Pix Masters has never required email's to view its content.

I think matrix content is doomed:1orglaugh

sweet

Chrétien said it best when questioned about matrix.


"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."


:thumbsup Canada Rules!

The mail sorter's job is so repetitious that after awhile they have lot of the names memorized.

My brother got a letter from my grandparents last year that just had his name ,city and zip code on it

I smell fire.

could be the hills and canyons outside.

either way, shits burning.

:glugglug

Jayman is not the type of person to make something like this up and Rich is even smart enough to know that if he came here posting false info he could get sued so why would he do that. Fuck you Matrix and fuck your partners in crime Acacia.

And yes I just said something about matrix, you gonna sue me for my opinion, go right ahead, now I see why your working so closely with Acacia, because your both law suit happy. I will dance in the streets the day Matrix content goes out of business for making the stupidest business decision ever.

Power to the People
Fight the Patten
FUCK MATRIX CONTENT!!

No! Not again!!

Hmm that statement wasnt too good. Why use terms like Go Fuck Youself and Payback is a bitch on wheels? Are those legal terms that would look good in court?

BTW wouldnt it be libel if its whats written down on here?

As someone else suggested in another thread I think that a cease & desist letter from Matrix would *seriously* help them save some face, whereas if they dont......

Irrespective of whether Matrix gave them access to their database or not, mud sticks and people can draw their own conclusions.

Now Im not sure who danced in the streets before but this will be a first for me. I reserve dancing for special occasions...lol

:ugone2far



Mike..............

Hi Everyone,

Wow this is really interesting stuff and I must say it does look rather clear cut to be honest. From what Jay posted on NP I would have to believe you 100%, with this other proof that's up here on GFY well in my opinion that's just the icing on the cake. I doubt that any webmaster will ever consider purchasing content again from Matrix now or in the future. It's a shame that this has to happen in a way as their content is of the highest quality but....again we are a community and all value the help we give each other. Shopping fellow webmasters has got to be one of the worst offences known to this industry. Matrix have a share of the market where contents concerned but......not for long, looks like these will be another content company to bite the dust, it's totally unexpected but well deserved if true and I am sure your all agree it does certainly look that way.

I am happy that I have always picked content from http://www.focusadult.com over Matrix the only reason was value for money. At least anyone looking for content of this high quality now has a much better reason to go elsewhere focus has got to be the new Matrix on the block now.


Danny )))

All things Acacia posted in one place:

FTP's Acacia FAQ:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=190214



Fight the Patent!

Am I missing something, or did Matrix's comment disappear from this thread, except as quoted by Rich?

Anyway, it seems to me that Matrix is suggesting Rich changed his Matrix account info to match the address to which Acacia mailed the letter. If that's true, then apparently Matrix has access to their database, and it seems to me they could avoid damage to their own reputation, and trash Rich's reputation, by showing the log of the changes Rich made. I'm suspicious of Matrix just from this posting:

1) They aren't refuting this in a convincing manner by posting their logs, when it would be pretty easy, and to their great benefit...in my opinion.

2) Their "This will be my final post and statement on this board" seems like the sort of thing that a person would do if they were in serious denial or were tied up in a lie...in my opinion.

3) Their insistance for proof that will stand up in court, ignoring the preponderance of evidence already offered. They just seem too defensive about this...in my opinion. It could be weird coincidences and forged documents from liars that are being posted, but taking the body of evidence as a whole, and assuming most people are being honest, I think a compelling case could be made in court. Matrix seems to want some smoking gun, like a notarized letter from Acacia asserting "We stole Matrix's contact database. Warm regards, Acacia." It isn't going to happen. The best proof webmasters can offer is what they've already offered - peculiar/unique contact info that matches both Acacia's and Matrix's database.

One more trivial thing, in another thread someone thought Matrix's database wasn't used, because they spelled their company name with an "LLC", but Acacia's letter used "Llc." Based on Rich's posting, it looks like Acacia is running addresses through a "capitalize each first letter and lowercase the others," filter among other things. Maybe more Acacia letter recipients could confirm that.

is this the most interesting thread ever started by lil2rich?
id say so

:glugglug

I will NEVER buy matrix content!

FUCK YOU MATRIX! SELL OUT!

I thought its slander if its not the truth.

I think this is key here. They can accuse LilRich of changing details but what about all the other webmasters/webmistresses. And from what jaYMan says here this is not an old list it would appear from his situation that Acacia is getting frequent updates from the Matrix database. A few test sign ups may easily confirm this. Of course unless they were 100% clueless they may pull the plug on this little scheme now as the evidence builds up.

Either way its a bad situation. The Matrix response was nothing short of a cornered rats desparate attempt to survive. All the threats. Seriously ignorant.

Damn what a bunch of stupid fucks :mad:
Anyway, I think business for Matrixcontent will surely be more or less over...

It's not slander no matter what. Since it's in print, it's called libel.

100 letters to webmasters from Matrix's database.

100 :(
late.

102!


Thanks Rich!

103 - interesting thread

This same thing happened to me.

I got two Acacia letters, one was made out to my name, which was valid. Then two days later I get another one made out to my name and some weird company, TBG Inc. or something. So obviously at this point I'm thinking someone is giving out my info and I must have used a bullshit company name to signup somewhere.

I came on GFY that day and heard that people though Matrix was giving out info, so I went and logged into Matrix Content and saw that same company name, TBG Inc. (I've never used this company name anywhere else, it's not even my company name).

Fuck Matrix, I'll never buy shit from them again.

watch out, you will now be accused of changing your acct info after being cought violating copyrights!!!

:1orglaugh

Alright i was not going to post anything at all about this. As some of you know i used to work at Matrix for some time .. and this is not like them to do anything like this.. Although it sucks that you are all getting letters and shit... but the reality is this ... Acacia is after all of us wherever they got the information is irrelevant they are going to find you whether it is you home address, your P.O. Box, or your grandma's garage they are after everyone.

You should quit trying to figure it all out and try to help the guys that are fighting it any way that you can.

I got one and all i did is called them and said "I do not own a website at all" they said sorry we made a mistake and will take you off this list..

Quit yelling and screaming this and that and do something about Acacia. Hell there are a lot of things that you can do to help fight the patent. But be reminded as Spike has said. Until the patent is disproved you are still liable to pay them. Sux yeah. But it is the law until it is disproved.

I used to manage direct mail operations for several casinos, where part of my job was "standardizing" adresses and presorting the mail so that we can pay the cheapest bulk rates for the postage. Standardizing means converting words like "Street" into "St", appending the four digit zip code extension, and sometimes even doing the carrier routing.

In Richie's case, either the street doesn't exist in that zip code or that address is not in the range of addresses on that street. That's why the mailing software didn't put in a 9 digit zipcode for that address. The mailer has the choice of choosing a close match for the street name & sending it with the other bulk, or they could send the mail out as addressed at the full first class rate.

There is no guarantee that the mail will be delivered to the correct address, but a lot of times it will get figured out correctly.

:feels-hot

nothing to hide lil..yeah right :1orglaugh

I think you have something to hide

:)

say wha?

I have 100% proof of Matrix turning over their database to the nazis at Acacia!!!


Norman, you are a low life mother fucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hear Baghdad is nice this time of year.

I recieved either my 3rd or 4th letter from Acacia the otherday all sent to the address Matrix Content has of mine. Matrix is the ONLY one that has that address still. I know cuz I keep that particular address VERY secretive for personal reasons. Funny how Matrix is listed on that letter as one of the cooperating companies too!

Matrix (Rat bastards) have recieved their last business from me & I've been buyin' from them since their begining too.

And, of course, all Acacia letters have been filed to the round file.

Another bump for Lil2Rich & Matrix. If I get a letter too, say goodbye to business Matrix.

Matrix content shame :feels-hot

... as an actg shareholder I have to say, thank you very much matrix ... good fucking job !!!

btw: did you buy in yourself before handing over the database ??

You are defending your friends, not commenting on what is happening here.

It does matter who handed over the list. Would you do business with a company who sold your credit card to some kids in Eastern Europe?

Matrix should be suing Acacia. Based on what Norm has said so far, anything less is bullshit.

The release of this list, however it happened, is going to cost many people thousands of dollars and if you don't see a problem with that, it's because you care more about Matrix than you do about all of the people who are being hurt by this.

If this is Matrix's list, then they have cost people a lot of money - there is no excuse for that. They need to sue Acacia.

I have bought alot of content from Matrix over the years. I have been keeping an open mind as to who did what.

But the proof is now over mounting that Matrix sold us webmasters out to Acacia.

Yes alot of companies have settled, including my company, but never ever ever would we even dream of giving up our webmaster information. Our bread and butter, our hard working loyal webmasters who got us where we are.

Shame is not the word, this is Disgusting.

Matrix speak up man why was I one of the first companies to get the package. Did you single out my company.

Fuckers!

Chaos buddy, you were Matrix to me. Good time for leaving that company.

Accusations flying around without proof generally come back to bite you in the ass, though. If indeed Matrix pursues legal action, they can ONLY do so if Norm is telling the truth.. and the people who are in here accusing and yelling at them are going to look very stupid with egg on their faces.. Best to have all the facts BEFORE passing judgement, is it not?

Yea got mine today...Fuckers are coming after Canadians now ...:BangBang: