how about a fax number so you can fax me my copy?

excuse me? so what happened to me? nothing every time someone makes you mad ted you threaten them with your lawyer. unblock me and send me a aim message and we can take care of this NDA matter.

I think a lot of ppl wouldnt go back/to PH just because you're involved still.. I know (as an animal lover) i would never use PH knowing you're still the one who owns it..

Did Biz get that bad that you needed to put space between yourself and the company? I dont think anyone recalls seeing you since the whole cat thing broke.

no business got better thanks for your concern.
and it's great you will judge something without having all the facts infront of you.

You are a FUCKING ASSHOLE!


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Please, people. I don't know all the specifics of the interpersonal relationships behind this bickering. I just got back from Webmaster Access though and Ted is in way better shape than most gfyers. It is not like he microwaved any cute furry critters and calling someone fat here is just silly. Give the man a break.

You must not have seen the video.


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LOOK, HERE ok the video is gone but look over it.


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The day I took over at Pro Hosters there was 8 on Site personal.
We are not down sizing.

Ted does not run the company; he does work for the company. Pro Hosters, LLC is not owned by one single owner.

As to Ted being the owner. Ted is one of the owners of Pro Hosters, LLC. The company does of course have a board of directors also and Ted does have a place there. Yes Pro Hosters is a company and so it operates like one. Ted being a large stock holder and the founder of Pro Hosters will always be around. Somone said he wants more time. Ted works more hours now than ever but he is doing what he likes to do, coding and selling hosting, working with the customers is what he enjoys the most.

Pro Hosters has been a solid company for years and it will only be growing as it has been. I don't see the company getting smaller when I see the racks filling up and our space requirements changing all the time. The course of the company is to grow and continue to provide solid hosting and great tech support.

I fail to see what is so hard to understand. He stepped down from running the company. There is a lot more to running a company than selling hosting.

They can't give the man a break. It is not now nor ever has been more than a personal attack on a person in an attempt to hurt a company. Fact is the attempt failed in a major way and now they are mad that the company grew when they thought it should be getting smaller after their crusade.

Yunno, in China they would have just killed and eaten the cat.

try the US... ever wonder whats in that burbon chicken??

Well said, sorry Ted your DUMB ASS put up a video showing you and your poor cat. I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT TO YOU! Oh I can't your 2 big. Fuck you and your shitty company.

http://www.turboface.com/misc/kitty.jpg


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I know you're a fucking idioit and that i would never do any business with you, and that my friend is all i need to know.

Why dont you go abuse some animals, do you treat your kids and wife the same way you treat the cat? Do you force them to endure cruel and inhuman activities? I guess living with you could be considered that but set that aside.

What's next ted? Are you going to be taping you skinning a cat a live? throwing it off a building? Come on TED, lets hear it.

If there is one thing i hate most in the world it is people who abuse animals . You can thank your custom agents at the border for saving you because if i could have crossed the border i would have come down there and "played" with you as you "played" with your cat.

On the flipside, if you're ever up in canada why dont you give me a call TED, we can have some fun together!

My cat gives you.....:thumbsup http://www.turboface.com/misc/kitty.jpg

<img src='http://gateway2.fasti.net/dvds/IMG_9201.jpg'>
(one of my cats) gives your kitty a :thumbsup

Awwwwww, my cat said Thanks!

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I don't conduct business with people who abuse animals.

I thank you for that!

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I do not know Ted, (or the cat), but I have met Dan aka Kicks. and he is a cool person, I would give him a chance to talk to me before I judged him if i was you (just my two cents) and again I know of none of the history of Prohosters, or ted....

I am just saying Dan is cool!

I've never met Dan to like him or dislike him, just the same with any PH Employee. I do know what Ted did with the cat and for that there are some of us who will never consider PH for their needs.

You could very well be right about Dan, Pro Hosters _could_ be an excellent company however I will never help support someone who abuses animals.

PH could be a good company but yes ted did destroy it with his methods of doing things.

Ted your just an asshole the way you treated people from the security guards at Verio to people you did business with.

p.s i'm still waiting for that NDA

Have not read the whole thread as frankly i find it a waste of time (yet im still typing this yes).

Notjoe, You cant be this much of an idiot can you?
Ted was never (Prohosters), prohosters is a company and he is just one of the ppl there running the place (or used to).
So he tosses a cat and you would choose to move because of that? (i dont think so, but then again you probably never hosted with them)!
And if you dident you most likely wouldent move anyway.

I have never had as good service as from when i moved there so to be honest i couldent care if they tossed a freeking COW to the moon.....
I might not like it, but business is business.

So to summon up you believe that anyone that hosts with prohosters condone animal abuse....?
(what a pile of shit)

kicks,

Any plans to reduce the pricing for dedicated servers?

I've had a small virtual account with ProHosters for a couple of years and have been fairly happy. There have been a couple of rough spots, but overall it's been okay.

I need another dedicated server and the Dedicated Basic Solution would work good, but there's no way that I would pay $299/mo with a $399 setup fee for a 100G plan with $1.50/gig overage... that's ABSURD!!!

You've already lost some of my business as I've got three dedicated servers with other hosting companies because no one at ProHosters was willing to cut a deal with a long-time customer.

I guess i am this much of an idiot because had i been with HIS company (Yes, he does own it as it was already stated in this thread) i would have jumped ship when this all happened and i would never give it a second thought.. I know some people jumped ship,l but i guess it depends on you are, what your beliefs are, and how far you'll let something cross the line of your beliefs before you say enough.

You see, i actually care about animals. And believe it or not but i do have certian morals and ethics i follow but i guess that is the difference between us? Would it be ok to to throw a kid up in the air so it spins around and lands on its head? What if Ted did that, would you still remain a customer? What if ted posted naked pictures of your wife/sister/mother (someone you cared about), would you jump ship then?

That is completely right, Business is Business and i choose not to conduct Business with anyone who de-values the life of an animal and causes it undue pain.


When did i ever say that any one of PH's customers condoned abuse? Are you that hard up to make a point that you have to shove words in my mouth and say i said things when i didnt?

As you said, Business is Business and everyone makes their own choices. My choice was to never consider PH for anything i'll ever be doing because of his actions.

There are plenty of other people who run their shit just as good if not better then PH, like http://www.webair.com for example.

So, Ted and kicks, your company old got stronger after that cat incident? hmm, how was the convention shortly after?

http://www.bigleaguebetting.com/catfound.jpg

Oh that's right, Ted is a fat fucking pussy who laughs about hurting a cat at home, but is too much of a chicken shit to be seen in public around a bunch of people who know what a looser he is. Or maybe he just didn't want one of us tossing his pasty gay ass around like a ragdoll and making a tape of it?

hmm, majority owner and CEO is a little more than being "just one of the people there". You're actually calling someone else an idiot? :1orglaugh

First I want to thank the business people that have posted to this thread.

As to business being bad, again I know otherwise since I know the number of racks we have and the number we have on order and the data center space we have reserved to move into soon. I also know the fact that we are increasing our office space at the data center. I also know the number of new servers we have been adding each week and our bandwidth has continued to go up. I know the number of vendors that approach us on a regular basis wanting badly to have our business. Business bad???... nope not at all and I full well expect to double the current growth numbers over the next 120 days.

People that do know me know I am running Pro Hosters and have been since the day I got off the plane. I have no immediate supervisors nor do I need any. Pro Hosters is changing a lot of things but the one area that will not be changing is the level of service our customers have come to expect. We will in fact be offering more services for our customers soon. Pro Hosters is expanding into other markets much more providing stronger collocation programs, onsite managment services, and will be stronger in more markets soon. Since I have arrived Pro Hosters has also employed a staff of coders that is working on something special for it's customers.

As to how I stand on animal abuse. This is a personal question and truly has nothing to do with business but it has been asked and I have nothing to hide I will be happy to answer.
I was raised on a dairy farm and milked cows from age 9. I have had pets all of my life, currently we host 2 cats, one we think is 14 and her kitten who is 13 years old and we have had the older one for 13 years (stray). I say we host them because I do not believe a cat to be a domestic animal and so can not be owned by a person. We also have my son a 4 year old German Shepard that was given to the family by a dear friend. I do not abuse my pets or any animal for that matter, at least not where I come from. I have killed livestock yes. I have taken them to slaughter so you all could eat at mickey D's or so you could have a christmas ham. I have had to put down livestock I considered to be a pet to end their pain. Now if that is abuse I am guilty. Have I ever done anything I consider abusive to an animal, no. I have never did anything for the pure plesure of seeing an animal in pain or torment.

Pro Hosters is going to be around for a lot of years to come. As for Ted, he always has a spot at Pro Hosters unless he decides he does not want the job any longer. That is his choice, he has shown his devotion to customers and his ability to do his job as a professional and that is all I ask from anyone that is a part of the Pro Hosters Team. Despite what some of you might want to claim, he did not kill a cat, he did not abuse a cat (according to a court of law) I have no reason to consider replacing Ted. Why would I replace a person of his skill, experiance in the hosting industry and his commitment to the company and it's customers? I know also that some of you would leave Pro Hosters if Ted did, I want to thank everyone that is that loyal to a person they do business with. Those emails show a great deal of support for Ted.

As a business man would I replace Ted..... Do I look "nucking futs"?

I will admit that to be part of the team at Pro Hosters it does take a special kind of person, one who has the drive to succeed, one that has the ability to think on their feet, the common sense god gave us all and the ability to use it. They have to put the customer first and be willing to give the commitment required to keep the customers happy with the services we provide. Be devoted to building their future and the companies future. No Pro Hosters is not looking for people that just want to draw a paycheck we are always looking for people that want a real career and a future.

I second that.... to the T.

That is some nice dancing around the issue!

There is a huge difference between " I have had to put down livestock I considered to be a pet to end their pain. Now if that is abuse I am guilty. Have I ever done anything I consider abusive to an animal, no. I have never did anything for the pure plesure of seeing an animal in pain or torment. " and throwing a cat up in the air and making it do multiple flips and have it land on its head.

You can say as many nice things about PH as you want and i really couldnt care as it isnt the "company" who me and others have a problem with so much as the owner of it :)

Who is the majority owner in the company, for the record? Would you consider Ted your Boss? Did Ted hire you?

What is your view on the cat tossing?

I DEMAND TO SEE THE CAT, ALIVE AND WELL WITH A COPY OF TODAY'S NEWSPAPER NEXT TO IT

The key word that was not correct in your statement is "majority". You may want to consider not speaking when you are not aware of accurate facts.

I am not here to debate what was. The company needs no defense for providing a great service to thousands of webmasters.

Ted's position at Pro Hosters is that of Sales. If you need hosting, he is the best guy to talk to. If dealing with him is an issue for you, then you are welcome to contact me.

Dan

I can't believe we are still talking about a cat toss. :1orglaugh

No dancing was done, I replied, take it however you want to.

Your other questions have already been answered if you were reading the replies instead of trying find things to pick at you would have known the answers already

Contact me and we can talk.

What exactly is it that i am picking at? I think i asked legit questions. Is it wrong to ask if someone whom you dont like is still a owner of a company who you would do business with? I guess it would be wrong of me to request MRTG graphs of your networks usage over the last year to see how stable its been too?

49% could be considered less than majority but that is still money in his pocket. It would be better spent on a company who makes donations to support things such as animal shelters rather than have their employee shoot animal abuse footage and post it.

For all i know the profits PH sees which then goes into Teds pockets could be funding animal abuse sleeper cells.

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kicks,

Email sent...

Just for the record, I could care less if Ted EATS cats... haha

The only thing that interests me about ProHosters is RELIABLE hosting at a good price, nothing else is of any concern to me.

Business is business... :cool-as-a

looks like kicks got what ted promised the 3.. possibly 4 others before him.

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