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BRISK 10-22-2003 10:30 PM

Imagine if the US government had a video on its website, could Acacia then demand 2% of gross government revenue?

MandyD 10-22-2003 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Holly

No one has any idea. He's like that crazy relative every family has. All the family members get used to the craziness after awhile and don't really notice it anymore. Eventually, the person starts acting loony with people outside the family who don't understand, then someone has to try and explain to the outsider. Usually, it's to keep the loony relative from going to jail or getting his/her ass beat. In this case that would be welcomed; this is just to keep others from wasting their time replying to him.

btw- did you notice the "I WILL NEVER REPORT TO ACACIA!?"
It's all downhill from here for the remainder of the evening.

As usual Holly, you are spot on! :thumbsup

masta flash 10-22-2003 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
Imagine if the US government had a video on its website, could Acacia then demand 2% of gross government revenue?
sure could

sexeducation 10-22-2003 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by Holly

Hellsangels? In Alberta? Hmmm...know any way to pass along info to them?

I know several Hells Angel types.

They believe in female equality.
: )

Who wouldn't?

Mike AI 10-22-2003 10:33 PM

What I do not understand is why would Plat Bucks settle if they are a Canadien corporation. I wonder how that worked out. Also remember there were a number of rounds of letters going out....

sexeducation 10-22-2003 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by masta flash


sure could

If Acacia is a true patent then the government must pay also,
for their digital transmissions called DMT ?

ZoiNk 10-22-2003 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
What I do not understand is why would Plat Bucks settle if they are a Canadien corporation. I wonder how that worked out. Also remember there were a number of rounds of letters going out....
Are they just canadian corp? Aren't they under Visa US for processing? Would have to have some corperate US ties then, which would mean the patent applies, but I am sure dave will clear that up.
ZoiNk

sexeducation 10-22-2003 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
Imagine if the US government had a video on its website, could Acacia then demand 2% of gross government revenue?
I think so ...
That's why I asked earlier if NASA had to report to Acacia,
and how that would work?

LadyMischief 10-22-2003 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
What I do not understand is why would Plat Bucks settle if they are a Canadien corporation. I wonder how that worked out. Also remember there were a number of rounds of letters going out....
If they have a US corporation for processing, or anything like that, bang, they are not longer strictly Canadian jurisdiction anymore.

sexeducation 10-22-2003 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


If they have a US corporation for processing, or anything like that, bang, they are not longer strictly Canadian jurisdiction anymore.

Yes - risk management.
I hear you.
Are we ever going to meet?

goBigtime 10-22-2003 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave

I am but a tiny part of their revenue

Actually on Yahoo someone posted....

"43 licences at $2000 each wow how great" also he said "I bet it will be around $100,000 form licences"


To which you responded:

"Thats funny cause my company settled and we should make up your entire pretiction of revenues alone. "

(At least I think it was you. Platinum_Investor is you right?)

So the guy is guessing $100k... you are suggesting you contributed that much or almost that much on your own.

Dave, that's not a tiny part of their revenue. That's over half of what they reported for that past quarter.

If you've been trading this stock... man, I dunno, but it can't be good.

420 10-22-2003 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime


Actually on Yahoo someone posted....

"43 licences at $2000 each wow how great" also he said "I bet it will be around $100,000 form licences"


To which you responded:

"Thats funny cause my company settled and we should make up your entire pretiction of revenues alone. "


So the guy is guessing $100k... you are suggesting you contributed that much or almost that much on your own.

Dave, that's not a tiny part of their revenue. That's over half of what they reported for that past quarter.

:uhoh

BRISK 10-22-2003 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by sexeducation


Yes - risk management.
I hear you.
Are we ever going to meet?

:1orglaugh

LadyMischief 10-22-2003 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by sexeducation


Yes - risk management.
I hear you.
Are we ever going to meet?

Believe me, you don't want to meet me next time I'm in Calgary. I have children to consider, and I don't think I could hold myself responsible for my actions. better to avoid the situation altogether, for my kids if nothing else.

sexeducation 10-22-2003 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime


Actually on Yahoo someone posted....

"43 licences at $2000 each wow how great" also he said "I bet it will be around $100,000 form licences"


To which you responded:

"Thats funny cause my company settled and we should make up your entire pretiction of revenues alone. "

(At least I think it was you. Platinum_Investor is you right?)

So the guy is guessing $100k... you are suggesting you contributed that much or almost that much on your own.

Dave, that's not a tiny part of their revenue. That's over half of what they reported for that past quarter.

If you've been trading this stock... man, I dunno, but it can't be good.


?

BRISK 10-22-2003 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


Believe me, you don't want to meet me next time I'm in Calgary. I have children to consider, and I don't think I could hold myself responsible for my actions. better to avoid the situation altogether, for my kids if nothing else.

Who are you to resist the wit and charm of sexeducation? :1orglaugh

Holly 10-22-2003 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


Yes - risk management.
I hear you.
Are we ever going to meet?

Yes. The whole board is flying/driving in for your bond hearing.

makefuckingmoney 10-22-2003 10:56 PM

Damn

well..if you know your gonna settle..buy a bunch of stock,settle, turn over your affilates, then cash in big time!

well..thats one hypothetical isnt it?

pump and dump!

LadyMischief 10-22-2003 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK


Who are you to resist the wit and charm of sexeducation? :1orglaugh

Someone who is smart enough to know what I am capable of when faced with someone or something that horrifies/disgusts/pisses me off as much as this cracker does. As a mother, I find his very existance loathesome. As I said, I would be far better off to avoid the situation, as this loser is absolutely not worth going to jail over, EVER. He will get what he deserves some day, because what goes around comes around.

LadyMischief 10-22-2003 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
Damn

well..if you know your gonna settle..buy a bunch of stock,settle, turn over your affilates, then cash in big time!

well..thats one hypothetical isnt it?

pump and dump!

Apparently, people are already doing that.

goBigtime 10-22-2003 10:58 PM

This whole thing just bums me out. :(

BRISK 10-22-2003 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


Someone who is smart enough to know what I am capable of when faced with someone or something that horrifies/disgusts/pisses me off as much as this cracker does. As a mother, I find his very existance loathesome. As I said, I would be far better off to avoid the situation, as this loser is absolutely not worth going to jail over, EVER. He will get what he deserves some day, because what goes around comes around.

Probably better that you don't get together anyway, I don't think the relationship would work out. You're a bit old for him, you already graduated elementary school.

LadyMischief 10-22-2003 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK


Probably better that you don't get together anyway, I don't think the relationship would work out. You're a bit old for him, you already graduated elementary school.

Very true :) Kind of worries me that I have friends who have kids in Calgary though.. I keep them up to date, along with the Calgary Police. Let the proper authorities handle him. Until then, well, I can laugh at him here :P

Bladewire 10-22-2003 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Far-L
FTV Girls: Sounds to me that you are seeing the light through the murk of what Acacia is saying.

Confusion, mistrust, doubt, threats, insults, and false promises... these are the weapons at their disposal..

I like how they told their shareholders today that they are not facing any lawsuits...

They must have forgotten all our cases and the countersuit we hit them with... wonder what the SEC would think about that kind of omission in reports to their shareholders...

Excellent point! I listened to the whole thing.. but.. did they say flat out that they are not facing any lawsuits? I'm gonna have to listen again.

By the looks of the posts on yahoo finance... we are not the only ones who thing Acacia is shady

Bladewire 10-22-2003 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by Far-L
The IMPA has a goal of hiring a mainstream publicist. We are aware of the need for public awareness since these types of lawsuits are becoming more and more pandemic to the business world and stunting innovation.
I think that's awesome! I know a 4 time Emmy award winning reporter and will call in a favor when the time is right.

Far-L... any way these little guys can joint your suit ? The guys that are going to end up getting served soon? $35k is a lot for most of them to pay.. what about $3k or $4k??

Bladewire 10-22-2003 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by Far-L
I talked to a webmaster yesterday that told me that she talked to Berman on the phone and that he got very irate while explaining to her that she should have to pay 2% of her gross sales, which is based almost exclusively on pictures and sales of panties and bras, regardless of how much video was on her site.

All the big folks that settled thus far... they got sweet heart deals... Acacia will not, in fact they cannot, beat these deals and now their confidence is at an all time high and they are asking steeper gross percentage numbers.

In keeping with their slash and burn method of licensing, they are still content to not explain in detail how anyone is possibly infringing their patent in favor of threatening devasting legal action.

Many other companies besides Homegrown are in the "eye of the hurricane" here...Video Secrets, Gamelink, Lightspeed, Top Bucks, AEBN, Ademia, Audio Communications, ARS, and more... These are the companies spending serious cash to fight this and putting more than just their integrity on the line.

We intend to win this thing and prove that no one should be paying that license. Acacia wants to take 150 to 200 million out of our industry. From my business perspective, and from my freedom of speech, I say that it is well worth it to challenge their claim and make them accountable.

We look forward to our day in court.

I really enjoy someone else being passionate about this and speaking out. So refreshing!! I love it! :)

Hooper 10-23-2003 07:29 AM

this thread got real boring somehow.

i guess that's what happens when i dont stay involved.

Mike AI 10-23-2003 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by Hooper
this thread got real boring somehow.

i guess that's what happens when i dont stay involved.

OK Brad!

:winkwink:

magnatique 10-23-2003 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
Imagine if the US government had a video on its website, could Acacia then demand 2% of gross government revenue?

I wonder what they would answer to that lol...


"Ladies and Gentlemen, According to ACACIA's Claims of Owning the DMT Technology, every company using Such technology as "streaming" or "downloading" any form of video clip would be inclined to give 2% of the gross revenue away as a liscence.

According to our observations, The US Government has been using the DMT Technology for quite some time... Please take the time to analyse if 2% of 4,000+ Billion dollars every year for the past XX years since the debut of the patent is a rightful claim. Would 80 billions a year for a liscence fee make any sense to you at all? Now each of the defendants don't gross 4000+ billions a year... but the same reasoning stand."


LOL

Platinum Dave 10-23-2003 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime


Actually on Yahoo someone posted....

"43 licences at $2000 each wow how great" also he said "I bet it will be around $100,000 form licences"


To which you responded:

"Thats funny cause my company settled and we should make up your entire pretiction of revenues alone. "

(At least I think it was you. Platinum_Investor is you right?)

So the guy is guessing $100k... you are suggesting you contributed that much or almost that much on your own.

Dave, that's not a tiny part of their revenue. That's over half of what they reported for that past quarter.

If you've been trading this stock... man, I dunno, but it can't be good.

The revenue that Acacia stated was for the past Q.

We settled one week ago. So our revenue will go into their next quarter which they say will be 1 million plus.

It was a guess before earnings came out, how much Acacia earned from licence agreements.

Bladewire 10-23-2003 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by Hooper
this thread got real boring somehow.

i guess that's what happens when i dont stay involved.

Talk about boring.. anyone listen to this guys show last night?

PULLING TEETH

Hoopers show = An expensive ugly date that doesn't put out!

Peaches 10-23-2003 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI
What I do not understand is why would Plat Bucks settle if they are a Canadien corporation. I wonder how that worked out. Also remember there were a number of rounds of letters going out....
I don't think it matters where you're located if you do business in the US. CE settled and they're an offshore (Curacao?) company. :(

Bladewire 10-23-2003 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches

I don't think it matters where you're located if you do business in the US. CE settled and they're an offshore (Curacao?) company. :(

Some of the people that have settled have already stated that Acacia asked for affiliate info in the settlement.

Giorgio_Xo 10-23-2003 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Platinum Dave


Yea bought and sold, called day trading.

Do I own any now? Thank god no way down in afterhours.

Mike please dont accuse me for doing something I didnt do.

I trade stocks, acacia is a volitile stock.

Does not mean I settled with acacia and gave them any information on any affiliate.

That is 100% not true I have a good reputation I would never do such thing.

Do you realize you violated SEC rules?

Peaches 10-23-2003 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Squirtit


Some of the people that have settled have already stated that Acacia asked for affiliate info in the settlement.

I was responding to why a country outside the US would settle at all and not addressing the affiliate situation. :)

Giorgio_Xo 10-23-2003 04:06 PM

I received the Acacia letter a few minutes ago. The letter was addressed with my real name which is not known except by the companies I signed up as an affiliate. From the Acacia settlement list, I signed up with Hustler and Vivid only. My real name does not appear with my domain registrar.

Fuck you Hustler and Vivid. You get no business from me. You violated my right to privacy.

I phoned Acacia to tell them that their patent didn't apply to me since I only dish out escort ads. Funny that the only two people that could legally explain the issues to me were 'out of town'.

Ken 10-23-2003 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
I received the Acacia letter a few minutes ago. The letter was addressed with my real name which is not known except by the companies I signed up as an affiliate. From the Acacia settlement list, I signed up with Hustler and Vivid only. My real name does not appear with my domain registrar.

Fuck you Hustler and Vivid. You get no business from me. You violated my right to privacy.

I phoned Acacia to tell them that their patent didn't apply to me since I only dish out escort ads. Funny that the only two people that could legally explain the issues to me were 'out of town'.

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Giorgio,


Sorry, but you are 100% wrong and you should be careful about coming to fast assumptions and making false accusations. Your irresponsible and false accusations could hurt our business and we take that very seriously.

Neither Hustler nor Vivid has given (or ever will give) Acacia ANY affiliate information. Period.

I expect you to provide proof of your allegations or post a retraction and an apology immediately.

silver 10-23-2003 04:32 PM

THIER BEING BACKED BY THE US GOVERMENT , AOL , MS.
WHO IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK GAVE THEM YOUR INFO ?

Tipsy 10-23-2003 04:38 PM

Why do so many people think that the published list includes all the companies that have signed? Odd notion.

Mr.Fiction 10-23-2003 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
I received the Acacia letter a few minutes ago. The letter was addressed with my real name which is not known except by the companies I signed up as an affiliate. From the Acacia settlement list, I signed up with Hustler and Vivid only. My real name does not appear with my domain registrar.

Fuck you Hustler and Vivid. You get no business from me. You violated my right to privacy.

I phoned Acacia to tell them that their patent didn't apply to me since I only dish out escort ads. Funny that the only two people that could legally explain the issues to me were 'out of town'.

Did you ever buy content from Matrix content?

There are a number of threads where people have mentioned Matrix as a possible sell out.

I don't know, I am just reposting what others have said here on GFY.

Giorgio_Xo 10-23-2003 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by Ken

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Giorgio,


Sorry, but you are 100% wrong and you should be careful about coming to fast assumptions and making false accusations. Your irresponsible and false accusations could hurt our business and we take that very seriously.

Neither Hustler nor Vivid has given (or ever will give) Acacia ANY affiliate information. Period.

I expect you to provide proof of your allegations or post a retraction and an apology immediately.

I am stating fact. These are the only two affiliates I have signed up with that are a party to licencing deals with Acacia. My real name is not public knowledge.

I am not liable for any apology. If my comments about Hustler and Vivid defame to the point of hurting your business, your business is already sunk. The last time I checked with Hoover's both Hustler and Vivid were both doing $100MM in sales a year. A poor little webmaster with 25,000 uniques make you feel scared?

Hustler, et al shouldn't have cut a deal.

Giorgio_Xo 10-23-2003 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Did you ever buy content from Matrix content?

There are a number of threads where people have mentioned Matrix as a possible sell out.

I don't know, I am just reposting what others have said here on GFY.

I only serve escort ads on my network. All secondary income comes from affiliate-only sales. I do not stream or push any video or audio content, nor do I have a paysite section.

I have never purchased content from Matrix.

Giorgio_Xo 10-23-2003 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
Why do so many people think that the published list includes all the companies that have signed? Odd notion.
You do have a point. Luckily I have only signed up with a small amount of sponsors. I could gather a list.

Hooper 10-23-2003 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo Fuck you Hustler and Vivid. You get no business from me. You violated my right to privacy.
You dont promote ANY other sponsors and never have ever? I find that a little hard to believe.

basschick 10-23-2003 04:55 PM

the letter i got used a nickname i rarely use, and neither hustler, vivid nor matrix have that nickname. i'm pretty sure ce does not have it either.

any more ideas on who it could be?

Giorgio_Xo 10-23-2003 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper


You dont promote ANY other sponsors and never have ever? I find that a little hard to believe.

True. As I stated in another post, I am gathering a complete list which should be quite easy since the vast majority were sign-ups after March.

InsaneGreen 10-23-2003 05:10 PM

damn, i had to read 2 pages to catch up since i left last night and didnt come up with anything worth reading. thanks guys:glugglug

Ken 10-23-2003 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo


I am stating fact. These are the only two affiliates I have signed up with that are a party to licencing deals with Acacia. My real name is not public knowledge.

I am not liable for any apology. If my comments about Hustler and Vivid defame to the point of hurting your business, your business is already sunk. The last time I checked with Hoover's both Hustler and Vivid were both doing $100MM in sales a year. A poor little webmaster with 25,000 uniques make you feel scared?

Hustler, et al shouldn't have cut a deal.

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You said "You violated my right to privacy.".

That is NOT a fact. This is a false statement and I don't take it lightly.

We did not share your information, nor will we ever share any affiliate information unless we were forced to by a court order.

Last night Fletch XXX jumped the gun and named Hustler as the possible culprit. Upon further investigation he apologized and acknowledged that he jumped to conclusions to fast. I was not happy with his initial statement, but he was smart enough to investigate further and man enough to admit his mistake. Are you?

You are entitled to your opinion about Hustler and Vivid settling, however, you are not entitled to make false accusations.

Ken 10-23-2003 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo


True. As I stated in another post, I am gathering a complete list which should be quite easy since the vast majority were sign-ups after March.

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Wait...first you were sure it was Hustler and Vivid and now you're gathering a list? Why am I not surprised.....

I'm growing very tired of all the finger pointing without any hard facts.

Bladewire 10-23-2003 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Ken

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Wait...first you were sure it was Hustler and Vivid and now you're gathering a list? Why am I not surprised.....

I'm growing very tired of all the finger pointing without any hard facts.

You know Ken sometimes finger pointing is the process of elimination.

I give you credit. You are one of the few standing here in defense of companies you work for.

There are many companies that have not posted one word in their defense.

I think Giorgio_Xo might be jumping the gun a bit but I think you are as well. You don't need to say "I'm gonna sue you if you talk bad about me" for people to know where you're coming from. A lot of people feel like they're drowning and don't need more threats when they come up for air. :2 cents:


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