ahhh well gotta sleep soon
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I dont believe Scores Cash shut down because of acacia because they did settle.Originally posted by ZoiNk
Acacia shut down their hosting, they moved to new hosting, settled with acacia, and went down again about a month ago and told ppl to pull all their links. No clue why they aren't back up. They settled with them.
ZoiNk
But what the hell happened? I mean shutting down an entire program without reason.Comment
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September 25th - http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=179159
Today - www.scorescash.com
How funny is that?I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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Goddamn, 2 hours of nothing.
Its 5:30 in the morning here.
I give you guys 10 mins more to come up with a name
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Originally posted by Platinum Dave
I dont believe Scores Cash shut down because of acacia because they did settle.
But what the hell happened? I mean shutting down an entire program without reason.
Source: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...a_8kex99-1.txt
In September 2003, the Acacia Technologies group caused 42 websites owned by Go Entertainment, Inc. to be closed down. The websites were continuing to utilize Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology in violation of a court order. The U.S. District Court for the Central District of California issued an injunction prohibiting Go Entertainment from continuing to use Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology without a license. The Acacia Technologies group successfully enforced the injunction against Go Entertainment's web hosting company.
On September 22, 2003, the Acacia Technologies group entered into a license agreement for its DMT technology with Go Entertainment, Inc.
ZoiNk"People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry FordComment
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hit me on icq, and i will tell ya what my thoughts are, but its gotta be in the next 3 min or so.Originally posted by Battuss
Goddamn, 2 hours of nothing.
Its 5:30 in the morning here.
I give you guys 10 mins more to come up with a name
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They settled after that though and were back upOriginally posted by ZoiNk
Source: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...a_8kex99-1.txt
In September 2003, the Acacia Technologies group caused 42 websites owned by Go Entertainment, Inc. to be closed down. The websites were continuing to utilize Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology in violation of a court order. The U.S. District Court for the Central District of California issued an injunction prohibiting Go Entertainment from continuing to use Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology without a license. The Acacia Technologies group successfully enforced the injunction against Go Entertainment's web hosting company.
On September 22, 2003, the Acacia Technologies group entered into a license agreement for its DMT technology with Go Entertainment, Inc.
ZoiNkI post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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Wait, dont go...Originally posted by freeadultcontent
hit me on icq, and i will tell ya what my thoughts are, but its gotta be in the next 3 min or so.
cant find your icq.Comment
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that is a ZOINK for sure ...Originally posted by ZoiNk
Source: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...a_8kex99-1.txt
In September 2003, the Acacia Technologies group caused 42 websites owned by Go Entertainment, Inc. to be closed down. The websites were continuing to utilize Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology in violation of a court order. The U.S. District Court for the Central District of California issued an injunction prohibiting Go Entertainment from continuing to use Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology without a license. The Acacia Technologies group successfully enforced the injunction against Go Entertainment's web hosting company.
On September 22, 2003, the Acacia Technologies group entered into a license agreement for its DMT technology with Go Entertainment, Inc.
ZoiNk
a bouble zoinkComment
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Heheh got itComment
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And the question remains ...Originally posted by BRISK
They settled after that though and were back up
how are you proving your "grosse sales" to calculate the 2%?
When Acacia says - "we don't believe your sales figures" now what? Give them all your affiliate details right?Comment
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They wouldn't care if they don't have/depend on affiliates. If they provide a service to webmasters or take payments from them, they'd still have addresses.War National Damn Champions EagleComment
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Ahh and the plot thickens.
Thanks freeadultcontent, i will sleep better now.Comment
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I'm not following your post ...Originally posted by Holly
They wouldn't care if they don't have/depend on affiliates. If they provide a service to webmasters or take payments from them, they'd still have addresses.
please rewordComment
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Companies who've gone belly up (think: processors) lately, or know that they soon will be, don't have much to lose either.Last edited by Holly; 10-22-2003, 07:39 PM.War National Damn Champions EagleComment
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How's this:Originally posted by sexeducation
I'm not following your post ...
please reword
Fuck off, eat shit, and die, you sick pedo child molester.War National Damn Champions EagleComment
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for the love of R-n.
affiliates in our business and the way we refer to them is NOTHING like what the legal term that acacia is using means.
acacia uses affiliates to refer to companies owned by your company. like gm owns direct tv. so directtv is an affiliate of gm.
but my local magazine advertises direct tv, and lots of local entrepreneurs sell direct tv for a comission. that makes them "advertisers" and "comissioned sales reps"... not affiliates.
the phrase "affiliate marketing" has gotten all twisted out of shape.<a href="http://www.adultplatinum.com/"><img src="http://www.adult.com/wmbanners/10dcash-468x60.gif"></a>Comment
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things other than boycotting can be done to a RATOriginally posted by Hooper
i'll tell you this much. boycotting them wont do a damned thing. they dont give a fuck.This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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Yes, but an affiliate program still could have provided their affiliates details in order to cut a sweet deal.Originally posted by Hooper
for the love of R-n.
affiliates in our business and the way we refer to them is NOTHING like what the legal term that acacia is using means.
acacia uses affiliates to refer to companies owned by your company. like gm owns direct tv. so directtv is an affiliate of gm.
but my local magazine advertises direct tv, and lots of local entrepreneurs sell direct tv for a comission. that makes them "advertisers" and "comissioned sales reps"... not affiliates.
the phrase "affiliate marketing" has gotten all twisted out of shape.I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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Yes ...Originally posted by BRISK
Yes, but an affiliate program still could have provided their affiliates details in order to cut a sweet deal.
it's like double and triple dipping ...
<h3>I will NOT report to ACACIA - ever!</3>
They have NO right to my membership database.Comment
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And the only reason they were shut down is they didn't respond to summons and didn't show up to court. Default judgement?Originally posted by ZoiNk
Source: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...a_8kex99-1.txt
In September 2003, the Acacia Technologies group caused 42 websites owned by Go Entertainment, Inc. to be closed down. The websites were continuing to utilize Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology in violation of a court order. The U.S. District Court for the Central District of California issued an injunction prohibiting Go Entertainment from continuing to use Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology without a license. The Acacia Technologies group successfully enforced the injunction against Go Entertainment's web hosting company.
On September 22, 2003, the Acacia Technologies group entered into a license agreement for its DMT technology with Go Entertainment, Inc.
ZoiNk
Not until they responded after having their sites shut down did they get back up.
Skype: CallTomNow
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Man ...Originally posted by Squirtit
And the only reason they were shut down is they didn't respond to summons and didn't show up to court. Default judgement?
Not until they responded after having their sites shut down did they get back up.
I wish they would sue me ...Comment
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by sexeducation
And the question remains ...
how are you proving your "grosse sales" to calculate the 2%?
When Acacia says - "we don't believe your sales figures" now what? Give them all your affiliate details right?
sexeducation,
What does affiliate info have to do with gross sales? They can confirm gross sales with tax returns, etc. They do not need affiliate info, nor would it help them confirm anything. Most large programs produce a lot of their own traffic and there is no direct and accurate coloration between affiliates and gross sales.
Speaking on behalf of Hustler, if they wanted to verify gross sales, we could easily do that without ever giving affiliate information. If they requested affiliate information for ANY reason we would deny them. Period.Comment
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Acacia asks for percentage of sales from processors.Originally posted by Ken
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sexeducation,
What does affiliate info have to do with gross sales? They can confirm gross sales with tax returns, etc. They do not need affiliate info, nor would it help them confirm anything. Most large programs produce a lot of their own traffic and there is no direct and accurate coloration between affiliates and gross sales.
Speaking on behalf of Hustler, if they wanted to verify gross sales, we could easily do that without ever giving affiliate information. If they requested affiliate information for ANY reason we would deny them. Period.
Epoch/iBill/CCbill give up this information.Comment
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That's what you are saying ...Originally posted by Ken
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sexeducation,
What does affiliate info have to do with gross sales? They can confirm gross sales with tax returns, etc. They do not need affiliate info, nor would it help them confirm anything. Most large programs produce a lot of their own traffic and there is no direct and accurate coloration between affiliates and gross sales.
Speaking on behalf of Hustler, if they wanted to verify gross sales, we could easily do that without ever giving affiliate information. If they requested affiliate information for ANY reason we would deny them. Period.
and you have valid points ..
But so is it a valid point - "aaah lets just settle - it's only 2%" ...
and so it is a valid point - "aaah it's to much work - just dump the affililiate dbase and give it to them" ... "one more step won't matter" ...
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What information are they giving up?Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Acacia asks for percentage of sales from processors.
Epoch/iBill/CCbill give up this information.
Credit Card Numbers ?
First Names ...
Last Names ...
Addresses ...
It's a simple question ...
<H3>I will NOT report to ACACIA who my members are.</h3>Comment
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In our contact with Acacia ... our lawyers were careful to specifically state that 'gross sales' only applies to membership sales.
That is Epoch, CCbill, iBill, WTS Checks, Electracash Checks, etc ... revenue
and nothing else.
So any audit would only require providing revenue info for these processors -- and this would be done through our accounting / law firrms.
No webmaster information was ever nor will ever be released.Platinum Dan
$40.00 a signup, 80% Revenue Share, Earn Platinum Rewards points with each signup.Comment
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They want total sales
they want percentage of sales
processors give them sales totals
thats it.Comment
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Dave ...Originally posted by Platinum Dave
They want total sales
they want percentage of sales
processors give them sales totals
thats it.
this is NOT confrontational to you personally or GFY the gracious hosts of this board ...
BULLSHIT ...
and when Acacia says; "we don't believe your sales figures PROVE THEM ... now what?"Comment
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They knock on Paycom door and ask for sales for the year \Originally posted by sexeducation
Dave ...
this is NOT confrontational to you personally or GFY the gracious hosts of this board ...
BULLSHIT ...
and when Acacia says; "we don't believe your sales figures PROVE THEM ... now what?"
and epoch gives it to themComment
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For the uninformed posting in this thread:
SexEd is a half-crazed, kiddie loving, pervert who is completely delusional. Please don't waste your time responding to him or thinking that he actually has a lucid thought in his demented head.
On a side note, you will also be noticing that he will continue to post and ramble in this thread for hours (or till the booze/pills drops him), even though no one is addressing him. He will also be putting unrelated and unimportant phrases/words in "quotation marks" and announcing idiotic things such as, "I will not report to Acacia!!!!" "They have no rights to my member's database!!!" "Where do I get the report form??", etc. Of course, no one gives a shit about any of this, or knows what he's talking about.
This can easily be confirmed with virtually any member of this board.
Thanks.War National Damn Champions EagleComment
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OK - and what does Epoch give them?Originally posted by Platinum Dave
They knock on Paycom door and ask for sales for the year \
and epoch gives it to them
Credit Numbers traceable to home ("billing") addresses?
What information do I need to provide Acacia to PROVE my sales?Comment
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And you know what ...Originally posted by Platinum Dave
They knock on Paycom door and ask for sales for the year \
and epoch gives it to them
I have 20 years of direct sales experience ...
who the hell says I need to sell online ...
Now what information are they going to ask me to PROVE my sales totals?Comment
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Originally posted by Holly
For the uninformed posting in this thread:
SexEd is a half-crazed, kiddie loving, pervert who is completely delusional. Please don't waste your time responding to him or thinking that he actually has a lucid thought in his demented head.
On a side note, you will also be noticing that he will continue to post and ramble in this thread for hours (or till the booze/pills drops him), even though no one is addressing him. He will also be putting unrelated and unimportant phrases/words in "quotation marks" and announcing idiotic things such as, "I will not report to Acacia!!!!" "They have no rights to my member's database!!!" "Where do I get the report form??", etc. Of course, no one gives a shit about any of this, or knows what he's talking about.
This can easily be confirmed with virtually any member of this board.
Thanks.
Yep! The retard even posted the following in another thread:
What the fuck is he talking about????I've decided to inform my 20,000 double opt in members about Acacia during the first ever "data base" update and request input on whether I should report their details of membership to Acacia as it seems is being asked.Comment
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Not only how do they prove your infoOriginally posted by sexeducation
And you know what ...
I have 20 years of direct sales experience ...
who the hell says I need to sell online ...
Now what information are they going to ask me to PROVE my sales totals?
what are they going to shut down, what can they get from you?
it just doesnt make sence they are sending these packages to just anyoneComment
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What bothers me about all this is they want gross sales; so say:
$1000 of your ccbill gross -- you really end up with about $500-600 of that after affiliate payments, and ccbills thirteen percent.
It seems that they want your gross sales, so even if it is that 2% you are really giving 4% or more of your income, because the true gross in my opinion is what you get as deposits from ccbill after all those payments.
But I guess that they do not look at it this way, and that is what really gets to me.Comment
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Originally posted by Platinum Dan
In our contact with Acacia ... our lawyers were careful to specifically state that 'gross sales' only applies to membership sales.
That is Epoch, CCbill, iBill, WTS Checks, Electracash Checks, etc ... revenue
and nothing else.
So any audit would only require providing revenue info for these processors -- and this would be done through our accounting / law firrms.
No webmaster information was ever nor will ever be released.
Skype: CallTomNow
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Sexeducation is completely off his nut today. Classic.
I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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Originally posted by sexeducation
And you know what ...
I have 20 years of pedophelia experience ...
who the hell says I need to be with grown ups...
Now what information are they going to ask me to PROVE my love of children?
I really wish you would stay out of these threads man. You give everythign such a pedophelic karma. DIe bitch.Comment
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answer the question anyone?Originally posted by sexeducation
And you know what ...
I have 20 years of direct sales experience ...
who the hell says I need to sell online ...
Now what information are they going to ask me to PROVE my sales totals?
What will Acacia ask me to PROVE to them I am submitting the correct amount of money - from my door to door sales?
Think about it ...
THE CUSTOMER DETAILS of my magazine subscriptions ...
The answer is no ...
<h3>I will NEVER report to Acacia !</h3>Comment
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Acacia doesnt know the difference between Platinum eMedia and your companyOriginally posted by sexeducation
answer the question anyone?
What will Acacia ask me to PROVE to them I am submitting the correct amount of money - from my door to door sales?
Think about it ...
THE CUSTOMER DETAILS of my magazine subscriptions ...
The answer is no ...
<h3>I will NEVER report to Acacia !</h3>
they just send a package to everyone and anyoneComment
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So nutty he is.I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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This is just a sign of desperation
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Wow is this true Platinum Dave... is this how their cut is worked out?Originally posted by FTVGirls
What bothers me about all this is they want gross sales; so say:
$1000 of your ccbill gross -- you really end up with about $500-600 of that after affiliate payments, and ccbills thirteen percent.
It seems that they want your gross sales, so even if it is that 2% you are really giving 4% or more of your income, because the true gross in my opinion is what you get as deposits from ccbill after all those payments.
But I guess that they do not look at it this way, and that is what really gets to me.
Skype: CallTomNow
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I haven't received a package ...Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Acacia doesnt know the difference between Platinum eMedia and your company
they just send a package to everyone and anyone
I just want to be sued...
It's insanity ...the whole thing is "stock manipulation" and "Enron" in my mind ... IMHOLast edited by sexeducation; 10-22-2003, 08:23 PM.Comment
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Do you have video on your site? If yes, then post a link to it here.Originally posted by sexeducation
I haven't receive a package ...
I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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So what would be the proper response if you receive a random package and are not in any way associated with streaming video?Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Acacia doesnt know the difference between Platinum eMedia and your company
they just send a package to everyone and anyoneComment
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No one has any idea. He's like that crazy relative every family has. All the family members get used to the craziness after awhile and don't really notice it anymore. Eventually, the person starts acting loony with people outside the family who don't understand, then someone has to try and explain to the outsider. Usually, it's to keep the loony relative from going to jail or getting his/her ass beat. In this case that would be welcomed; this is just to keep others from wasting their time replying to him.Originally posted by jennym
What the fuck is he talking about????
btw- did you notice the "I WILL NEVER REPORT TO ACACIA!?"
It's all downhill from here for the remainder of the evening.War National Damn Champions EagleComment
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Quite confirmed.. The guy doesn't even run a true adult website.. He runs a sexeducation site that he uses to "educate" people, and he advertises it on places where children frequent, such as horseforums.com. Don't waste your time with himOriginally posted by Holly
For the uninformed posting in this thread:
SexEd is a half-crazed, kiddie loving, pervert who is completely delusional. Please don't waste your time responding to him or thinking that he actually has a lucid thought in his demented head.
On a side note, you will also be noticing that he will continue to post and ramble in this thread for hours (or till the booze/pills drops him), even though no one is addressing him. He will also be putting unrelated and unimportant phrases/words in "quotation marks" and announcing idiotic things such as, "I will not report to Acacia!!!!" "They have no rights to my member's database!!!" "Where do I get the report form??", etc. Of course, no one gives a shit about any of this, or knows what he's talking about.
This can easily be confirmed with virtually any member of this board.
Thanks.
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