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stocktrader23 · 10-28-2003, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by BlackCrayon
you said it all stocktrader, i may be a small cog in this machine but i've still enjoyed being self employed sooo much over the past 5 years. its the only job that lasted more than 3 months for me. always got fucked over and got laid off before i made it into the union at other places, made more money than ever here too. kinda sucks lately as i've been searching for motivation and coming up empty so not making the big bucks anymore but still getting by. i think i need a chick to raise my spirits, among other things.

Motivation can be hard to come by but I doubt a chick is going to motivate you to stay on the computer more.

Go buy a toy and try to pay for it in 2 months or less.

(Motivation)

50 Non 9 to 5ers!

icedemon · 10-28-2003, 10:04 AM

I have had discussions with friends of mine that work that don't understand how I can sit at home all day. One of them is 38 years old and a cook at Applebees for $11 a hour. He would rather do that, than what I do (which I don't understand). I make more in one day than he does all week. He stands over some hot broiler all day with someone telling him what to do and works his butt off from 6 in the mourning till 5 at night. I don't understand how he can do that and he doesn't understand how I can do what I do. He barely brings in enough money for rent and food each month.

He is happy and content working for hard for somebody and earning them money and I'm happy and content having freedom and making decent money to do what I want. It's beyond my understanding on how he would rather work for somebody and earn barely nothing and not understand why I'm happy with my freedom and making decent money.

stocktrader23 · 10-28-2003, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by icedemon
I have had discussions with friends of mine that work that don't understand how I can sit at home all day. One of them is 38 years old and a cook at Applebees for $11 a hour. He would rather do that, than what I do (which I don't understand). I make more in one day than he does all week. He stands over some hot broiler all day with someone telling him what to do and works his butt off from 6 in the mourning till 5 at night. I don't understand how he can do that and he doesn't understand how I can do what I do. He barely brings in enough money for rent and food each month.

He is happy and content working for hard for somebody and earning them money and I'm happy and content having freedom and making decent money to do what I want. It's beyond my understanding on how he would rather work for somebody and earn barely nothing and not understand why I'm happy with my freedom and making decent money.

I call them "normal" people. If it wasn't this biz it would be another one. I've been slinging shit since I was 5 years old. It's in my fucking blood.

Rui · 10-28-2003, 10:47 AM

stocktrader23 - what are you up to nowadays?

brand0n · 10-28-2003, 11:04 AM

might as well get a job at wendys -bradshaw

Dirty D · 10-28-2003, 11:30 AM

In my case....

Self employment involves Crack.

Help me pimp out Crack Whores and get paid...

Pimpin' - now that's a real job!

myjah · 10-28-2003, 12:04 PM

I just got back from Taco Bell and while i was there i looked at my hubby and said "this is why i work at home for myself". But thank god that they work or otherwise there would be nobody to make me Nacho Supremes!

TheFLY · 10-28-2003, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Those who know, know.

You start working for yourself and make more and more money. Pretty soon you are making more money than you ever have before, and the whole time you're having a blast.

Next thing you know you are fucking spoiled rotten. No matter how bad shit gets you can't imagine going back to a real fucking job. Pushing pencils or running somebody elses business? Me fucking run your shit while I take home a whopping $7 a fucking hour? I'd rather fucking die!

You push yourself as hard as you can because theres no way in hell you could ever do that again. No matter what happens you'd rather live on the street than have to punch a fucking timeclock. You are going to do whatever the fuck it takes to make money you can call your own. It may be a pain in the ass but it's YOUR pain and YOUR ass. You'll get lazy and shit will go wrong. But when it does, you can damn sure figure it out and you will survive. You WILL do whatever the fuck you have to for things to work.

And when your wife or girlfriend says you work to much and/or don't spend enough time with them you will tell them to fuck off with their spoiled ass because NO FUCKING WAY you are going to let your business slide to the point where you have to sign your name to a job application.

Aside from the fact that I can no longer force myself to work for somebody how do you people get by on $5, $10, or even $20 a fucking hour? I don't have much of anything but $20 an hour wouldn't fucking touch the notes on what I do have.

Beware noobs, once you reach a certain point there is no turning back. You would rather fucking die.

It's the damn truth man. I should print this out and staple it to my wall....

You CAN be a good person and do this job. As long as I see the evil -- and as long as I know what I'm being selfish about, I can live with myself... This job gives you time to look and see how the world works -- sometime's it's pretty, sometime's it's not.

You are right though -- I'd rather live in a cardboard box accessing the internet through WIFI than working a 9-5... I have some backup plans -- but they this job holds onto you with a tight grip... The grip of manhood -- the grip of freedom of mind and body -- friendship -- even identity... When I look back at my life -- it's as if this is my destiny. I think we will be slipping through these cracks for a long time -- the cat is out of the hat -- the internet is rocking the world... we should be remembered fondly... let the legend live on.

TheFLY · 10-28-2003, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Beastiepoo
I know what you mean. When I go out for lunch or whatever in the middle of the 'working day' and see all these people working their asses off in jobs they hate for minimum wage I promise myself that I'll NEVER go back. We need people to work out in the world but I don't wanna be one of them ever again. What other job allows you to take a day off whenever you fucking well please just because you don't wanna be inside when the weather outside is so nice.

The only 'job' I'd ever go back into the workplace for would be working in a pottery studio full time. And that wouldn't be for the money but for the sheer joy of working with clay. Better yet, I'll probably just build my own studio in the back yard!

Yeah true... I get so lazy -- just daydreaming all day long -- I need to really push myself to clean up around the apartment and do my artwork... Daydreaming has so many benefits -- but this job really fucks with your time-management abilities because you can always put shit off until tomorrow... I haven't used an alarm clock in 5 years now except for when I travel and I need to make a flight... This job really forces you to find the proper balance of pleasure vs. work -- because nobody else will find it for you unless you live with another person(s). I've found that this job puts a real strain on living with other people -- because they can't mesh with my lifestyle... They don't realize it maybe -- they they get very upset that they have to work so hard and you just get to play around on GFY...

icedemon · 10-28-2003, 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

I call them "normal" people. If it wasn't this biz it would be another one. I've been slinging shit since I was 5 years old. It's in my fucking blood.

It's in my blood too. I started working at the age of 5 at my dads cabinet shop cleaning the place. My grandfather had a local trucking business. My dad had a cabinet shop in the northwest that did cabinets for banks, resturants, court houses, etc.. My other grandfather owned a paint brush store. No money gets handed down from father to son either. We all started with nothing and took it from there. I learned from my father, just like he did from his. My dad has over 100 million, but I'll never see any of it, cause that is the way our family is. You either make it or you don't.

By the way, they all pretty much were able to retire at the age of 30. They still looked owning and taking care of a business though.

foulfowl · 10-28-2003, 08:03 PM

Did you say smoking crack?

www.foulfowl.com

Burnie · 10-28-2003, 09:44 PM

Well I can't see the "15 to 20 minutes a day" thing, It takes me longer to look through my emails than that.

There is money to be made, but not sitting on your ass doing nothing, JMHO

I work at different things "7 days a week" (girlfriend hates it) But I have been doing it for over 5 years and make a good living.

Anyone who blows smoke up your ass and says you can make a good living working "15 to 20 minutes a day", has someone they are paying to do all the work for them. JMHO....

And Just My

stocktrader23 · 10-28-2003, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by Burnie
Well I can't see the "15 to 20 minutes a day" thing, It takes me longer to look through my emails than that.

There is money to be made, but not sitting on your ass doing nothing, JMHO

I work at different things "7 days a week" (girlfriend hates it) But I have been doing it for over 5 years and make a good living.

Anyone who blows smoke up your ass and says you can make a good living working "15 to 20 minutes a day", has someone they are paying to do all the work for them. JMHO....

And Just My

I don't pay anyone to do shit. I don't have to work the 20 minutes if I don't want to.

irishfury · 10-28-2003, 10:32 PM

I started in the adult industry back in 98 I worked in it for about two years making about 10k a month sometimes more sometimes less....well I figured I got back to school and quit doing adult finsihed school......now I am a net admin and I can't fucking stand working a job so now I am doing this part time and when the money back to the way it was before I will be doing this full time....Yup I always will look back to working hard my first three months and then everything I built survived with little work.....

Crack yes being bossless is like crack.

Frank W · 10-29-2003, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by DrewKole
I took a 150%+ pay decrease leaving adult for the most part.

And...

I'm quite a bit happier with security in another industry.

To each their own.

If Interest rates spike up, would there be much security in the mortgage industry?

Then again, the same question will appear for pr0n when.. NOT IF... when Credit Card and FTC regulations force most US operations to massively restructure and shave margins for lower to mid webmasters.

Uncertainty is the salt of life

Furious_Female · 10-29-2003, 02:57 AM

I love being self employed. I was raised being in business for yourself and I couldn't imagine having to work for someone else, for a fraction of what they make or worse, entry level management telling me what to do, when I know I am smarter than the hair on their toes.

It's unrealistic for everyone to be self employed. There's a time and place for every job in this world and however menial or unappealing they might seem to others, they are still important. Not everyone can be a surgeon or stock shelves at Walmart or pour concrete. Someone has to do these jobs and I appreciate the ones that do the jobs that I don't. Obviously there's money to be made working under others. I'm hella glad there's butchers and slaughter house workers, because I would eat tree bark before doing that for myself.

People who aren't self employed might not have some of the conveniences the ones that are have.. but being self employed has it's downfalls as well, especially when you aren't making as much money as you should be and then you have to pay for your own health insurance and plan your own 401k plan for retirement. Not to mention, if you have employees working for you, paying into unemployment and all sorts of other insurances. Being self employed doesn't always guarantee financial security.... but it does give you uncomparable freedom. There's also a difference between being self employed and when your money works for you. I can get away with very little work during the day and weeks at a time, because I am lucky... but when I do have to do work, it's tedious and hard. Some people just have their money working for them, so their presence isn't even needed. I emply myself, but I still work for my money.

I started staying up all night and I miss the whole day, when "normal" people are doing business. Gets lonesome at times... no colleagues or schedules to follow. I hope to get on a normal time schedule soon... I need some more discipline in my life

I feel guilty for having it so good, when others have it so bad. I'm ridiculously spoiled and that's why even though I have advantages some others don't, I give to charities and causes... because it's the least I can do, to contribute to society, other than taxes

siccmade · 10-29-2003, 03:28 AM

Stocktrader

I remember mailing you a long time ago, you were supposed to right some shit about helping people make more money

then I never got an email or heard anything else about it

If you've got some secrets, some methods, some successful ways of making more money out of your online adult business, I would be more than happy to hear them

Let me know

Thanks

siccmade · 10-29-2003, 01:11 PM

Rui · 10-29-2003, 01:35 PM

lol i think you among 100 people are in the same situation!

TurboTrucker · 10-29-2003, 01:51 PM

There's a lot of money in mainstream stuff too.

ChumpChange · 10-29-2003, 03:18 PM

It boils down to "to each it's own" some ppl chose to work for others and some have no choice...

Quote:

Go buy a toy and try to pay for it in 2 months or less

If you're really rollin why not pay for it right then and there. Only common Joes must wait to pay it off

Shoplifter · 10-29-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

I've been married for 4 years and I have a son that's 2 next month. I told my wife from day 1 she wasn't working to pay bills. I do what I must to make sure that never happens. At this point a normal persons good paycheck would put me in bankruptcy.

I wouldn't reveal my income even to my wife. With my current, one of the first things I said was that everyone works all the time.

I've been pretty well able to keep my costs to no more of a 50% increase compared to my pre porn days. All I really got to pay is mortgages, and for the most part I got others doing that.

But it is totally inconcievable to go back to working for the man even for a decent wage. The only thing that I really worry about is what I will do in the post porn world, if it ever comes.

Rui · 11-09-2003, 05:34 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

Yeah true... I get so lazy -- just daydreaming all day long -- I need to really push myself to clean up around the apartment and do my artwork... Daydreaming has so many benefits -- but this job really fucks with your time-management abilities because you can always put shit off until tomorrow... I haven't used an alarm clock in 5 years now except for when I travel and I need to make a flight... This job really forces you to find the proper balance of pleasure vs. work -- because nobody else will find it for you unless you live with another person(s). I've found that this job puts a real strain on living with other people -- because they can't mesh with my lifestyle... They don't realize it maybe -- they they get very upset that they have to work so hard and you just get to play around on GFY...

Think that was one of the few posts I agree almost 100% with you m8, so right on what you said!

Sifu · 11-09-2003, 06:02 AM

TheFLY · 11-10-2003, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by Burnie
Well I can't see the "15 to 20 minutes a day" thing, It takes me longer to look through my emails than that.

There is money to be made, but not sitting on your ass doing nothing, JMHO

I work at different things "7 days a week" (girlfriend hates it) But I have been doing it for over 5 years and make a good living.

Anyone who blows smoke up your ass and says you can make a good living working "15 to 20 minutes a day", has someone they are paying to do all the work for them. JMHO....

And Just My

I guess you never figured out how to design software

sexxxsites · 11-27-2003, 01:55 AM

Pornwolf · 11-27-2003, 02:08 AM

Will someone please tell me what crack's like so I can make a fair comparison?

10-28-2003, 10:04 AM	#52
icedemon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lutz, FL Posts: 1,022	I have had discussions with friends of mine that work that don't understand how I can sit at home all day. One of them is 38 years old and a cook at Applebees for $11 a hour. He would rather do that, than what I do (which I don't understand). I make more in one day than he does all week. He stands over some hot broiler all day with someone telling him what to do and works his butt off from 6 in the mourning till 5 at night. I don't understand how he can do that and he doesn't understand how I can do what I do. He barely brings in enough money for rent and food each month. He is happy and content working for hard for somebody and earning them money and I'm happy and content having freedom and making decent money to do what I want. It's beyond my understanding on how he would rather work for somebody and earn barely nothing and not understand why I'm happy with my freedom and making decent money. __________________ Clips4Sale.com

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Burnie Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Hurricane Florida Posts: 205	Well I can't see the "15 to 20 minutes a day" thing, It takes me longer to look through my emails than that. There is money to be made, but not sitting on your ass doing nothing, JMHO I work at different things "7 days a week" (girlfriend hates it) But I have been doing it for over 5 years and make a good living. Anyone who blows smoke up your ass and says you can make a good living working "15 to 20 minutes a day", has someone they are paying to do all the work for them. JMHO.... And Just My __________________

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Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	I love being self employed. I was raised being in business for yourself and I couldn't imagine having to work for someone else, for a fraction of what they make or worse, entry level management telling me what to do, when I know I am smarter than the hair on their toes. It's unrealistic for everyone to be self employed. There's a time and place for every job in this world and however menial or unappealing they might seem to others, they are still important. Not everyone can be a surgeon or stock shelves at Walmart or pour concrete. Someone has to do these jobs and I appreciate the ones that do the jobs that I don't. Obviously there's money to be made working under others. I'm hella glad there's butchers and slaughter house workers, because I would eat tree bark before doing that for myself. People who aren't self employed might not have some of the conveniences the ones that are have.. but being self employed has it's downfalls as well, especially when you aren't making as much money as you should be and then you have to pay for your own health insurance and plan your own 401k plan for retirement. Not to mention, if you have employees working for you, paying into unemployment and all sorts of other insurances. Being self employed doesn't always guarantee financial security.... but it does give you uncomparable freedom. There's also a difference between being self employed and when your money works for you. I can get away with very little work during the day and weeks at a time, because I am lucky... but when I do have to do work, it's tedious and hard. Some people just have their money working for them, so their presence isn't even needed. I emply myself, but I still work for my money. I started staying up all night and I miss the whole day, when "normal" people are doing business. Gets lonesome at times... no colleagues or schedules to follow. I hope to get on a normal time schedule soon... I need some more discipline in my life I feel guilty for having it so good, when others have it so bad. I'm ridiculously spoiled and that's why even though I have advantages some others don't, I give to charities and causes... because it's the least I can do, to contribute to society, other than taxes __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

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