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Old 10-27-2003, 03:24 PM   #1
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Self-Employment Is Like Crack.....

Those who know, know.

You start working for yourself and make more and more money. Pretty soon you are making more money than you ever have before, and the whole time you're having a blast.

Next thing you know you are fucking spoiled rotten. No matter how bad shit gets you can't imagine going back to a real fucking job. Pushing pencils or running somebody elses business? Me fucking run your shit while I take home a whopping $7 a fucking hour? I'd rather fucking die!

You push yourself as hard as you can because theres no way in hell you could ever do that again. No matter what happens you'd rather live on the street than have to punch a fucking timeclock. You are going to do whatever the fuck it takes to make money you can call your own. It may be a pain in the ass but it's YOUR pain and YOUR ass. You'll get lazy and shit will go wrong. But when it does, you can damn sure figure it out and you will survive. You WILL do whatever the fuck you have to for things to work.

And when your wife or girlfriend says you work to much and/or don't spend enough time with them you will tell them to fuck off with their spoiled ass because NO FUCKING WAY you are going to let your business slide to the point where you have to sign your name to a job application.

Aside from the fact that I can no longer force myself to work for somebody how do you people get by on $5, $10, or even $20 a fucking hour? I don't have much of anything but $20 an hour wouldn't fucking touch the notes on what I do have.


Beware noobs, once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather fucking die.
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I can make money doing this?
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Very true ST!

When I drop my kid off at school in the morning I look at these guys working construction and landscaping and I just shake my head thinking how in the hell do they handle working like dogs in the hot sun all day.
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I work about 15 minutes a day 2 or 3 days a week. If that.
Same here unless you call playing poker work too. That's what made me post this, I have to get some work done for the first time in months. It feels like I'm cutting my fucking arm off to make myself work for more than 15 or 20 minutes at a time. I'm fucking spoiled on this shit, how could I ever go back to working for a living.

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Very true ST!

When I drop my kid off at school in the morning I look at these guys working construction and landscaping and I just shake my head thinking how in the hell do they handle working like dogs in the hot sun all day.
I shake my head when I see anybody working at a shit job. I remember when things got bad after me and a partner got into it about our appliance business and I split. I went back to a job I had making great money. I made $1200 a week at 19 years old and had quit to open an appliance store. When I went back after the fight it lasted 3 days. I said fuck this and I haven't had to work for somebody else since. That was over 5 years ago.
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Very true ST!

When I drop my kid off at school in the morning I look at these guys working construction and landscaping and I just shake my head thinking how in the hell do they handle working like dogs in the hot sun all day.
I used to think the same thing and even mock people like that. Now I realize that they are doing meaningful work and without them, all of us lazy fuckers would be screwed. Sometimes I almost envy guys like that (except the morning thing and the bosses and all that crap).
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I used to think the same thing and even mock people like that. Now I realize that they are doing meaningful work and without them, all of us lazy fuckers would be screwed. Sometimes I almost envy guys like that (except the morning thing and the bosses and all that crap).
Even if I didn't mind the boss, morning thing, etc. how in the hell do they survive on a regular paycheck? Aside from their wives having to bust their ass while their kids are in daycare all day.
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very true. i can spend 20 minutes a day and still make more than working for somebody else. Very cool post
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Even if I didn't mind the boss, morning thing, etc. how in the hell do they survive on a regular paycheck? Aside from their wives having to bust their ass while their kids are in daycare all day.
A lot of those guys make pretty good money but a lot don't and those are the ones that need to put their wives to work. It's sad if you ask me, I think that a family should be able to get by on one income. The advantage of a regular paycheck is that it is regular and you always know how much is coming in and when. It would drive me nuts not to have money coming in from 50 different places a week but some folks do fine that way.
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A lot of those guys make pretty good money but a lot don't and those are the ones that need to put their wives to work. It's sad if you ask me, I think that a family should be able to get by on one income. The advantage of a regular paycheck is that it is regular and you always know how much is coming in and when. It would drive me nuts not to have money coming in from 50 different places a week but some folks do fine that way.
I've been married for 4 years and I have a son that's 2 next month. I told my wife from day 1 she wasn't working to pay bills. I do what I must to make sure that never happens. At this point a normal persons good paycheck would put me in bankruptcy.
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You start working for yourself and make more and more money. Pretty soon you are making more money than you ever have before, and the whole time you're having a blast.

Next thing you know you are fucking spoiled rotten. No matter how bad shit gets you can't imagine going back to a real fucking job. Pushing pencils or running somebody elses business? Me fucking run your shit while I take home a whopping $7 a fucking hour? I'd rather fucking die!

You push yourself as hard as you can because theres no way in hell you could ever do that again. No matter what happens you'd rather live on the street than have to punch a fucking timeclock. You are going to do whatever the fuck it takes to make money you can call your own. It may be a pain in the ass but it's YOUR pain and YOUR ass. You'll get lazy and shit will go wrong. But when it does, you can damn sure figure it out and you will survive. You WILL do whatever the fuck you have to for things to work.

And when your wife or girlfriend says you work to much and/or don't spend enough time with them you will tell them to fuck off with their spoiled ass because NO FUCKING WAY you are going to let your business slide to the point where you have to sign your name to a job application.

Aside from the fact that I can no longer force myself to work for somebody how do you people get by on $5, $10, or even $20 a fucking hour? I don't have much of anything but $20 an hour wouldn't fucking touch the notes on what I do have.

Beware noobs, once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather fucking die.
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Thats the nasty rumor thats flying around.
I wish someone let me in on that one...

I need to get back in the rumur loop...
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Great post .... I was ganna stop working , now you have me all ready to keep going
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still waiting for that e-mail you were supposed to send out months ago..alls i keep getting is spam , spam and more spam..
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still waiting for that e-mail you were supposed to send out months ago..alls i keep getting is spam , spam and more spam..
A partner I had working with me quit in the middle of a huge project. There is absolutely no way I could pull this one off myself.
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that always sux..
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I know what you mean. When I go out for lunch or whatever in the middle of the 'working day' and see all these people working their asses off in jobs they hate for minimum wage I promise myself that I'll NEVER go back. We need people to work out in the world but I don't wanna be one of them ever again. What other job allows you to take a day off whenever you fucking well please just because you don't wanna be inside when the weather outside is so nice.









The only 'job' I'd ever go back into the workplace for would be working in a pottery studio full time. And that wouldn't be for the money but for the sheer joy of working with clay. Better yet, I'll probably just build my own studio in the back yard!
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It's the same thing for me...After being a spammer for several years I can say that I will no longer be able to work a normal job. Which is sad.

As for those people you say you feel sorry for, that work those shit jobs. Some of the happiest people in the world work shit jobs and are just content with their mediocre life. They haven't been consumed by money and all the greed and bullshit it brings.

Spamming has made me rich...but am I happy? No.
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And...

I'm quite a bit happier with security in another industry.

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I just joined this forum, I've been spamming for several years now. I've been spamming penis pills for about a year, but I would like to do some porn because I have many emails that are porn optins. I convert very well and clean my lists, are there any sponsors out there that would like to take me on?

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whats shitty is seeing my friends bust their asses to gross like $300 a week. never can go out cause they either dont have money or they have to work.. suckers.. i couldnt imagine that lifestyle again. $300 a week=bankrupt in a week. id be so fucked lol.
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you said it all stocktrader, i may be a small cog in this machine but i've still enjoyed being self employed sooo much over the past 5 years. its the only job that lasted more than 3 months for me. always got fucked over and got laid off before i made it into the union at other places, made more money than ever here too. kinda sucks lately as i've been searching for motivation and coming up empty so not making the big bucks anymore but still getting by. i think i need a chick to raise my spirits, among other things.
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You are so on target. Back in '98 I was making 6-7k a month with just paysites. (not a lot in scope, but I was driving a Limo, and had to put up exec's treating me like a second class person)
These days I am making more from the hard work I did.
I can NOT imagine doing a 9-5 for ANYBODY. That was a nice post.
I think I will work an extra hour today!
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Old 10-28-2003, 05:11 AM   #41
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Those who know, know.

You start working for yourself and make more and more money. Pretty soon you are making more money than you ever have before, and the whole time you're having a blast.

Next thing you know you are fucking spoiled rotten. No matter how bad shit gets you can't imagine going back to a real fucking job. Pushing pencils or running somebody elses business? Me fucking run your shit while I take home a whopping $7 a fucking hour? I'd rather fucking die!

You push yourself as hard as you can because theres no way in hell you could ever do that again. No matter what happens you'd rather live on the street than have to punch a fucking timeclock. You are going to do whatever the fuck it takes to make money you can call your own. It may be a pain in the ass but it's YOUR pain and YOUR ass. You'll get lazy and shit will go wrong. But when it does, you can damn sure figure it out and you will survive. You WILL do whatever the fuck you have to for things to work.

And when your wife or girlfriend says you work to much and/or don't spend enough time with them you will tell them to fuck off with their spoiled ass because NO FUCKING WAY you are going to let your business slide to the point where you have to sign your name to a job application.

Aside from the fact that I can no longer force myself to work for somebody how do you people get by on $5, $10, or even $20 a fucking hour? I don't have much of anything but $20 an hour wouldn't fucking touch the notes on what I do have.


Beware noobs, once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather fucking die.
preach on brotha!
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Old 10-28-2003, 05:21 AM   #42
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interesting topic. i've thought about this quite a bit over the years... and i simply can't imagine working a day job ever again. like someone said above, the entire concept is utterly foreign and alien to me now.
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It's the same thing for me...After being a spammer for several years I can say that I will no longer be able to work a normal job. Which is sad.

As for those people you say you feel sorry for, that work those shit jobs. Some of the happiest people in the world work shit jobs and are just content with their mediocre life. They haven't been consumed by money and all the greed and bullshit it brings.

Spamming has made me rich...but am I happy? No.
You are a spammer, why the hell should you be happy?
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Old 10-28-2003, 05:46 AM   #44
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Those who know, know.

You start working for yourself and make more and more money. Pretty soon you are making more money than you ever have before, and the whole time you're having a blast.

Next thing you know you are fucking spoiled rotten. No matter how bad shit gets you can't imagine going back to a real fucking job. Pushing pencils or running somebody elses business? Me fucking run your shit while I take home a whopping $7 a fucking hour? I'd rather fucking die!

You push yourself as hard as you can because theres no way in hell you could ever do that again. No matter what happens you'd rather live on the street than have to punch a fucking timeclock. You are going to do whatever the fuck it takes to make money you can call your own. It may be a pain in the ass but it's YOUR pain and YOUR ass. You'll get lazy and shit will go wrong. But when it does, you can damn sure figure it out and you will survive. You WILL do whatever the fuck you have to for things to work.

And when your wife or girlfriend says you work to much and/or don't spend enough time with them you will tell them to fuck off with their spoiled ass because NO FUCKING WAY you are going to let your business slide to the point where you have to sign your name to a job application.

Aside from the fact that I can no longer force myself to work for somebody how do you people get by on $5, $10, or even $20 a fucking hour? I don't have much of anything but $20 an hour wouldn't fucking touch the notes on what I do have.


Beware noobs, once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather fucking die.
Excellent post!

(anybody hiring? I'm looking for employment now...)

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Old 10-28-2003, 05:49 AM   #45
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Excellent post!

(anybody hiring? I'm looking for employment now...)

Oh yeah, I need to be able to come into work when I want to...take lunch breaks when I want to...Leave early just in case some of the guys are meeting at a strip club that day.

Oh yeah, I need to come in late sometimes from the wild nights at the strip clubs....

I CAN'T DO THAT AND WORK FOR YOUR COMPANY??


Well..................Go Fuck Yourself!
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Old 10-28-2003, 05:51 AM   #46
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I have never actually worked for someone else in my life, so I have no idea what it's like... doesn't seem really fulfilling though.
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Old 10-28-2003, 06:01 AM   #47
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Thtat post made me wor kharder today:D
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Old 10-28-2003, 06:04 AM   #48
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well i understand what you say, i'm not self employed YET but my dad is, he owns a few meat stores and he works every damn day, from 8 am until 8 pm, he makes alot of $ and i got most of the shit i wanted when growing up, he doesn't take a break, out of the year maybe he has a total of one week off, he works like a dog, but, i just wish he would have taken time off from work to spend with us it was mainly my mom raising me , my bro and my sis but what can i say my dad is a work aholic. i worked for him once for about a year and i straight told him, im not working for you anymore i make more $ off my computer then working for you and you pay me like shit. to much work for to little $ , im only 19 but ive been making $ from the comp since i was 16 and truthfully i can't stand a regular job. ive only had 1 actual job and that was workign for my dads but he set a lasting impression
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well i understand what you say, i'm not self employed YET but my dad is, he owns a few meat stores and he works every damn day, from 8 am until 8 pm, he makes alot of $ and i got most of the shit i wanted when growing up, he doesn't take a break, out of the year maybe he has a total of one week off, he works like a dog, but, i just wish he would have taken time off from work to spend with us it was mainly my mom raising me , my bro and my sis but what can i say my dad is a work aholic. i worked for him once for about a year and i straight told him, im not working for you anymore i make more $ off my computer then working for you and you pay me like shit. to much work for to little $ , im only 19 but ive been making $ from the comp since i was 16 and truthfully i can't stand a regular job. ive only had 1 actual job and that was workign for my dads but he set a lasting impression
You don't want to go from one "job" to another "job" even if you OWN the "job". Why the hell would I want to work myself into the grave? That's working hard, not working smart.

Read "The E-Myth" for an excellent insight into running a business and not having a "job".


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Old 10-28-2003, 08:25 AM   #50
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This is very very true, shit I'd even work on the internet earning half what I could earn with a 'normal' job. I really do think its a case of different strokes for different folks, some people need to be the boss and others are just happy to follow orders.

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im only 19 but ive been making $ from the comp since i was 16 and truthfully i can't stand a regular job
I'm the same age as you and started making money online the same age as you and I totally know what you mean, I'd rather be completely broke for months on end than have to endure the shit that other people have to take in normal jobs.

I think running your own buisness is great especially when its making you excellent money but personally I have found that the problems can start when you because lazy and can't motivate yourself to do work, when that shit starts to happen your buisness can go down hill very fast and the money can begin to dry up unless your willing to put the work back into making it successful again. Bottom line is don't become lazy and you will never have to cross that bridge.

Apart from that this buisness fucking rules !! Nothin better than deciding what you wanna do !
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