acacia on contributory infringement on xbiz

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  • basschick
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 2540

    #1

    acacia on contributory infringement on xbiz

    http://xbiz.com/articles/index.php?article_idp=778
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  • darnit
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 2439

    #2
    "If that site doesn't have audio/video but sends traffic to a sponsor site that does have streaming media, but no license, then that site needs a license from Acacia. If that sponsor signs up with Acacia later on, then the affiliate does not have to pay royalties on the revenues received from the Acacia-licensed sponsor. "

    so anything than links to a site that links to video is in violation? Thats three degrees of sepearation and on the web thats basically everyone in this biz.....wtf?

    m no lawyer but i know that if i link to a site that has a link to another site that has celeb photos (or something else "unauthorized") im not responsible for distribution and these are extremely clear cut laws....

    how is this valid for patent infringement if its not valid under every other treatment of the law?

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    • Mr.Fiction
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2002
      • 9484

      #3
      Google and Yahoo link to sites with streaming video.

      Sue them.
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      • brutus
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2002
        • 590

        #4
        They have lost their mind already but now it seems the have no head at all... lawyers can try anything, but they know that there's no way to win this way. They're trying just scare & collect from small poor webmasters.

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        • johnbosh
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2002
          • 8965

          #5
          Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
          Google and Yahoo link to sites with streaming video.

          Sue them.
          Good point there, must be a master sue then

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          • LiveDose
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            • Feb 2002
            • 25792

            #6
            Fuck those cocksmokers. That part of their threat will never stand up in court.

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            • chrisp420
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2002
              • 572

              #7
              seems pretty clear to me..

              you host video/audio and have no licence = bad

              you use a sponser who uses video = they need the licence

              you just link to a sponser who uses video and no licence, and are being harrassed about infringment and told you need a licence to link to a non-licenced site = down right stupid

              like many have said before, links make the web up, no links, no web.. borring. if you dont directly do video/audio streams, fuck it, the link claim dosent seem like it holds much water, if you do well thats up to you what to do..

              this is what my understanding after weeding through post after post and interviews. just my mabey im wrong..

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              • TomsPics
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2002
                • 498

                #8
                If non paysite owners don't need a license if there traffic goes to a sponsor with acacia license, then.. Is there some kind of list compiled of sponsors who are now licensed? I'm sure this would help a lot of us out.
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                • mrthumbs
                  salad tossing sig guy
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 11702

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TomsPics
                  If non paysite owners don't need a license if there traffic goes to a sponsor with acacia license, then.. Is there some kind of list compiled of sponsors who are now licensed? I'm sure this would help a lot of us out.
                  This post is EXACTLY what this acacia deal is all about. Brilliant.

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                  • Ron Bennett
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1653

                    #10
                    That article looks to be Acacia propaganda to me...

                    Here's why...

                    Supporting Sponsors Who Settle = MORE PATENT LAWSUITS! Others have patents too!

                    If the sponsors fighting Acacia give in, they'll regret it later...no I'm not talking because of us webmasters, but rather because Acacia is *NOT* THE ONLY COMPANY WITH METHOD PATENTS READY TO POUNCE!

                    Those sponsors which settled with Acacia, *and those webmasters who support them*, are under the mistaken belief that settling makes the problem disappear...nope, not exactly...other companies are ready to file patent infringement suits as well, if they see Acacia is sucessful.

                    Sponsors which haven't settled must be persistent and aggressively FIGHT BACK...for if sponsors, and webmasters too, give in now, they are doomed to a future of constantly fighting more patent infringement lawsuits on many fronts brought by numerous other parties...

                    Acacia needs to be stopped hard right now!

                    If sponsors and/or others are short on cash to fight the case, I'm sure a bunch of us can forego some sales and/or donate money to assist...

                    Ron
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                    • Veterans Day
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 8403

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ron Bennett
                      That article looks to be Acacia propaganda to me...

                      Here's why...

                      Supporting Sponsors Who Settle = MORE PATENT LAWSUITS! Others have patents too!

                      If the sponsors fighting Acacia give in, they'll regret it later...no I'm not talking because of us webmasters, but rather because Acacia is *NOT* THE ONLY COMPANY WITH METHOD PATENTS READY TO POUNCE!

                      Those sponsors which settled with Acacia, *and those webmasters who support them*, are under the mistaken belief that settling makes the problem disappear...nope, not exactly...other companies are ready to file patent infringement suits as well, if they see Acacia is sucessful.

                      Sponsors which haven't settled must be persistent and aggressively FIGHT BACK...for if sponsors, and webmasters too, give in now, they are doomed to a future of constantly fighting more patent infringement lawsuits on many fronts brought by numerous other parties...

                      Acacia needs to be stopped hard right now!

                      If sponsors and/or others are short on cash to fight the case, I'm sure a bunch of us can forego some sales and/or donate money to assist...

                      Ron
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                      • rogerbo
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 193

                        #12
                        Hmm there is something in their License

                        http://www.afrochicks.com/info/acaci...s/image11.html

                        under the Point 4 Representations, Warranties and Covenants

                        In the event that Licensed User contests or assists others in contesting the validity of this Agreement, AMTC, upon writen notice to Licensed User, may immediatly terminate this.

                        So it seems to me that when you do sign that crap and you support any one who does fight them then you did pay for nothing.
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