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  • Giorgio_Xo
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2003
    • 4263

    #241
    Originally posted by Ken

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    Giorgio,


    Sorry, but you are 100% wrong and you should be careful about coming to fast assumptions and making false accusations. Your irresponsible and false accusations could hurt our business and we take that very seriously.

    Neither Hustler nor Vivid has given (or ever will give) Acacia ANY affiliate information. Period.

    I expect you to provide proof of your allegations or post a retraction and an apology immediately.
    I am stating fact. These are the only two affiliates I have signed up with that are a party to licencing deals with Acacia. My real name is not public knowledge.

    I am not liable for any apology. If my comments about Hustler and Vivid defame to the point of hurting your business, your business is already sunk. The last time I checked with Hoover's both Hustler and Vivid were both doing $100MM in sales a year. A poor little webmaster with 25,000 uniques make you feel scared?

    Hustler, et al shouldn't have cut a deal.
    Make Levees, Not War

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    • Giorgio_Xo
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2003
      • 4263

      #242
      Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


      Did you ever buy content from Matrix content?

      There are a number of threads where people have mentioned Matrix as a possible sell out.

      I don't know, I am just reposting what others have said here on GFY.
      I only serve escort ads on my network. All secondary income comes from affiliate-only sales. I do not stream or push any video or audio content, nor do I have a paysite section.

      I have never purchased content from Matrix.
      Make Levees, Not War

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      • Giorgio_Xo
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2003
        • 4263

        #243
        Originally posted by Tipsy
        Why do so many people think that the published list includes all the companies that have signed? Odd notion.
        You do have a point. Luckily I have only signed up with a small amount of sponsors. I could gather a list.
        Make Levees, Not War

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        • Hooper
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 2210

          #244
          Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo Fuck you Hustler and Vivid. You get no business from me. You violated my right to privacy.
          You dont promote ANY other sponsors and never have ever? I find that a little hard to believe.
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          • basschick
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2001
            • 2540

            #245
            the letter i got used a nickname i rarely use, and neither hustler, vivid nor matrix have that nickname. i'm pretty sure ce does not have it either.

            any more ideas on who it could be?
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            • Giorgio_Xo
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2003
              • 4263

              #246
              Originally posted by Hooper


              You dont promote ANY other sponsors and never have ever? I find that a little hard to believe.
              True. As I stated in another post, I am gathering a complete list which should be quite easy since the vast majority were sign-ups after March.
              Make Levees, Not War

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              • InsaneGreen
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2003
                • 996

                #247
                damn, i had to read 2 pages to catch up since i left last night and didnt come up with anything worth reading. thanks guys
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                • Ken
                  Make more with us.
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 562

                  #248
                  Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo


                  I am stating fact. These are the only two affiliates I have signed up with that are a party to licencing deals with Acacia. My real name is not public knowledge.

                  I am not liable for any apology. If my comments about Hustler and Vivid defame to the point of hurting your business, your business is already sunk. The last time I checked with Hoover's both Hustler and Vivid were both doing $100MM in sales a year. A poor little webmaster with 25,000 uniques make you feel scared?

                  Hustler, et al shouldn't have cut a deal.
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                  You said "You violated my right to privacy.".

                  That is NOT a fact. This is a false statement and I don't take it lightly.

                  We did not share your information, nor will we ever share any affiliate information unless we were forced to by a court order.

                  Last night Fletch XXX jumped the gun and named Hustler as the possible culprit. Upon further investigation he apologized and acknowledged that he jumped to conclusions to fast. I was not happy with his initial statement, but he was smart enough to investigate further and man enough to admit his mistake. Are you?

                  You are entitled to your opinion about Hustler and Vivid settling, however, you are not entitled to make false accusations.
                  Ken


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                  • Ken
                    Make more with us.
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 562

                    #249
                    Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo


                    True. As I stated in another post, I am gathering a complete list which should be quite easy since the vast majority were sign-ups after March.
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                    Wait...first you were sure it was Hustler and Vivid and now you're gathering a list? Why am I not surprised.....

                    I'm growing very tired of all the finger pointing without any hard facts.
                    Ken


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                    • Bladewire
                      StraightBro
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 56228

                      #250
                      Originally posted by Ken

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                      Wait...first you were sure it was Hustler and Vivid and now you're gathering a list? Why am I not surprised.....

                      I'm growing very tired of all the finger pointing without any hard facts.
                      You know Ken sometimes finger pointing is the process of elimination.

                      I give you credit. You are one of the few standing here in defense of companies you work for.

                      There are many companies that have not posted one word in their defense.

                      I think Giorgio_Xo might be jumping the gun a bit but I think you are as well. You don't need to say "I'm gonna sue you if you talk bad about me" for people to know where you're coming from. A lot of people feel like they're drowning and don't need more threats when they come up for air.


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                      • SomeCreep
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                        • Mar 2003
                        • 26118

                        #251
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                        • Ken
                          Make more with us.
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 562

                          #252
                          Originally posted by Squirtit


                          You know Ken sometimes finger pointing is the process of elimination.

                          I give you credit. You are one of the few standing here in defense of companies you work for.

                          There are many companies that have not posted one word in their defense.

                          I think Giorgio_Xo might be jumping the gun a bit but I think you are as well. You don't need to say "I'm gonna sue you if you talk bad about me" for people to know where you're coming from. A lot of people feel like they're drowning and don't need more threats when they come up for air.
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                          Squirtit,

                          I understand your point, but finger pointing can be harmful and dangerous if it's done irresponsibly. It's one thing to say "It's possible that Hustler did it because they were one of the companies who settled". It's totally different to say that we DID do it with no facts, no proof...just assumptions.

                          Fletch XXX made that assumption last night, but we resolved our dispute very quickly because he was smart enough to double check his facts and then had the balls to apologize after he found out that things didn't add up.

                          I didn't threaten to sue anyone. I just asked for an apology and a retraction unless he could prove his accusations (which I know he can't because I personally have control over the affiliate databases of Hustler and Vivid).

                          This is a hot issue for everyone involved and I would be beyond pissed if someone shared my personal or company info with another company, so I understand why everyone is so hot.

                          However, we have a long history of being honest and treating our affiliates well, so I don't like being accused of something that is totally false.
                          Ken


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                          • BRISK
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 12240

                            #253
                            Ken, didn't Hustler and Vivid say in their joint statement that anyone who promotes them is safe from Acacia?
                            I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                            I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                            • Holly
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 10017

                              #254
                              Originally posted by Ken

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                              Wait...first you were sure it was Hustler and Vivid and now you're gathering a list? Why am I not surprised.....

                              I'm growing very tired of all the finger pointing without any hard facts.
                              You know what I'm growing tired of, Ken? You and your stupid posts. STFU. What are you gonna do? Call the internet police? Start suing affiliates and webmasters right in the middle of all this shit? Seems like your attorneys would all be busy right now working out your sweetheart deals.

                              Go away. Or why don't you go patent that revolutionary concept you claimed you guys came up with- raising webmaster payouts!!
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                              • doober
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 6984

                                #255
                                Originally posted by BRISK
                                Ken, didn't Hustler and Vivid say in their joint statement that anyone who promotes them is safe from Acacia?
                                ya right....
                                at the rate they are mass snail mail spamming everyone and their dog how can they keep track of whats what anymore?

                                Seems like a big scam, and whats worse is they are fucking up large in a few ways

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