well i understand what you say, i'm not self employed YET but my dad is, he owns a few meat stores and he works every damn day, from 8 am until 8 pm, he makes alot of $ and i got most of the shit i wanted when growing up, he doesn't take a break, out of the year maybe he has a total of one week off, he works like a dog, but, i just wish he would have taken time off from work to spend with us it was mainly my mom raising me , my bro and my sis but what can i say my dad is a work aholic. i worked for him once for about a year and i straight told him, im not working for you anymore i make more $ off my computer then working for you and you pay me like shit. to much work for to little $ , im only 19 but ive been making $ from the comp since i was 16 and truthfully i can't stand a regular job. ive only had 1 actual job and that was workign for my dads but he set a lasting impression
Originally posted by init well i understand what you say, i'm not self employed YET but my dad is, he owns a few meat stores and he works every damn day, from 8 am until 8 pm, he makes alot of $ and i got most of the shit i wanted when growing up, he doesn't take a break, out of the year maybe he has a total of one week off, he works like a dog, but, i just wish he would have taken time off from work to spend with us it was mainly my mom raising me , my bro and my sis but what can i say my dad is a work aholic. i worked for him once for about a year and i straight told him, im not working for you anymore i make more $ off my computer then working for you and you pay me like shit. to much work for to little $ , im only 19 but ive been making $ from the comp since i was 16 and truthfully i can't stand a regular job. ive only had 1 actual job and that was workign for my dads but he set a lasting impression
You don't want to go from one "job" to another "job" even if you OWN the "job". Why the hell would I want to work myself into the grave? That's working hard, not working smart.
Read "The E-Myth" for an excellent insight into running a business and not having a "job".
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once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather fucking die
This is very very true, shit I'd even work on the internet earning half what I could earn with a 'normal' job. I really do think its a case of different strokes for different folks, some people need to be the boss and others are just happy to follow orders.
im only 19 but ive been making $ from the comp since i was 16 and truthfully i can't stand a regular job
I'm the same age as you and started making money online the same age as you and I totally know what you mean, I'd rather be completely broke for months on end than have to endure the shit that other people have to take in normal jobs.
I think running your own buisness is great especially when its making you excellent money but personally I have found that the problems can start when you because lazy and can't motivate yourself to do work, when that shit starts to happen your buisness can go down hill very fast and the money can begin to dry up unless your willing to put the work back into making it successful again. Bottom line is don't become lazy and you will never have to cross that bridge.
Apart from that this buisness fucking rules !! Nothin better than deciding what you wanna do !
Originally posted by BlackCrayon you said it all stocktrader, i may be a small cog in this machine but i've still enjoyed being self employed sooo much over the past 5 years. its the only job that lasted more than 3 months for me. always got fucked over and got laid off before i made it into the union at other places, made more money than ever here too. kinda sucks lately as i've been searching for motivation and coming up empty so not making the big bucks anymore but still getting by. i think i need a chick to raise my spirits, among other things.
Motivation can be hard to come by but I doubt a chick is going to motivate you to stay on the computer more.
Go buy a toy and try to pay for it in 2 months or less. (Motivation)
"I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."
I have had discussions with friends of mine that work that don't understand how I can sit at home all day. One of them is 38 years old and a cook at Applebees for $11 a hour. He would rather do that, than what I do (which I don't understand). I make more in one day than he does all week. He stands over some hot broiler all day with someone telling him what to do and works his butt off from 6 in the mourning till 5 at night. I don't understand how he can do that and he doesn't understand how I can do what I do. He barely brings in enough money for rent and food each month.
He is happy and content working for hard for somebody and earning them money and I'm happy and content having freedom and making decent money to do what I want. It's beyond my understanding on how he would rather work for somebody and earn barely nothing and not understand why I'm happy with my freedom and making decent money.
Originally posted by icedemon I have had discussions with friends of mine that work that don't understand how I can sit at home all day. One of them is 38 years old and a cook at Applebees for $11 a hour. He would rather do that, than what I do (which I don't understand). I make more in one day than he does all week. He stands over some hot broiler all day with someone telling him what to do and works his butt off from 6 in the mourning till 5 at night. I don't understand how he can do that and he doesn't understand how I can do what I do. He barely brings in enough money for rent and food each month.
He is happy and content working for hard for somebody and earning them money and I'm happy and content having freedom and making decent money to do what I want. It's beyond my understanding on how he would rather work for somebody and earn barely nothing and not understand why I'm happy with my freedom and making decent money.
I call them "normal" people. If it wasn't this biz it would be another one. I've been slinging shit since I was 5 years old. It's in my fucking blood.
"I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."
I just got back from Taco Bell and while i was there i looked at my hubby and said "this is why i work at home for myself". But thank god that they work or otherwise there would be nobody to make me Nacho Supremes!
Originally posted by stocktrader23 Those who know, know.
You start working for yourself and make more and more money. Pretty soon you are making more money than you ever have before, and the whole time you're having a blast.
Next thing you know you are fucking spoiled rotten. No matter how bad shit gets you can't imagine going back to a real fucking job. Pushing pencils or running somebody elses business? Me fucking run your shit while I take home a whopping $7 a fucking hour? I'd rather fucking die!
You push yourself as hard as you can because theres no way in hell you could ever do that again. No matter what happens you'd rather live on the street than have to punch a fucking timeclock. You are going to do whatever the fuck it takes to make money you can call your own. It may be a pain in the ass but it's YOUR pain and YOUR ass. You'll get lazy and shit will go wrong. But when it does, you can damn sure figure it out and you will survive. You WILL do whatever the fuck you have to for things to work.
And when your wife or girlfriend says you work to much and/or don't spend enough time with them you will tell them to fuck off with their spoiled ass because NO FUCKING WAY you are going to let your business slide to the point where you have to sign your name to a job application.
Aside from the fact that I can no longer force myself to work for somebody how do you people get by on $5, $10, or even $20 a fucking hour? I don't have much of anything but $20 an hour wouldn't fucking touch the notes on what I do have.
Beware noobs, once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather fucking die.
It's the damn truth man. I should print this out and staple it to my wall....
You CAN be a good person and do this job. As long as I see the evil -- and as long as I know what I'm being selfish about, I can live with myself... This job gives you time to look and see how the world works -- sometime's it's pretty, sometime's it's not.
You are right though -- I'd rather live in a cardboard box accessing the internet through WIFI than working a 9-5... I have some backup plans -- but they this job holds onto you with a tight grip... The grip of manhood -- the grip of freedom of mind and body -- friendship -- even identity... When I look back at my life -- it's as if this is my destiny. I think we will be slipping through these cracks for a long time -- the cat is out of the hat -- the internet is rocking the world... we should be remembered fondly... let the legend live on.
Originally posted by Beastiepoo I know what you mean. When I go out for lunch or whatever in the middle of the 'working day' and see all these people working their asses off in jobs they hate for minimum wage I promise myself that I'll NEVER go back. We need people to work out in the world but I don't wanna be one of them ever again. What other job allows you to take a day off whenever you fucking well please just because you don't wanna be inside when the weather outside is so nice.
The only 'job' I'd ever go back into the workplace for would be working in a pottery studio full time. And that wouldn't be for the money but for the sheer joy of working with clay. Better yet, I'll probably just build my own studio in the back yard!
Yeah true... I get so lazy -- just daydreaming all day long -- I need to really push myself to clean up around the apartment and do my artwork... Daydreaming has so many benefits -- but this job really fucks with your time-management abilities because you can always put shit off until tomorrow... I haven't used an alarm clock in 5 years now except for when I travel and I need to make a flight... This job really forces you to find the proper balance of pleasure vs. work -- because nobody else will find it for you unless you live with another person(s). I've found that this job puts a real strain on living with other people -- because they can't mesh with my lifestyle... They don't realize it maybe -- they they get very upset that they have to work so hard and you just get to play around on GFY...
I call them "normal" people. If it wasn't this biz it would be another one. I've been slinging shit since I was 5 years old. It's in my fucking blood.
It's in my blood too. I started working at the age of 5 at my dads cabinet shop cleaning the place. My grandfather had a local trucking business. My dad had a cabinet shop in the northwest that did cabinets for banks, resturants, court houses, etc.. My other grandfather owned a paint brush store. No money gets handed down from father to son either. We all started with nothing and took it from there. I learned from my father, just like he did from his. My dad has over 100 million, but I'll never see any of it, cause that is the way our family is. You either make it or you don't.
By the way, they all pretty much were able to retire at the age of 30. They still looked owning and taking care of a business though.
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