ALERT! Webmaster email campaign to sponsors & billing companies for answers?.. - GoFuckYourself.com

Bladewire · 10-29-2003, 01:18 AM

Copy the email below and send it to all of your sponsors and billing companies. Those who do good business will answer your email. Those that don?t might have something to hide.
Our sponsors and billing companies are our friends and business partners? this email is not adversarial.. it?s an open communication so you know the parameters that the companies you do business work within.

Copy below---------------------------------

Dear (fill in the blank)

Due to recent concerns regarding Acacia and the leaking of private information I need answers to each of the following questions as soon as possible:

1) In the terms of our contract are you allowed to give my personal information to a third party?

2) Have you given my personal information to a third party in any way, ever? If so, when?

3) If you have given my personal information to a third party why? Who did you give it to?

4) If you have given my personal information to a third party I request contact information for the third party.

5) Have you asked Acacia if they are using your customer list?

I value your business and enjoy working with you. Thank you for your help.

Best Regards ~

(fill in the blank)

End copy -----------------------------------------------------

I think it?s important for each of you to have official answers from each of your sponsors and billing companies on what is happening with your private information. If you ever do go to court, you can use the responses from these entities in the discovery process.

I would suggest not doing business with companies that do not respond to this email. Their silence on GFY and other boards has been deafening. This email should help peg those still hiding under a rock. Good luck and post your responses in this thread so we all know who is sending responses and who is remaining silent.

KRL · 10-29-2003, 01:21 AM

Just cause someone fucks you over doesn't mean you have to stop doing business with them.

Money is money. I do business with lots of people that I'd rather not, but their shit sells and at the end of the day, whether I like you or not, trust you or not, if you fill my cash register, we might not like each other, but if we can make money together, fuck it let's do it.

Bladewire · 10-29-2003, 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
Just cause someone fucks you over doesn't mean you have to stop doing business with them.

Money is money. I do business with lots of people that I'd rather not, but their shit sells and at the end of the day, whether I like you or not, trust you or not, if you fill my cash register, we might not like each other, but if we can make money together, fuck it let's do it.

I guess we see things differently.

If someone gave my personal information to Acacia and made me susceptible to a lawsuit, they are costing me more money then necessary. If they can sell me out this way, then they most likely are shaving my sales and taking even MORE money from me.

Integrity is important in any business. If someone is going to sell you out to Acacia.. they've probably already been taking advantage of you without your knowledge, and will continue to screw you.

In the long run, you are losing more then you are making and it's not cost effective to maintain the business relationship.

KRL · 10-29-2003, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by Squirtit

I guess we see things differently.

If someone gave my personal information to Acacia and made me susceptible to a lawsuit, they are costing me more money then necessary. If they can sell me out this way, then they most likely are shaving my sales and taking even MORE money from me.

Integrity is important in any business. If someone is going to sell you out to Acacia.. they've probably already been taking advantage of you without your knowledge, and will continue to screw you.

In the long run, you are losing more then you are making and it's not cost effective to maintain the business relationship.

If webmasters in this industry ever got a full accounting of how much money they've been cheated out of, no one would do business with anyone then.

Bladewire · 10-29-2003, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by KRL

If webmasters in this industry ever got a full accounting of how much money they've been cheated out of, no one would do business with anyone then.

Believe it or not there are people in this industry that have built a reputation based on honesty and integrity. Not everyone rips everyone else off.

Do you have sponsors or a billing company? Have you sent the above email to them for answers? Have they responded?

It's important for us to weed out the slime that have been hinding under a rock all this time so we have a better idea of who the bad guy really is.

Morgan · 10-29-2003, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Just cause someone fucks you over doesn't mean you have to stop doing business with them.

Money is money. I do business with lots of people that I'd rather not, but their shit sells and at the end of the day, whether I like you or not, trust you or not, if you fill my cash register, we might not like each other, but if we can make money together, fuck it let's do it.

HarlotCash Dyker · 10-29-2003, 01:42 AM

I don't agree with KRL - Unfortunately he is probably right and most webmasters will take that view.

I certainly would not consider doing business with the likes of Matrix again, or any other company (including sponsors) that abused my personal details.

Bladewire · 10-29-2003, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
I don't agree with KRL - Unfortunately he is probably right and most webmasters will take that view.

I certainly would not consider doing business with the likes of Matrix again, or any other company (including sponsors) that abused my personal details.

Any company that gave out your details should at least admit to it. Have you sent out the email above to get answers? You will not get answers speculating.

Take action.

Bladewire · 10-29-2003, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by Ganjasaurus

Bladewire · 10-29-2003, 02:03 AM

62 reads and not one reply saying they've sent the letter.

corvette · 10-29-2003, 08:15 AM

If anybody is wondering, I thought that I post this as a preemptive matter?

CCBill will not release any client or customer personal subscriber information, nor client or customer billing information, to any third party except upon presentation of a valid court order, or request to which CCBill is legally required to respond to. Client agrees that CCBill?s judgment as to the validity of any court order, subpoena, or request shall be considered proper and final.

http://businesscenter.ccbill.com/html_forms/aupt.html

JFPdude · 10-29-2003, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by corvett
If anybody is wondering, I thought that I post this as a preemptive matter?

CCBill will not release any client or customer personal subscriber information, nor client or customer billing information, to any third party except upon presentation of a valid court order, or request to which CCBill is legally required to respond to. Client agrees that CCBill?s judgment as to the validity of any court order, subpoena, or request shall be considered proper and final.

http://businesscenter.ccbill.com/html_forms/aupt.html

There's one billing companies response.

10-29-2003, 01:18 AM	#1
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	ALERT! Webmaster email campaign to sponsors & billing companies for answers?.. Copy the email below and send it to all of your sponsors and billing companies. Those who do good business will answer your email. Those that don?t might have something to hide. Our sponsors and billing companies are our friends and business partners? this email is not adversarial.. it?s an open communication so you know the parameters that the companies you do business work within. Copy below--------------------------------- Dear (fill in the blank) Due to recent concerns regarding Acacia and the leaking of private information I need answers to each of the following questions as soon as possible: 1) In the terms of our contract are you allowed to give my personal information to a third party? 2) Have you given my personal information to a third party in any way, ever? If so, when? 3) If you have given my personal information to a third party why? Who did you give it to? 4) If you have given my personal information to a third party I request contact information for the third party. 5) Have you asked Acacia if they are using your customer list? I value your business and enjoy working with you. Thank you for your help. Best Regards ~ (fill in the blank) End copy ----------------------------------------------------- I think it?s important for each of you to have official answers from each of your sponsors and billing companies on what is happening with your private information. If you ever do go to court, you can use the responses from these entities in the discovery process. I would suggest not doing business with companies that do not respond to this email. Their silence on GFY and other boards has been deafening. This email should help peg those still hiding under a rock. Good luck and post your responses in this thread so we all know who is sending responses and who is remaining silent. __________________ Skype: CallTomNow

10-29-2003, 01:21 AM	#2
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Just cause someone fucks you over doesn't mean you have to stop doing business with them. Money is money. I do business with lots of people that I'd rather not, but their shit sells and at the end of the day, whether I like you or not, trust you or not, if you fill my cash register, we might not like each other, but if we can make money together, fuck it let's do it. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

10-29-2003, 01:42 AM	#7
HarlotCash Dyker Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: At a whorehouse near you Posts: 1,828	I don't agree with KRL - Unfortunately he is probably right and most webmasters will take that view. I certainly would not consider doing business with the likes of Matrix again, or any other company (including sponsors) that abused my personal details. __________________ !!!Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash!!!

10-29-2003, 02:03 AM	#10
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	62 reads and not one reply saying they've sent the letter. __________________ Skype: CallTomNow

10-29-2003, 08:15 AM	#11
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	If anybody is wondering, I thought that I post this as a preemptive matter? CCBill will not release any client or customer personal subscriber information, nor client or customer billing information, to any third party except upon presentation of a valid court order, or request to which CCBill is legally required to respond to. Client agrees that CCBill?s judgment as to the validity of any court order, subpoena, or request shall be considered proper and final. http://businesscenter.ccbill.com/html_forms/aupt.html __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP