Acacia Letter Update - 10/23/2003 8:58Pm EST - GoFuckYourself.com

PimpMeNot · 10-23-2003, 06:06 PM

I have seen several post from Matrix content on this board claiming that they did not divulge their customer database. Now hear this.

I got off the phone with Acacia a little while ago, they told me that I was infringing on their patent with 2 of my websites, one of the two domain names does not belong to me anymore, I let it drop and did not renew it, the other one is a plain TGP.

1st point: Those are the exact 2 domains that I listed on Matrix content as licence's domains.

2nd point: Acacia told me that even if you link to a sponsor, and even if that sponsor has paid the licence fee; YOU HAVE TO PAY ACACIA AS WELL!!! If you link to a sponsor that has not settled with them, then they told me that they will sue you for, hear this: "PATENT INFRINGEMENT FACILITATION"

gin · 10-23-2003, 06:07 PM

double jepordy, they cannot do that, would get thrown out of a court room , i would fight this if you are just the affiliate

doober · 10-23-2003, 06:08 PM

sounds like they are double dipping from ass to mouth

Sly_RJ · 10-23-2003, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by PimpMeNot

2nd point: Acacia told me that even if you link to a sponsor, and even if that sponsor has paid the licence fee; YOU HAVE TO PAY ACACIA AS WELL!!!

Sweet! Double dipping in action!

DerekT · 10-23-2003, 06:09 PM

I think that the sponsors and content providers that are providing affiliate information are really shooting themselves in the foot. They will loose all the trust of the webmaster community and ultimately, will loose most of their business.

gin · 10-23-2003, 06:09 PM

if the sponsor has already paid their 2% they cannot get another 2% from some one working there, that is a total of 4% not 2% and im sure if alot of sponsors knew all of their affiliates would be fucked with they would defend them?, because they are basically the boss of a business, but who knows

SomeCreep · 10-23-2003, 06:12 PM

Please... those are some lame ass scare tactics. Tell them to go fuck themselves, see what they do.

Mr.Fiction · 10-23-2003, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by PimpMeNot

I got off the phone with Acacia a little while ago, they told me that I was infringing on their patent with 2 of my websites, one of the two domain names does not belong to me anymore, I let it drop and did not renew it, the other one is a plain TGP.

1st point: Those are the exact 2 domains that I listed on Matrix content as licence's domains.

Matrix again.

PimpMeNot · 10-23-2003, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep
Please... those are some lame ass scare tactics. Tell them to go fuck themselves, see what they do.

That is what comes to my mind, but this is America, if someone sues you. then you must defend yourself. For anyboy that has an iota of intelligence and technical knowlege, this Acacia patent bullshit is frivolous and outrageaous, but how do you know that the judge that will hear you knows anything about this kind of matter??? A damn patent & technology firm charges an arm and a leg to represent you, so they're betting on the fact that most people will pay to not be bothered. What's next? The patent on hyperlink?

BRISK · 10-23-2003, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by PimpMeNot
2nd point: Acacia told me that even if you link to a sponsor, and even if that sponsor has paid the licence fee; YOU HAVE TO PAY ACACIA AS WELL!!!

Didn't Hustler and Vivid say in their joint statement that anyone who promotes them is safe from Acacia?

Sly_RJ · 10-23-2003, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by PimpMeNot

The patent on hyperlink?

That's already been tried. And failed.

GFED · 10-23-2003, 06:25 PM

icedemon · 10-23-2003, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by PimpMeNot

The patent on hyperlink?

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

That's already been tried. And failed.

That's what I was going to say. Someone with a patent on hyperlinks was thinking of sueing everybody with a website and lost in the first court case.

JSA Matt · 10-23-2003, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Matrix again.

Exactly. Everyone I have talked to is pointing their fingers at Matrix Content. Of course, they deny it and call me a liar but why would they let the cat out of the bag? That's bad business on their end.

GFED · 10-24-2003, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PimpMeNot
2nd point: Acacia told me that even if you link to a sponsor, and even if that sponsor has paid the licence fee; YOU HAVE TO PAY ACACIA AS WELL!!! If you link to a sponsor that has not settled with them, then they told me that they will sue you for, hear this: "PATENT INFRINGEMENT FACILITATION"

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rooster · 10-24-2003, 09:26 AM

On oprano someone said they are pretty sure they got info from CE too.

The Truth Hurts · 10-24-2003, 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt

Exactly. Everyone I have talked to is pointing their fingers at Matrix Content. Of course, they deny it and call me a liar but why would they let the cat out of the bag? That's bad business on their end.

Matrix has my address info wrong,
and I got the letter today all the same.

voodooman · 10-24-2003, 09:31 AM

Our content guy got a letter, and he is just an employee, but
its his name on the contact for Matrix.

Proof enough for me.

webair · 10-24-2003, 09:32 AM

I'd like to hear matrix comments on this

get the popcorn out

http://www.impai.org

voodooman · 10-24-2003, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by webair
I'd like to hear matrix comments on this

get the popcorn out

http://www.impai.org

Good Luck.

Im sure their attorneys have told them to say
nothing.

LadyMischief · 10-24-2003, 09:36 AM

Yeah, and they said they wouldn't dip into the income stream more than once.. The fucking idiots.. what the hell do they think this is!? They have NO idea how badly they are screwing themselves.

Serge_Oprano · 10-24-2003, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts

Matrix has my address info wrong,
and I got the letter today all the same.

because Serge is watching you
;-)))

GFED · 10-24-2003, 10:04 AM

GFED · 10-24-2003, 11:54 AM

GFED · 10-24-2003, 01:34 PM

Ron · 10-24-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK

Didn't Hustler and Vivid say in their joint statement that anyone who promotes them is safe from Acacia?

you mean this:

http://www.avnonline.com/issues/2003...100703_1.shtml

daddynastee · 10-24-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by doober
sounds like they are double dipping from ass to mouth

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

caspuh · 10-24-2003, 03:52 PM

when it's all said and done remember who tried to fuck you running. will you support them when acacia is all dried up and they say "business is business".

10-23-2003, 06:06 PM	#1
PimpMeNot Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pimp Land Posts: 342	Acacia Letter Update - 10/23/2003 8:58Pm EST I have seen several post from Matrix content on this board claiming that they did not divulge their customer database. Now hear this. I got off the phone with Acacia a little while ago, they told me that I was infringing on their patent with 2 of my websites, one of the two domain names does not belong to me anymore, I let it drop and did not renew it, the other one is a plain TGP. 1st point: Those are the exact 2 domains that I listed on Matrix content as licence's domains. 2nd point: Acacia told me that even if you link to a sponsor, and even if that sponsor has paid the licence fee; YOU HAVE TO PAY ACACIA AS WELL!!! If you link to a sponsor that has not settled with them, then they told me that they will sue you for, hear this: "PATENT INFRINGEMENT FACILITATION" __________________ yes

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10-23-2003, 06:07 PM	#2
gin Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 672	double jepordy, they cannot do that, would get thrown out of a court room , i would fight this if you are just the affiliate

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doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	sounds like they are double dipping from ass to mouth

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DerekT Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 112	I think that the sponsors and content providers that are providing affiliate information are really shooting themselves in the foot. They will loose all the trust of the webmaster community and ultimately, will loose most of their business.

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rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	On oprano someone said they are pretty sure they got info from CE too.

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voodooman Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 801	Our content guy got a letter, and he is just an employee, but its his name on the contact for Matrix. Proof enough for me.

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caspuh Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 56	when it's all said and done remember who tried to fuck you running. will you support them when acacia is all dried up and they say "business is business".