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I am not liable for any apology. If my comments about Hustler and Vivid defame to the point of hurting your business, your business is already sunk. The last time I checked with Hoover's both Hustler and Vivid were both doing $100MM in sales a year. A poor little webmaster with 25,000 uniques make you feel scared? Hustler, et al shouldn't have cut a deal. |
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I have never purchased content from Matrix. |
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the letter i got used a nickname i rarely use, and neither hustler, vivid nor matrix have that nickname. i'm pretty sure ce does not have it either.
any more ideas on who it could be? |
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damn, i had to read 2 pages to catch up since i left last night and didnt come up with anything worth reading. thanks guys:glugglug
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You said "You violated my right to privacy.". That is NOT a fact. This is a false statement and I don't take it lightly. We did not share your information, nor will we ever share any affiliate information unless we were forced to by a court order. Last night Fletch XXX jumped the gun and named Hustler as the possible culprit. Upon further investigation he apologized and acknowledged that he jumped to conclusions to fast. I was not happy with his initial statement, but he was smart enough to investigate further and man enough to admit his mistake. Are you? You are entitled to your opinion about Hustler and Vivid settling, however, you are not entitled to make false accusations. |
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Wait...first you were sure it was Hustler and Vivid and now you're gathering a list? Why am I not surprised..... I'm growing very tired of all the finger pointing without any hard facts. |
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I give you credit. You are one of the few standing here in defense of companies you work for. There are many companies that have not posted one word in their defense. I think Giorgio_Xo might be jumping the gun a bit but I think you are as well. You don't need to say "I'm gonna sue you if you talk bad about me" for people to know where you're coming from. A lot of people feel like they're drowning and don't need more threats when they come up for air. :2 cents: |
250 rats :glugglug
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Squirtit, I understand your point, but finger pointing can be harmful and dangerous if it's done irresponsibly. It's one thing to say "It's possible that Hustler did it because they were one of the companies who settled". It's totally different to say that we DID do it with no facts, no proof...just assumptions. Fletch XXX made that assumption last night, but we resolved our dispute very quickly because he was smart enough to double check his facts and then had the balls to apologize after he found out that things didn't add up. I didn't threaten to sue anyone. I just asked for an apology and a retraction unless he could prove his accusations (which I know he can't because I personally have control over the affiliate databases of Hustler and Vivid). This is a hot issue for everyone involved and I would be beyond pissed if someone shared my personal or company info with another company, so I understand why everyone is so hot. However, we have a long history of being honest and treating our affiliates well, so I don't like being accused of something that is totally false. |
Ken, didn't Hustler and Vivid say in their joint statement that anyone who promotes them is safe from Acacia?
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Go away. Or why don't you go patent that revolutionary concept you claimed you guys came up with- raising webmaster payouts!! |
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at the rate they are mass snail mail spamming everyone and their dog how can they keep track of whats what anymore? Seems like a big scam, and whats worse is they are fucking up large in a few ways |
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Wow, Holly. My suggestion would be to take a step back and breathe. I've known Ken for years, as a matter of fact without him I wouldn't be here today. And that post is out of line. |
Ken, Acacia is saying that even if you promote a sponsor that has settled with them, you will still need to pay fees.
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It could mean that Hustler/Vivid licence includes a blanket coverage for all affiliates. The 2% Acacia tax is backed out of Hustler's back-end. |
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Ken has always been honest, and straight forward since day one. |
i'm inclined to believe ken.
there IS a rat but it's not ken.... I'm leaning towards matrix........ |
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Not even worth responding to. Lens should charge you a fee for the space you just wasted on his board.... |
i was under the impression that hustler made a special deal in order to include its affiliates in their license.
and it's easy enough to figure out who is using hustler as their sponsor by looking at the link. if it links to hustler, viola! |
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Of course there is a rat but I checked my mailbox and received no letter, and I am signed up with matrix and a few others on the list. :) |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike AI
[B] Holly, sounds like you have an axe to grind that has nothing to do with Acacia. You trying to push some kind of agenda? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike....I was thinking the same thing. Wonder who Holly is and why she's such a hater? ;) |
Hellooooooooo Ken? I had a question!
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Ya know what I'm tired of? Patiently watching my sexy man answer Acacia posts while snuggling my cat. Can he please take a break for a bit? I need to occupy his time for about... uhm... two minutes or so ;) http://boobiebucks.com/cat/kittyken.jpg |
Kimmy, Sleazy, MikeAI,
Thanks for the words of support. I appreciate it! |
KEN, I POSTED A QUESTION
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BRISK, Sorry....trying to do too many things at once. For the traffic you send to Hustler or Vivid you are NOT infringing their patent. For traffic you are sending to sponsors who have not settled, you might be infringing their patent. |
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But her post clarified things! :1orglaugh |
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You might want to phone Acacia and ask yourself (just don't tell them who you work for), see what they tell you. |
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http://www.leenoga.com/pix/kimmykim.gif And you are vouching for Ken? :1orglaugh BTW this post is not mean or spitefull in any way.. I respect Ken and Kimmy and am just puting things into perspective :) P.S. The history of this picture can be found here |
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BRISK, We actually helped LFP and Vivid negotiate the settlement agreements and I've spoken with Rob Berman on several occasions to clarify certain issues. This was one of those issues. He told me and our contract states that our affiliates will NOT be held liable for contributing to patent infringement for the traffic they send to us. Now, if we have an affiliate who is also sending traffic elsewhere, they could be infringing with that traffic and they could be liable for the revenue associated with that traffic. |
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I feel left out. :( Guess, respecting your wishes to leave the companies names that you represent (which were posted on the list) and mentioning another company is not the proper way of supporting you. Oh well, :) |
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