free access site and that should improve your ratios.

WiredGuy · 11-01-2003, 03:46 PM

There's sooo many factors involved, its not simply getting listed, you need to filter it accurately. Use geo-redirects if needed, identify what the surfer is looking for based on the keyword and much more.

WG

DarkJedi · 11-01-2003, 03:53 PM

i talked to him on ICQ.

it seems that he runs some paysites that get SE traffic and dont convert.

klik · 11-01-2003, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stud Money
Using Search Engine traffic to send hits to you sponsor is worthless if you are getting hits for terms such as 'Free Porn', 'Free Sex' etc etc.

Especially if you are sending them to a paysite.

Target the keywords you are receiving the traffic from to a paysite or free access site and that should improve your ratios.

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
There's sooo many factors involved, its not simply getting listed, you need to filter it accurately. Use geo-redirects if needed, identify what the surfer is looking for based on the keyword and much more.

WG

this about sums it up.

Stud Money · 11-01-2003, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by klik

this about sums it up.

Thanks

Terenzo · 11-02-2003, 02:13 AM

google traffic converts badly lately. the reason is that google traffic is international while the big paysites want to get us-surfers only. especially those programs paying you $40 per sale, want to aquire us-customers not only targeted to upsell porn to them. and since they only will be able to cover $40 with the us-customers they will not like foreign traffic unless it is rebilling (but fuck, who rebills longer than a month?).

to get proof, simply start 2 similar adword campaings 1 targeted to us traffic and one targeted to international traffic. you ll see the results.

WiredGuy · 11-02-2003, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Terenzo
to get proof, simply start 2 similar adword campaings 1 targeted to us traffic and one targeted to international traffic. you ll see the results.

That is a good test. If you do get free google traffic, make sure to geo-redirect it if your sending it to sponsors that don't pay you for foreign hits.

WG

eldominik · 11-02-2003, 04:14 AM

So only US/CA traffic converts?

Paul · 11-02-2003, 04:49 AM

Quote:

So only US/CA traffic converts?

ALL traffic converts, its just traffic from the US converts better than the others usually but that also depends on many factors

iwantchixx · 11-02-2003, 04:52 AM

Quote:

[i]

Atm what i'm doing is getting the traffic into an enter page and the enter is to the sponser with my affiliate id.

Thanks. [/B]

Doing it this way I hella blind. SE traffic or not, this will inflate numbers. Try filtering it to get a real estimate of conversions. From the enter page go to a main page with lots of juicy text using header tags of various sizes and have like maybe 1 or 2 pics on html pages. Load it up with ads. make them interested.. blindlink the big pics to sponsor. On the main page be creative but make the focus on text ads and banners, make it sound like they are about to enter the best site with the best quality pics and/or movies. Don't use thumbs linking to the 1 or 2 free pics. Use default sized text.

Also, your goal here is to get them clicking ads not "enter" links on the warning page so keep that in mind for the warning page.

petepete · 11-02-2003, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eldominik
So only US/CA traffic converts?

Thanks God no...

Alessandro · 11-02-2003, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Terenzo
..... but fuck, who rebills longer than a month?

My members do

PoOoOOooOoo! · 12-02-2003, 03:30 AM

johnbosh · 12-02-2003, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alessandro

My members do

sacX · 12-02-2003, 03:43 AM

Read the referrer redirect to different sponsors based on keywords in the referrer.

Get GeoIP and filter appropriately. Some countries will perform better to dialers, some to paysites etc.

get statsremote.. that way you can try sponsors quickly and see $$$ earned easily.. Forget conversions look at your total $ for the day etc...and calculate money on uniques that went through your server (don't trust sponsor conversion #'s).

hrm also could probably filter by browser language for some stuff. I have some favourite japanese language programs.. that's not necessarily a winner in the SE case though because presumably their query was in english.

11-01-2003, 02:11 PM	#1
Superion Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 84	How to convert SE Traffic Hey guys. According to my sponsers stats it seems like i can't convert SE traffic ;) Atm what i'm doing is getting the traffic into an enter page and the enter is to the sponser with my affiliate id. Thing is that i'm having alot of sales but the convertion rates are Very bad, they are bad for a TGP traffic even, and those is pure SE Traffic, mostly from google. I would like to hear suggestions from other that dealing with big amounts of SE Traffic. What is the best, enter page, automatic forwarding, a gallery, host the tour, etc... Btw, please don't contact me on icq, because i'm not online on it atm. You could leave your icq or e-mail me / post on the thread about you would like to discuss that matter with me and exchange knowledge. Thanks.

11-01-2003, 03:46 PM	#12
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,469	There's sooo many factors involved, its not simply getting listed, you need to filter it accurately. Use geo-redirects if needed, identify what the surfer is looking for based on the keyword and much more. WG __________________ I play with Google.

11-01-2003, 02:12 PM	#2
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	change the sponsor.

11-01-2003, 02:13 PM	#3
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Hit me up 116999839 for some knowledge

11-01-2003, 02:14 PM	#4
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	Depends on Sponsor, Search Engine and a few other variables. Hit me up on icq (5051691) if you want some help.

11-01-2003, 02:15 PM	#5
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Use this below to send all SE hits to a landing page to filter them to a sponsor of your choice RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.yahoo.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.google.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.msn.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.dogpile.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.altavista.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.lycos.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.webcrawler.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.overture.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.metacrawler.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.ask.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.infoseek.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.excite.$ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^.bianca.$ RewriteRule /* http://putyourlandingorfpahere.com [R,L]

11-01-2003, 02:19 PM	#8
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	juicy, i'll make his sites baned

11-01-2003, 02:21 PM	#10
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	msg me - icq 30144710 i'll teach you a few tricks

11-01-2003, 02:52 PM	#11
Stud Money So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere between my monitor and my chair Posts: 3,214	Using Search Engine traffic to send hits to you sponsor is worthless if you are getting hits for terms such as 'Free Porn', 'Free Sex' etc etc. Especially if you are sending them to a paysite. Target the keywords you are receiving the traffic from to a paysite or free access site and that should improve your ratios.

11-01-2003, 03:53 PM	#13
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	i talked to him on ICQ. it seems that he runs some paysites that get SE traffic and dont convert.

11-02-2003, 02:13 AM	#16
Terenzo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 971	google traffic converts badly lately. the reason is that google traffic is international while the big paysites want to get us-surfers only. especially those programs paying you $40 per sale, want to aquire us-customers not only targeted to upsell porn to them. and since they only will be able to cover $40 with the us-customers they will not like foreign traffic unless it is rebilling (but fuck, who rebills longer than a month?). to get proof, simply start 2 similar adword campaings 1 targeted to us traffic and one targeted to international traffic. you ll see the results.

11-02-2003, 04:14 AM	#18
eldominik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: EU Posts: 454	So only US/CA traffic converts?

12-02-2003, 03:30 AM	#23
PoOoOOooOoo! So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 65

12-02-2003, 03:43 AM	#25
sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	Read the referrer redirect to different sponsors based on keywords in the referrer. Get GeoIP and filter appropriately. Some countries will perform better to dialers, some to paysites etc. get statsremote.. that way you can try sponsors quickly and see $$$ earned easily.. Forget conversions look at your total $ for the day etc...and calculate money on uniques that went through your server (don't trust sponsor conversion #'s). hrm also could probably filter by browser language for some stuff. I have some favourite japanese language programs.. that's not necessarily a winner in the SE case though because presumably their query was in english.