larry flynt talks with xbiz (video) - GoFuckYourself.com

XBizLori · 10-23-2003, 04:45 PM

if you're interested in what Larry Flynt has to say regarding the online biz, check out the exclusive interview we just did with him

http://xbiz.com/articles/index.php?article_idp=766

dont miss the video link!

SlutFinder · 10-23-2003, 04:53 PM

hmm not getting the video up.. this just me?

Mike AI · 10-23-2003, 04:54 PM

Did he comment on why he settled with Acacia?

Stud Money · 10-23-2003, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XBizLori
if you're interested in what Larry Flynt has to say regarding the online biz, check out the exclusive interview we just did with him

http://xbiz.com/articles/index.php?article_idp=766

dont miss the video link!

Spam

GeXus · 10-23-2003, 04:58 PM

Too bad he mumbles and slobbers while he speaks.. you can hardly tell what he is saying..

Is he semi-retarded?

Cyborg69 · 10-23-2003, 04:59 PM

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doober · 10-23-2003, 05:00 PM

when will people get real BW

Stud Money · 10-23-2003, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyborg69
bw exceeded
too many gfyers

Cheap ass virtual server accounts

bhutocracy · 10-23-2003, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeXus
Too bad he mumbles and slobbers while he speaks.. you can hardly tell what he is saying..

Is he semi-retarded?

that had better be a joke.

GeXus · 10-23-2003, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

that had better be a joke.

Yes it was a joke, but he does mumble like a mother fucker

Paparazzi · 10-23-2003, 05:05 PM

can you fuckers stop refreshing

Stud Money · 10-23-2003, 05:06 PM

Buy Xbiz advertising now before they raise their rates to pay for all the additional bandwidth

GeXus · 10-23-2003, 05:08 PM

"america has a monopoly on technology"
- Larry Flynt

What about japan?

GigaChris · 10-23-2003, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeXus
Too bad he mumbles and slobbers while he speaks.. you can hardly tell what he is saying..

Is he semi-retarded?

damn thats harsh

Cyborg69 · 10-23-2003, 05:09 PM

i read the interview nothing interesting just bio

GeXus · 10-23-2003, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GigaChris

damn thats harsh

Hey man, I just say it as I see it.. I think Larry flynt stands for a good cause, and is a good man, but im not going to deny the obvious.

jason420 · 10-23-2003, 05:14 PM

server exceed bandwitdh for me... I like Larry, I wanted to see it.

XBizMayo · 10-23-2003, 05:30 PM

Server exceded bandwidth? Appears to be going strong to me..what are you all talking about?

-Mayo

BRISK · 10-23-2003, 05:39 PM

Did he say their websites are making $1.3 million a month?

GigaChris · 10-23-2003, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeXus

Hey man, I just say it as I see it.. I think Larry flynt stands for a good cause, and is a good man, but im not going to deny the obvious.

true & I don't blame you but then again respect has been earned for that man we all see it but it's kind of like the pimple you get in the center of your forehead your friends notice but don't point and laugh just my

XBizMayo · 10-23-2003, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GigaChris

true & I don't blame you but then again respect has been earned for that man we all see it but it's kind of like the pimple you get in the center of your forehead your friends notice but don't point and laugh just my

giga word.

GeXus · 10-23-2003, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GigaChris

true & I don't blame you but then again respect has been earned for that man we all see it but it's kind of like the pimple you get in the center of your forehead your friends notice but don't point and laugh just my

Or like when you have a buger hanging from your nose and no one tells you, so you go out and look like an ass...

ok j/k

I get your point... and your right.

Chris · 10-23-2003, 06:04 PM

i almost feel asleep

Lensman · 10-23-2003, 06:12 PM

Interesting stuff, can't wait for part 2.

Bladewire · 10-23-2003, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Interesting stuff, can't wait for part 2.

Part II - Hard questions with solid answers

keyoo · 10-23-2003, 06:49 PM

what an amateur interview

xpays get some real professionalism

hah

BadBoyBill4281 · 10-23-2003, 07:29 PM

Times like this is when i'm proud to say i'm from Dayton, Ohio

BRISK · 10-23-2003, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by keyoo
what an amateur interview

Seemed like less of an interview and more like a random conversation.

Larry was even opening his mail during the whole thing

tony286 · 10-23-2003, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK

Seemed like less of an interview and more like a random conversation.

Larry was even opening his mail during the whole thing

Yeah I saw that too , I am like he cant give them the common courtesy to wait to open his mail lol. I am assuming this is PR after signing with Acacia. Larry didnt do the things he did to protect you , he did them to protect himself and his profitable business. He is not the Mother Teresa of porn. Also we have to remember these adult industry sites and magazines are not real news sources, they are marketing engines for their advertisers. That's why it all tends to be very powder puff.

brand0n · 10-23-2003, 11:14 PM

larry fuckin rocks!

MetaformX · 10-23-2003, 11:25 PM

larry rocks, but Lori, you need to brush up on your interviewing skills

XBizMayo · 10-24-2003, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404

We have to remember these adult industry sites and magazines are not real news sources, they are marketing engines for their advertisers. That's why it all tends to be very powder puff.

?and how is this a unique point? Can one not apply this same sentiment to CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS, NYTIMES, WASHINGTON POST, and every other major U.S based provider of ?news? and ?current events?? How about industry specific publications? There?s thousands upon thousands of them and why do you suppose they exist? To help make sure Bob over at ?Bob?s Industrial Storage? is keeping up to date on all the latest and greatest trends of his chosen industry? Please. At the end of the day regardless of whether your Time-Warner or YNOT, you abide by the universal law of diminishing returns. End of story.

FightThisPatent · 10-24-2003, 11:52 AM

Anyone see the double irony in this interview?

First, it's digital video on a website.

Second, one of the defense statements being heard that tries to justify Hustler's settlement is that internet is a small part of their of their business model.

Here is what Mr. Flynt said in the interview:

XBiz: How has a solid Internet presence affected your profits?

LF: Dramatically. The last figure we've seen is about $1.3 million per month. And that's just from our website. I know for a fact that its great because I know a lot of my competitors are not doing that well. Even Playboy is not doing that well.

XBiz: Is your Internet presence more of an accessory to the established business you had going, or did you really go into it for a new revenue stream?

LF: I went into it out of curiosity. The first five years that we did it on our own, we were profitable, but not nearly as profitable as we are now.

$1.3M/month..... wow.... $15M+ must not be considered a significant portion of their overall Gross Revenue.

Another point is that Acacia's patent covers Video on Demand.. which does account for part of their revenue.... so Acacia is not just about internet-based audio/video.

Read their website: http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/technology_main.htm

Listen to the 3Q conference call playback: http://biz.yahoo.com/cc/9/35459.html (and yes, it is also ironic to have this clip on Yahoo)

Fight the Patent!

rooster · 10-24-2003, 12:05 PM

annoying interview. The sound is terrible, theres too many interviewers and their audio is like twenty times higher than flynts.

JamesK · 10-24-2003, 12:18 PM

the movie was horrible. larry flint talks like a cow

the interview was good though. sweet.

Nima · 10-24-2003, 12:41 PM

I can barely hear what he is saying LOL

brothenberg · 10-24-2003, 12:57 PM

still no video.

XBizLori · 10-24-2003, 02:05 PM

I appreciate all the GFY'ers opinions on the Larry Flynt Exclusive.

just a note of reference, Larry speaks the way he does due to the accident that put him in the wheelchair.

that is how he speaks today.

though there may have been some audio/tech issues, we chose to run the video because of who he is, which is more important in our opinion.

Part II of the Flynt interview is coming soon.

wizz · 10-24-2003, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Wildcard
the interview was good though. sweet. [/B]

I agree

Stud Money · 10-24-2003, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XBizLori
we chose to run the video because of who he is

Nothing like building traffic based on someone elses name

Oracle Porn · 10-24-2003, 02:18 PM

I didn't understand shit he was saying!

joechip · 10-24-2003, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XBizLori
I appreciate all the GFY'ers opinions on the Larry Flynt Exclusive.

just a note of reference, Larry speaks the way he does due to the accident that put him in the wheelchair.

ACCIDENT????

Damn, I can't believe how fucking ignorant so many GFY'ers when it comes to very basic knowledge about Pornography (and sex in general, for that matter).

I'm sure he can accept people making fun of his handicap and I'm sure he still has a sick sense of humor, but everyone here should realize that every single one of us trying to make a buck in porn owe Larry Flynt a huge debt for standing up against conservative shitheads.

It was no "accident" that put Larry Flynt in a wheelchari. Larry was shot for standing up for free speech. Larry Flynt survived a right-wing assasination attempt outside a courthouse while standing trial on obscentity charges. The gunmen was never apprehended, but it's widely assumed that a conservative right-wing hitman carried out the attack.

Larry Flynt is true patriot and an american hero.

XBizMayo · 10-24-2003, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by joechip
Larry Flynt is true patriot and an american hero.

Well Put. Well Put indeed.

XBizMayo · 10-24-2003, 04:38 PM

Look, if you thought the video was shotty, then ok.
If you thought the audio was terrible, then ok.
If you think XBiz sucks it up and down the industry, and isn?t worth the bandwidth they use, then ok?

You?re entitled to you?re opinions, and I support you?re right to voice them, HOWEVER:

?acting like fucking five year olds pointing at the strange kid on the playground because he ?talks funny? is just ludicrous. Grow the fuck up.

Flynt came from nothing, and built a god-damned empire in just under 30 years. He had officially been in the ?porn? business for only 4 years when on March 6th 1978 ?some? piece of shit (right-wing, left-wing, fascist, black, white, whogivesafuck, piece of shit all the same) took aim and bounced a bullet of Mr. Flynts spine leaving him paralyzed, in an immense amount of pain, and with a speech impediment. Regardless, Flynt made it through, has been an outspoken advocate for free speech, and taken on some of this nations most conservative cave dwellers, such as the infamous Rev. Jerry Falwell all in order to pave the road YOU currently travel on.

So he talks funny, maybe he even drools a little bit, but at the end of the day the guy has given this industry it?s foundation, so why don?t you sit back, have a coke, a smile, shut the fuck up, and extend the man some fucking courtesy!

Stud Money · 10-24-2003, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XbizMayo
Look, if you thought the video was shotty, then ok.
If you thought the audio was terrible, then ok.
If you think XBiz sucks it up and down the industry, and isn?t worth the bandwidth they use, then ok?

You?re entitled to you?re opinions, and I support you?re right to voice them, HOWEVER:

?acting like fucking five year olds pointing at the strange kid on the playground because he ?talks funny? is just ludicrous. Grow the fuck up.

Flynt came from nothing, and built a god-damned empire in just under 30 years. He had officially been in the ?porn? business for only 4 years when on March 6th 1978 ?some? piece of shit (right-wing, left-wing, fascist, black, white, whogivesafuck, piece of shit all the same) took aim and bounced a bullet of Mr. Flynts spine leaving him paralyzed, in an immense amount of pain, and with a speech impediment. Regardless, Flynt made it through, has been an outspoken advocate for free speech, and taken on some of this nations most conservative cave dwellers, such as the infamous Rev. Jerry Falwell all in order to pave the road YOU currently travel on.

So he talks funny, maybe he even drools a little bit, but at the end of the day the guy has given this industry it?s foundation, so why don?t you sit back, have a coke, a smile, shut the fuck up, and extend the man some fucking courtesy!

Professional

myjah · 10-24-2003, 04:46 PM

larry is still a pimp

tony286 · 10-24-2003, 04:49 PM

If memory serves me right, The speech problem was not from getting shot . It was from a stroke he had years later. I have great respect for Mr Flynt for building something from nothing. But once again he wasnt fighting for us he was fighting for him and his business. Because of him fighting for himself , we have benefited but I dont think helping others was on the top of Larry's agenda and it doesnt have to be. He is a business man not Pope and it is childish to make fun of the way he speaks. Also remember nice caring guys dont become rich men from nothing, driven ruthless men become rich men from nothing.

Stud Money · 10-24-2003, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
driven ruthless men become rich men from from nothing.

Aint that the truth

tony286 · 10-24-2003, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XbizMayo

?and how is this a unique point? Can one not apply this same sentiment to CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS, NYTIMES, WASHINGTON POST, and every other major U.S based provider of ?news? and ?current events?? How about industry specific publications? There?s thousands upon thousands of them and why do you suppose they exist? To help make sure Bob over at ?Bob?s Industrial Storage? is keeping up to date on all the latest and greatest trends of his chosen industry? Please. At the end of the day regardless of whether your Time-Warner or YNOT, you abide by the universal law of diminishing returns. End of story.

Thats why I listen to NPR for all my news

I read all the articles and get a few of the mags. I sometimes read a cool thing I didnt know or something to help my business, I will not deny that. We are now in rough times and there is no press to ask the tough questions for us. I also understand someone buys a shit load of advertising and you're not going to run them over the coals. I am a businessman I can understand that. I would rather have a news site I pay $10 a month to be a member of and get the hard articles and interviews, one that doesnt depend on ads like NPR . Infact I just pledged to them today

XBizMayo · 10-24-2003, 05:16 PM

Granted. It was not my intention to make Larry out to be a sweet heart, for to be whole heartedly honest, the man kind of scares me, it was however my intention to get the point across that the man hasn?t done anything detrimental to these people making fun of the way he speaks, which I think we?ve already covered and agreed on. Dropped.

That being said, blanketing the man as cold and ruthless because he has built something from nothing probably isn?t the most accurate way of looking at it either. With the money and power Hustler holds in this industry, he could effectively take the approach Mr. Gates takes to business, and wipe out his competitors, but he doesn?t, and I have to believe that is a conscience decision, regardless whether the motivation is greed or love.

As a side note 404, you are correct, his speech impediment was the result of a stroke that occurred years after the shooting, I guess that?s what I get when I let my emotions write for me instead of my intellect.
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As far as professionalism: heh?talk about the pot calling the kettle black, eh?

-M

10-23-2003, 04:45 PM	#1
XBizLori Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 325	larry flynt talks with xbiz (video) if you're interested in what Larry Flynt has to say regarding the online biz, check out the exclusive interview we just did with him http://xbiz.com/articles/index.php?article_idp=766 dont miss the video link!

10-23-2003, 04:53 PM	#2
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10-23-2003, 04:58 PM	#5
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10-23-2003, 05:08 PM	#13
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10-23-2003, 05:09 PM	#15
Cyborg69 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada T.O. Posts: 932	i read the interview nothing interesting just bio

10-23-2003, 05:14 PM	#17
jason420 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 137	server exceed bandwitdh for me... I like Larry, I wanted to see it.

10-23-2003, 05:30 PM	#18
XBizMayo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 36	Server exceded bandwidth? Appears to be going strong to me..what are you all talking about? -Mayo

10-23-2003, 05:39 PM	#19
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Did he say their websites are making $1.3 million a month? __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

10-23-2003, 06:04 PM	#23
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10-23-2003, 06:12 PM	#24
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Interesting stuff, can't wait for part 2.

10-23-2003, 06:49 PM	#26
keyoo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 34	what an amateur interview xpays get some real professionalism hah

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10-23-2003, 11:25 PM	#31
MetaformX Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,704	larry rocks, but Lori, you need to brush up on your interviewing skills __________________

10-24-2003, 11:52 AM	#33
FightThisPatent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,090	Anyone see the double irony in this interview? First, it's digital video on a website. Second, one of the defense statements being heard that tries to justify Hustler's settlement is that internet is a small part of their of their business model. Here is what Mr. Flynt said in the interview: XBiz: How has a solid Internet presence affected your profits? LF: Dramatically. The last figure we've seen is about $1.3 million per month. And that's just from our website. I know for a fact that its great because I know a lot of my competitors are not doing that well. Even Playboy is not doing that well. XBiz: Is your Internet presence more of an accessory to the established business you had going, or did you really go into it for a new revenue stream? LF: I went into it out of curiosity. The first five years that we did it on our own, we were profitable, but not nearly as profitable as we are now. $1.3M/month..... wow.... $15M+ must not be considered a significant portion of their overall Gross Revenue. Another point is that Acacia's patent covers Video on Demand.. which does account for part of their revenue.... so Acacia is not just about internet-based audio/video. Read their website: http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/technology_main.htm Listen to the 3Q conference call playback: http://biz.yahoo.com/cc/9/35459.html (and yes, it is also ironic to have this clip on Yahoo) Fight the Patent! __________________ http://www.t3report.com (where's the traffic?) v5.0 is out! \| http://www.FightThePatent.com \| ICQ 52741957

10-24-2003, 12:05 PM	#34
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	annoying interview. The sound is terrible, theres too many interviewers and their audio is like twenty times higher than flynts.

10-24-2003, 12:18 PM	#35
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	the movie was horrible. larry flint talks like a cow the interview was good though. sweet. __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

10-24-2003, 12:41 PM	#36
Nima Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,192	I can barely hear what he is saying LOL

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10-24-2003, 02:05 PM	#38
XBizLori Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 325	I appreciate all the GFY'ers opinions on the Larry Flynt Exclusive. just a note of reference, Larry speaks the way he does due to the accident that put him in the wheelchair. that is how he speaks today. though there may have been some audio/tech issues, we chose to run the video because of who he is, which is more important in our opinion. Part II of the Flynt interview is coming soon.

10-24-2003, 02:18 PM	#41
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	I didn't understand shit he was saying! __________________

10-24-2003, 04:38 PM	#44
XBizMayo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 36	Look, if you thought the video was shotty, then ok. If you thought the audio was terrible, then ok. If you think XBiz sucks it up and down the industry, and isn?t worth the bandwidth they use, then ok? You?re entitled to you?re opinions, and I support you?re right to voice them, HOWEVER: ?acting like fucking five year olds pointing at the strange kid on the playground because he ?talks funny? is just ludicrous. Grow the fuck up. Flynt came from nothing, and built a god-damned empire in just under 30 years. He had officially been in the ?porn? business for only 4 years when on March 6th 1978 ?some? piece of shit (right-wing, left-wing, fascist, black, white, whogivesafuck, piece of shit all the same) took aim and bounced a bullet of Mr. Flynts spine leaving him paralyzed, in an immense amount of pain, and with a speech impediment. Regardless, Flynt made it through, has been an outspoken advocate for free speech, and taken on some of this nations most conservative cave dwellers, such as the infamous Rev. Jerry Falwell all in order to pave the road YOU currently travel on. So he talks funny, maybe he even drools a little bit, but at the end of the day the guy has given this industry it?s foundation, so why don?t you sit back, have a coke, a smile, shut the fuck up, and extend the man some fucking courtesy!

10-24-2003, 04:46 PM	#46
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10-24-2003, 04:49 PM	#47
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	If memory serves me right, The speech problem was not from getting shot . It was from a stroke he had years later. I have great respect for Mr Flynt for building something from nothing. But once again he wasnt fighting for us he was fighting for him and his business. Because of him fighting for himself , we have benefited but I dont think helping others was on the top of Larry's agenda and it doesnt have to be. He is a business man not Pope and it is childish to make fun of the way he speaks. Also remember nice caring guys dont become rich men from nothing, driven ruthless men become rich men from nothing.

10-24-2003, 05:16 PM	#50
XBizMayo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 36	Granted. It was not my intention to make Larry out to be a sweet heart, for to be whole heartedly honest, the man kind of scares me, it was however my intention to get the point across that the man hasn?t done anything detrimental to these people making fun of the way he speaks, which I think we?ve already covered and agreed on. Dropped. That being said, blanketing the man as cold and ruthless because he has built something from nothing probably isn?t the most accurate way of looking at it either. With the money and power Hustler holds in this industry, he could effectively take the approach Mr. Gates takes to business, and wipe out his competitors, but he doesn?t, and I have to believe that is a conscience decision, regardless whether the motivation is greed or love. As a side note 404, you are correct, his speech impediment was the result of a stroke that occurred years after the shooting, I guess that?s what I get when I let my emotions write for me instead of my intellect. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As far as professionalism: heh?talk about the pot calling the kettle black, eh? -M