preach on brotha! :thumbsup

interesting topic. i've thought about this quite a bit over the years... and i simply can't imagine working a day job ever again. like someone said above, the entire concept is utterly foreign and alien to me now.

You are a spammer, why the hell should you be happy?

Excellent post!

(anybody hiring? I'm looking for employment now...)

:Buck:

Oh yeah, I need to be able to come into work when I want to...take lunch breaks when I want to...Leave early just in case some of the guys are meeting at a strip club that day.

Oh yeah, I need to come in late sometimes from the wild nights at the strip clubs....

I CAN'T DO THAT AND WORK FOR YOUR COMPANY??


Well..................Go Fuck Yourself! :321GFY

I have never actually worked for someone else in my life, so I have no idea what it's like... doesn't seem really fulfilling though. :glugglug

Thtat post made me wor kharder today:D

well i understand what you say, i'm not self employed YET but my dad is, he owns a few meat stores and he works every damn day, from 8 am until 8 pm, he makes alot of $ and i got most of the shit i wanted when growing up, he doesn't take a break, out of the year maybe he has a total of one week off, he works like a dog, but, i just wish he would have taken time off from work to spend with us it was mainly my mom raising me , my bro and my sis but what can i say my dad is a work aholic. i worked for him once for about a year and i straight told him, im not working for you anymore i make more $ off my computer then working for you and you pay me like shit. to much work for to little $ , im only 19 but ive been making $ from the comp since i was 16 and truthfully i can't stand a regular job. ive only had 1 actual job and that was workign for my dads but he set a lasting impression :1orglaugh

You don't want to go from one "job" to another "job" even if you OWN the "job". Why the hell would I want to work myself into the grave? That's working hard, not working smart.

Read "The E-Myth" for an excellent insight into running a business and not having a "job".


Penn

This is very very true, shit I'd even work on the internet earning half what I could earn with a 'normal' job. I really do think its a case of different strokes for different folks, some people need to be the boss and others are just happy to follow orders.

I'm the same age as you and started making money online the same age as you and I totally know what you mean, I'd rather be completely broke for months on end than have to endure the shit that other people have to take in normal jobs.

I think running your own buisness is great especially when its making you excellent money but personally I have found that the problems can start when you because lazy and can't motivate yourself to do work, when that shit starts to happen your buisness can go down hill very fast and the money can begin to dry up unless your willing to put the work back into making it successful again. Bottom line is don't become lazy and you will never have to cross that bridge.

Apart from that this buisness fucking rules !! Nothin better than deciding what you wanna do !

Motivation can be hard to come by but I doubt a chick is going to motivate you to stay on the computer more. :1orglaugh

Go buy a toy and try to pay for it in 2 months or less. :winkwink: (Motivation)


50 Non 9 to 5ers!

I have had discussions with friends of mine that work that don't understand how I can sit at home all day. One of them is 38 years old and a cook at Applebees for $11 a hour. He would rather do that, than what I do (which I don't understand). I make more in one day than he does all week. He stands over some hot broiler all day with someone telling him what to do and works his butt off from 6 in the mourning till 5 at night. I don't understand how he can do that and he doesn't understand how I can do what I do. He barely brings in enough money for rent and food each month.

He is happy and content working for hard for somebody and earning them money and I'm happy and content having freedom and making decent money to do what I want. It's beyond my understanding on how he would rather work for somebody and earn barely nothing and not understand why I'm happy with my freedom and making decent money.

I call them "normal" people. If it wasn't this biz it would be another one. I've been slinging shit since I was 5 years old. It's in my fucking blood.

stocktrader23 - what are you up to nowadays? :)

might as well get a job at wendys -bradshaw

In my case....

Self employment involves Crack.

Help me pimp out Crack Whores and get paid...

Pimpin' - now that's a real job!

I just got back from Taco Bell and while i was there i looked at my hubby and said "this is why i work at home for myself". But thank god that they work or otherwise there would be nobody to make me Nacho Supremes!

It's the damn truth man. I should print this out and staple it to my wall....

You CAN be a good person and do this job. As long as I see the evil -- and as long as I know what I'm being selfish about, I can live with myself... This job gives you time to look and see how the world works -- sometime's it's pretty, sometime's it's not.

You are right though -- I'd rather live in a cardboard box accessing the internet through WIFI than working a 9-5... I have some backup plans -- but they this job holds onto you with a tight grip... The grip of manhood -- the grip of freedom of mind and body -- friendship -- even identity... When I look back at my life -- it's as if this is my destiny. I think we will be slipping through these cracks for a long time -- the cat is out of the hat -- the internet is rocking the world... we should be remembered fondly... let the legend live on.



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Yeah true... I get so lazy -- just daydreaming all day long -- I need to really push myself to clean up around the apartment and do my artwork... Daydreaming has so many benefits -- but this job really fucks with your time-management abilities because you can always put shit off until tomorrow... I haven't used an alarm clock in 5 years now except for when I travel and I need to make a flight... This job really forces you to find the proper balance of pleasure vs. work -- because nobody else will find it for you unless you live with another person(s). I've found that this job puts a real strain on living with other people -- because they can't mesh with my lifestyle... They don't realize it maybe -- they they get very upset that they have to work so hard and you just get to play around on GFY... :1orglaugh

It's in my blood too. I started working at the age of 5 at my dads cabinet shop cleaning the place. My grandfather had a local trucking business. My dad had a cabinet shop in the northwest that did cabinets for banks, resturants, court houses, etc.. My other grandfather owned a paint brush store. No money gets handed down from father to son either. We all started with nothing and took it from there. I learned from my father, just like he did from his. My dad has over 100 million, but I'll never see any of it, cause that is the way our family is. You either make it or you don't.

By the way, they all pretty much were able to retire at the age of 30. They still looked owning and taking care of a business though.

Did you say smoking crack?



www.foulfowl.com

Well I can't see the "15 to 20 minutes a day" thing, It takes me longer to look through my emails than that. :1orglaugh

There is money to be made, but not sitting on your ass doing nothing, JMHO

I work at different things "7 days a week" (girlfriend hates it) But I have been doing it for over 5 years and make a good living.

Anyone who blows smoke up your ass and says you can make a good living working "15 to 20 minutes a day", has someone they are paying to do all the work for them. JMHO....

And Just My :2 cents:

I don't pay anyone to do shit. I don't have to work the 20 minutes if I don't want to. :1orglaugh

I started in the adult industry back in 98 I worked in it for about two years making about 10k a month sometimes more sometimes less....well I figured I got back to school and quit doing adult finsihed school......now I am a net admin and I can't fucking stand working a job so now I am doing this part time and when the money back to the way it was before I will be doing this full time....Yup I always will look back to working hard my first three months and then everything I built survived with little work.....

Crack yes being bossless is like crack.

If Interest rates spike up, would there be much security in the mortgage industry?

Then again, the same question will appear for pr0n when.. NOT IF... when Credit Card and FTC regulations force most US operations to massively restructure and shave margins for lower to mid webmasters.

Uncertainty is the salt of life :)

I love being self employed. I was raised being in business for yourself and I couldn't imagine having to work for someone else, for a fraction of what they make or worse, entry level management telling me what to do, when I know I am smarter than the hair on their toes.

It's unrealistic for everyone to be self employed. There's a time and place for every job in this world and however menial or unappealing they might seem to others, they are still important. Not everyone can be a surgeon or stock shelves at Walmart or pour concrete. Someone has to do these jobs and I appreciate the ones that do the jobs that I don't. Obviously there's money to be made working under others. I'm hella glad there's butchers and slaughter house workers, because I would eat tree bark before doing that for myself.

People who aren't self employed might not have some of the conveniences the ones that are have.. but being self employed has it's downfalls as well, especially when you aren't making as much money as you should be and then you have to pay for your own health insurance and plan your own 401k plan for retirement. Not to mention, if you have employees working for you, paying into unemployment and all sorts of other insurances. Being self employed doesn't always guarantee financial security.... but it does give you uncomparable freedom. There's also a difference between being self employed and when your money works for you. I can get away with very little work during the day and weeks at a time, because I am lucky... but when I do have to do work, it's tedious and hard. Some people just have their money working for them, so their presence isn't even needed. I emply myself, but I still work for my money.

I started staying up all night and I miss the whole day, when "normal" people are doing business. Gets lonesome at times... no colleagues or schedules to follow. I hope to get on a normal time schedule soon... I need some more discipline in my life :1orglaugh

I feel guilty for having it so good, when others have it so bad. I'm ridiculously spoiled and that's why even though I have advantages some others don't, I give to charities and causes... because it's the least I can do, to contribute to society, other than taxes :uhoh

Stocktrader

I remember mailing you a long time ago, you were supposed to right some shit about helping people make more money

then I never got an email or heard anything else about it

If you've got some secrets, some methods, some successful ways of making more money out of your online adult business, I would be more than happy to hear them

Let me know

Thanks

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lol i think you among 100 people are in the same situation!

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There's a lot of money in mainstream stuff too.

It boils down to "to each it's own" some ppl chose to work for others and some have no choice...

If you're really rollin why not pay for it right then and there. Only common Joes must wait to pay it off

I wouldn't reveal my income even to my wife. With my current, one of the first things I said was that everyone works all the time.

I've been pretty well able to keep my costs to no more of a 50% increase compared to my pre porn days. All I really got to pay is mortgages, and for the most part I got others doing that.

But it is totally inconcievable to go back to working for the man even for a decent wage. The only thing that I really worry about is what I will do in the post porn world, if it ever comes.

Think that was one of the few posts I agree almost 100% with you m8, so right on what you said!

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I guess you never figured out how to design software :1orglaugh

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Will someone please tell me what crack's like so I can make a fair comparison?