It's not looking good for matrix - GoFuckYourself.com

xanx · 10-30-2003, 11:45 PM

A few years ago I had an idea for a site and was told to check out matrix content because there style of content was in line with the type of site I was looking to create. I signed up with them and for a company name I used a name that I thought I liked and would go with when I got settled and up and running.

I lost interest in the idea and forgot all about until today. Guess what, today I get my packet with that company name right under my actual name. That company does not exist.. It was only used to fill in a blank with Matrix.. Their database is at least one source of where Acacia is getting names from without a doubt.

Matrix if you claim that this information was taken illegally and without your consent you need to get your attorney's to file motions for them to release where they got there information from. You need to get affidavits and have them sent to myself and the others here who know for sure it's your DB.

That is if you didn't have anything to do with it getting sent to them which I half suspect you did.

Stud Money · 10-30-2003, 11:47 PM

When the case actually ends up in front of a judge wont this all go to discovery?

That is when we will finally see where Acacia has been getting their information

lil2rich4u2 · 10-30-2003, 11:48 PM

god damnit, i thought this was gonna be about revolutions, lol

MetaformX · 10-31-2003, 12:32 AM

the evidence mounts

SpaceAce · 10-31-2003, 12:42 AM

I got my Matricacia package today, too.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=192057

SpaceAce

Mr.Fiction · 10-31-2003, 12:53 AM

Matrix, the guy in the first post seems to be offering to sign an affidavit. There are others here as well.

You have enough proof to file a lawsuit and ask for an order forcing Acacia to stop using the list and stop contacting your customers.

You have enough proof.

Will you act?

xmovieparad · 10-31-2003, 02:59 AM

matrix gave them my details too and im certain..got my acacia package today addressed to a name only used under matrix registration..

Trax · 10-31-2003, 03:04 AM

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Originally posted by xmovieparad
matrix gave them my details too and im certain..got my acacia package today addressed to a name only used under matrix registration..

just like the 100 guys before...

lock · 10-31-2003, 03:14 AM

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Originally posted by Trax

just like the 100 guys before...

thats why the finger is pointed

KRL · 10-31-2003, 04:14 AM

If Norm won't accept the reality here that his database has been used, either knowingly or unknowling there is something not right with that.

The fact that we're not being promptly informed of what actions Matrix is taking in regards to this makes the situation even more murky.

If Matrix doesn't take action soon, they are setting themselves up for civil suits from webmasters at this rate, since California law provides us with that legal protection.

The further this continues without bold action the harder it is to believe it happened unknowingly.

SpikeHeel · 10-31-2003, 04:28 AM

I suspect that there is a link with this and the Acacia package I got too. More angry with myself than anything for giving my details in the first place. A lesson learned that will not be repeated.

FightThisPatent · 10-31-2003, 06:37 AM

I have been sitting back on this subject because I realize how people can get into a frenzy and jump on the point-fingers-bandwagon... but I have spoken with too many webmasters who say that based on the way the letter was addressed, that it is clear in their mind it was Matrix.

Where there is smoke, there is fire.

The smoke is the use of Matrix database.. the fire is the persons involved...... Norm may just be the escape-goat, someone who is "falling down on his sword"....

From my observations of situations where people are manipulating things behind the scenes.... don't be quick to judge what is put out before you as the cuplrit, it could just be another part of the smoke-screen.

Fight the Conspiracies!

basschick · 10-31-2003, 07:32 AM

FightThisPatent, if matrix gave out our information, which i would hate a lot, they should be honest. there are too many typos and things unique to the matrix database for norman to shake off.

they may not be the main bad guy - i realize acacia is - but some people who felt they had no choice to sign did so without giving up their customers.

if matrix didn't give us up, they didn't make a public announcement that they have turned the matter out to law enforcement to find out how that info got out while getting a court date against acacia against using stolen information. that being the case, whether it's a smoke screen are not, there are issues besides acacia - like honesty, communication and the way people do business.

one way or another, we were violated and matrix is not taking care of us. they're trying to put blame on registrars who don't have the same info as we're receiving on the letters. considering they could easily have let us browse their content without taking our personal info, the people who registered with matrix deserve much much better.

posh rat in hell · 10-31-2003, 08:41 AM

I got a packet from acacia, I've never done any business with matrix.
I think Acacia may be using matrix's list, but i think they have other sources too...

Digipimp · 10-31-2003, 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
If Norm won't accept the reality here that his database has been used, either knowingly or unknowling there is something not right with that.

The fact that we're not being promptly informed of what actions Matrix is taking in regards to this makes the situation even more murky.

If Matrix doesn't take action soon, they are setting themselves up for civil suits from webmasters at this rate, since California law provides us with that legal protection.

The further this continues without bold action the harder it is to believe it happened unknowingly.

Hey bro you know as well as I do that they know and they are knowingly handing it all over and lying about it. We've seen people who just register names in the last week or so receive mailers to those who did it a couple years ago. If someone was handing over a database they stole they wouldn't be able to keep getting up to date information unless Matrix was allowing access to it still. They're fucking everyone and lying about it.

WiredGuy · 10-31-2003, 08:52 AM

The plot thickens...
WG

BrentD · 10-31-2003, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
If Norm won't accept the reality here that his database has been used, either knowingly or unknowling there is something not right with that.

The fact that we're not being promptly informed of what actions Matrix is taking in regards to this makes the situation even more murky.

If Matrix doesn't take action soon, they are setting themselves up for civil suits from webmasters at this rate, since California law provides us with that legal protection.

The further this continues without bold action the harder it is to believe it happened unknowingly.

WAMF!!!!

Webmasters Against Matrix Fund

KRL · 10-31-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp

Hey bro you know as well as I do that they know and they are knowingly handing it all over and lying about it. We've seen people who just register names in the last week or so receive mailers to those who did it a couple years ago. If someone was handing over a database they stole they wouldn't be able to keep getting up to date information unless Matrix was allowing access to it still. They're fucking everyone and lying about it.

People do stupid things when they are in a spot. I know I sense that is what probably happened here. But since none of us can know for 100% sure how it was obtained we shouldn't convict until all the details and evidence are displayed.

I think for most people, they've never had a problem with Matrix until this event, so overall I still have to give some consideration to that fact. And sometimes, like I've said in other posts, you have to judge the amount of fucking you've gotten from a company. If you get fucked by someone when they are in challenging circumstances, and you've done satisfactory business with them before over the years, everything has to be weighed into your final decision whether or not to ever do biz again with them. I don't believe in hanging someone because of a single fuckup. We're all guilty of that.

TrafficWizard · 10-31-2003, 09:57 AM

wow

so did it actually come from matrix?

LeeNoga · 10-31-2003, 10:01 AM

I would be more concerned with the next step with Acacia and not so much how you got collared and hence received a packet.

Fight this patent! Pledges welcomed, I mean its your career you know.

Markit · 10-31-2003, 11:05 AM

time for a Matrix content blowout

xanx · 10-31-2003, 11:15 AM

Matrix has enough people who I'm sure are willing to sign an affidavit that says the info came from them. If I were matrix I would be doing that plus more to prove my company had nothing to do with it. Just my

Tippy · 10-31-2003, 11:20 AM

I was with a Company for about a year, they fucked me once which was reason enough to look elsewhere, there are so many other options out there, why put up with it or risk the chance that you will get fucked again, if they did it once the chance of it happening again look good.

Mike

unconnected · 10-31-2003, 11:56 AM

Matrix will NOT take this to court as I have a sneaking suspicion that their DB was not stolen, but given freely as part of a settlement deal..

FUCK EM ALL!!! Burn in hell you fuckers..

10-30-2003, 11:45 PM	#1
xanx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,711	It's not looking good for matrix A few years ago I had an idea for a site and was told to check out matrix content because there style of content was in line with the type of site I was looking to create. I signed up with them and for a company name I used a name that I thought I liked and would go with when I got settled and up and running. I lost interest in the idea and forgot all about until today. Guess what, today I get my packet with that company name right under my actual name. That company does not exist.. It was only used to fill in a blank with Matrix.. Their database is at least one source of where Acacia is getting names from without a doubt. Matrix if you claim that this information was taken illegally and without your consent you need to get your attorney's to file motions for them to release where they got there information from. You need to get affidavits and have them sent to myself and the others here who know for sure it's your DB. That is if you didn't have anything to do with it getting sent to them which I half suspect you did.

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10-31-2003, 04:14 AM	#10
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	If Norm won't accept the reality here that his database has been used, either knowingly or unknowling there is something not right with that. The fact that we're not being promptly informed of what actions Matrix is taking in regards to this makes the situation even more murky. If Matrix doesn't take action soon, they are setting themselves up for civil suits from webmasters at this rate, since California law provides us with that legal protection. The further this continues without bold action the harder it is to believe it happened unknowingly. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

10-31-2003, 04:28 AM	#11
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10-30-2003, 11:47 PM	#2
Stud Money So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere between my monitor and my chair Posts: 3,214	When the case actually ends up in front of a judge wont this all go to discovery? That is when we will finally see where Acacia has been getting their information

10-31-2003, 12:42 AM	#5
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	I got my Matricacia package today, too. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=192057 SpaceAce

10-31-2003, 12:53 AM	#6
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Matrix, the guy in the first post seems to be offering to sign an affidavit. There are others here as well. You have enough proof to file a lawsuit and ask for an order forcing Acacia to stop using the list and stop contacting your customers. You have enough proof. Will you act?

10-31-2003, 02:59 AM	#7
xmovieparad Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 181	matrix gave them my details too and im certain..got my acacia package today addressed to a name only used under matrix registration..

10-31-2003, 06:37 AM	#12
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	I have been sitting back on this subject because I realize how people can get into a frenzy and jump on the point-fingers-bandwagon... but I have spoken with too many webmasters who say that based on the way the letter was addressed, that it is clear in their mind it was Matrix. Where there is smoke, there is fire. The smoke is the use of Matrix database.. the fire is the persons involved...... Norm may just be the escape-goat, someone who is "falling down on his sword".... From my observations of situations where people are manipulating things behind the scenes.... don't be quick to judge what is put out before you as the cuplrit, it could just be another part of the smoke-screen. Fight the Conspiracies! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

10-31-2003, 07:32 AM	#13
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	FightThisPatent, if matrix gave out our information, which i would hate a lot, they should be honest. there are too many typos and things unique to the matrix database for norman to shake off. they may not be the main bad guy - i realize acacia is - but some people who felt they had no choice to sign did so without giving up their customers. if matrix didn't give us up, they didn't make a public announcement that they have turned the matter out to law enforcement to find out how that info got out while getting a court date against acacia against using stolen information. that being the case, whether it's a smoke screen are not, there are issues besides acacia - like honesty, communication and the way people do business. one way or another, we were violated and matrix is not taking care of us. they're trying to put blame on registrars who don't have the same info as we're receiving on the letters. considering they could easily have let us browse their content without taking our personal info, the people who registered with matrix deserve much much better. __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

10-31-2003, 08:41 AM	#14
posh rat in hell Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 403	I got a packet from acacia, I've never done any business with matrix. I think Acacia may be using matrix's list, but i think they have other sources too...

10-31-2003, 08:52 AM	#16
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	The plot thickens... WG __________________ I play with Google.

10-31-2003, 09:57 AM	#19
TrafficWizard Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 57	wow so did it actually come from matrix? __________________ [email protected] icq 310-805-676

10-31-2003, 10:01 AM	#20
LeeNoga Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Egg & Sperm Mutation Posts: 3,043	I would be more concerned with the next step with Acacia and not so much how you got collared and hence received a packet. Fight this patent! Pledges welcomed, I mean its your career you know.

10-31-2003, 11:05 AM	#21
Markit Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,305	time for a Matrix content blowout __________________

10-31-2003, 11:15 AM	#22
xanx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,711	Matrix has enough people who I'm sure are willing to sign an affidavit that says the info came from them. If I were matrix I would be doing that plus more to prove my company had nothing to do with it. Just my

10-31-2003, 11:20 AM	#23
Tippy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,772	I was with a Company for about a year, they fucked me once which was reason enough to look elsewhere, there are so many other options out there, why put up with it or risk the chance that you will get fucked again, if they did it once the chance of it happening again look good. Mike

10-31-2003, 11:56 AM	#24
unconnected Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,025	Matrix will NOT take this to court as I have a sneaking suspicion that their DB was not stolen, but given freely as part of a settlement deal.. FUCK EM ALL!!! Burn in hell you fuckers.. __________________ "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989