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SomeCreep · 10-24-2003, 12:06 AM

50 Acacia patents

Far-L · 10-24-2003, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by nuclei
I am just wondering why everyone is getting all fired up over what is nothing more than a sales packet. You guys get stuff like acacia sent out every day by other marketers. This is no different. What pisses me off is the fact that a certain large company gave our info up. I know the info my packet was sent to only ONE company had.

Do you mind being specific?

Mr.Fiction · 10-24-2003, 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by Far-L

Do you mind being specific?

Many on GFY have said they think it's Matrix.

nuclei · 10-24-2003, 01:04 AM

on this board? yeh i would mind far.

shoot me an email sometime and we can have a little talk. I will be out of touch for a week, maybe more, but after that lets get together.

Theo · 10-24-2003, 01:12 AM

the primary way of fighting acacia is by not settling. Personally I would push the limits through the legal system if needed.

johnbosh · 10-24-2003, 02:19 AM

I hate acacia

Far-L · 10-24-2003, 07:42 AM

Nuclei: Please email me timlake AT homegrownvideo.com or give my cell a call 206-852-5566

Thanks, I understand and respect your privacy about this.

CHMOD · 10-24-2003, 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by latinasojourn

exactly right Squirtit.

Don't ignore a LAWSUIT, no matter how frivolous.

IF you are sued, respond, either with an attorney, or in pro per.

A default judgment is usually automatic if you do not put in an appearance. And if acacia gets a default judgment against you because you did not even respond to their lawsuit, they WILL notify your domain name service and hosting company to shut you down.

And if that happens (and you want to stay in business) you WILL have to settle with them.

But they can ONLY do that IF they have a judgment against you.

so, respond to a lawsuit, any lawsuit, and make them prove their case.

it is my understanding, that at this very moment, acacia HAS NOT PROVEN THEIR CASE IN ANY COURT OF LAW, and in at least one case THE JUDGE THROUGH THEIR CASE OUT!

anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.

make them prove their case.

I hope you are right...

The thing is that they ALLREADY have an injuction from court.

Now my question is:

With that injuction, do they really have to go to court EACH time they want to close a website ?

I don't think so. They just have to show the injuction to your webhost ans that's it. Your site is down.

This is my feeling but I'm not a lwayer and I would really like an accurate answer on this.

Too many people talking off their asses here.

latinasojourn · 10-24-2003, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CHMOD

I hope you are right...

The thing is that they ALLREADY have an injuction from court.

Now my question is:

With that injuction, do they really have to go to court EACH time they want to close a website ?

I don't think so. They just have to show the injuction to your webhost ans that's it. Your site is down.

This is my feeling but I'm not a lwayer and I would really like an accurate answer on this.

Too many people talking off their asses here.

to PROVE you are infringing requires a lawsuit. No one is going to be shutdown just because acacia makes a phone call to your host.

that's the key.

SEE THEM IN COURT!

webair · 10-24-2003, 09:29 AM

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latinasojourn · 10-24-2003, 09:31 AM

you have to understand something.

acacia is being very clumsy about noticing entities.

many don't even have video, a few don't even have websites.

all of the cases are unique.

they need to WIN A COURT CASE on every website they want to shut down.

SEE THEM IN COURT.

Far-L · 10-24-2003, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CHMOD

I hope you are right...

The thing is that they ALLREADY have an injuction from court.

Now my question is:

With that injuction, do they really have to go to court EACH time they want to close a website ?

I don't think so. They just have to show the injuction to your webhost ans that's it. Your site is down.

This is my feeling but I'm not a lwayer and I would really like an accurate answer on this.

Too many people talking off their asses here.

Actually, they cannot close anyone down "willy nilly". They have to get an injunction against each individual company. The only reason they got those other injunctions is because those companies were served with a FORMAL NOTICE, not some threatening letter that is delivered to a mailbox.

Acacia has been threatening to FORMALLY SERVE more people for months... That November deadline is just another deadline ultimatum... and we have heard every month that they will serve more but they have not.

This is not to say that they won't... I am just saying that have been terrible about delivering on promises.

Just because they got injunctions against companies that did not respond to a FORMAL request to appear, does not mean that they can get an injunction against you without DUE PROCESS.

An unregistered letter to a po box does not count.

latinasojourn · 10-24-2003, 10:26 AM

thank you Far-L for reiterating the point.

you are a leader, and it is good to hear it from the leader.

we know that you can't say too much because we have seen that acacia plays dirty.

acacia is watching this board very carefully. They are weighing the "mood" here very carefully.

They KNOW that sending out formal demands means that they will have to deliver on promises to go to court.

And IF the sentiment here is that most everyone WANTS to see them in court it WILL call their bluff.

THEY CAN'T TAKE 10,000 USA webmasters to court. Not on this flimsy patent.

NO MATTER WHAT JIVE THEY SAY ON YNOT --- Taking 10,000 USA webmasters to court will put them on the sidewalk.

Plenty of $ in the bank they say. IT'S INVESTORS MONEY SILLY, and investors are beginning to take note if you watch the stock dip.

Demand your day in court!

Theo · 10-24-2003, 10:37 AM

this thread should be reference for every webmaster

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10-24-2003, 01:12 AM	#55
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	the primary way of fighting acacia is by not settling. Personally I would push the limits through the legal system if needed.

10-24-2003, 02:19 AM	#56
johnbosh Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands, Rotterdam Posts: 8,965	I hate acacia

10-24-2003, 09:31 AM	#61
latinasojourn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,191	you have to understand something. acacia is being very clumsy about noticing entities. many don't even have video, a few don't even have websites. all of the cases are unique. they need to WIN A COURT CASE on every website they want to shut down. SEE THEM IN COURT.

10-24-2003, 10:26 AM	#63
latinasojourn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,191	thank you Far-L for reiterating the point. you are a leader, and it is good to hear it from the leader. we know that you can't say too much because we have seen that acacia plays dirty. acacia is watching this board very carefully. They are weighing the "mood" here very carefully. They KNOW that sending out formal demands means that they will have to deliver on promises to go to court. And IF the sentiment here is that most everyone WANTS to see them in court it WILL call their bluff. THEY CAN'T TAKE 10,000 USA webmasters to court. Not on this flimsy patent. NO MATTER WHAT JIVE THEY SAY ON YNOT --- Taking 10,000 USA webmasters to court will put them on the sidewalk. Plenty of $ in the bank they say. IT'S INVESTORS MONEY SILLY, and investors are beginning to take note if you watch the stock dip. Demand your day in court!

10-24-2003, 10:37 AM	#64
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	this thread should be reference for every webmaster