ahhh well gotta sleep soon

I dont believe Scores Cash shut down because of acacia because they did settle.

But what the hell happened? I mean shutting down an entire program without reason.

September 25th - http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=179159

Today - www.scorescash.com

How funny is that?

Goddamn, 2 hours of nothing.

Its 5:30 in the morning here.

I give you guys 10 mins more to come up with a name :)

Source: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...a_8kex99-1.txt

In September 2003, the Acacia Technologies group caused 42 websites owned by Go Entertainment, Inc. to be closed down. The websites were continuing to utilize Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology in violation of a court order. The U.S. District Court for the Central District of California issued an injunction prohibiting Go Entertainment from continuing to use Acacia Technologies group's DMT technology without a license. The Acacia Technologies group successfully enforced the injunction against Go Entertainment's web hosting company.
On September 22, 2003, the Acacia Technologies group entered into a license agreement for its DMT technology with Go Entertainment, Inc.

ZoiNk

hit me on icq, and i will tell ya what my thoughts are, but its gotta be in the next 3 min or so.

They settled after that though and were back up

Wait, dont go...

cant find your icq.

that is a ZOINK for sure ...
a bouble zoink

Heheh got it

And the question remains ...
how are you proving your "grosse sales" to calculate the 2%?

When Acacia says - "we don't believe your sales figures" now what? Give them all your affiliate details right?

They wouldn't care if they don't have/depend on affiliates. If they provide a service to webmasters or take payments from them, they'd still have addresses.

Ahh and the plot thickens.

Thanks freeadultcontent, i will sleep better now.

I'm not following your post ...
please reword

Companies who've gone belly up (think: processors) lately, or know that they soon will be, don't have much to lose either.

How's this:

Fuck off, eat shit, and die, you sick pedo child molester.

for the love of R-n.

affiliates in our business and the way we refer to them is NOTHING like what the legal term that acacia is using means.

acacia uses affiliates to refer to companies owned by your company. like gm owns direct tv. so directtv is an affiliate of gm.

but my local magazine advertises direct tv, and lots of local entrepreneurs sell direct tv for a comission. that makes them "advertisers" and "comissioned sales reps"... not affiliates.

the phrase "affiliate marketing" has gotten all twisted out of shape.

things other than boycotting can be done to a RAT

Yes, but an affiliate program still could have provided their affiliates details in order to cut a sweet deal.

Yes ...
it's like double and triple dipping ...

<h3>I will NOT report to ACACIA - ever!</3>

They have NO right to my membership database.

And the only reason they were shut down is they didn't respond to summons and didn't show up to court. Default judgement?

Not until they responded after having their sites shut down did they get back up.

Man ...
I wish they would sue me ...

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sexeducation,


What does affiliate info have to do with gross sales? They can confirm gross sales with tax returns, etc. They do not need affiliate info, nor would it help them confirm anything. Most large programs produce a lot of their own traffic and there is no direct and accurate coloration between affiliates and gross sales.

Speaking on behalf of Hustler, if they wanted to verify gross sales, we could easily do that without ever giving affiliate information. If they requested affiliate information for ANY reason we would deny them. Period.

Acacia asks for percentage of sales from processors.

Epoch/iBill/CCbill give up this information.

That's what you are saying ...
and you have valid points ..

But so is it a valid point - "aaah lets just settle - it's only 2%" ...

and so it is a valid point - "aaah it's to much work - just dump the affililiate dbase and give it to them" ... "one more step won't matter" ...
?

What information are they giving up?
Credit Card Numbers ?
First Names ...
Last Names ...
Addresses ...

It's a simple question ...

<H3>I will NOT report to ACACIA who my members are.</h3>

In our contact with Acacia ... our lawyers were careful to specifically state that 'gross sales' only applies to membership sales.

That is Epoch, CCbill, iBill, WTS Checks, Electracash Checks, etc ... revenue

and nothing else.

So any audit would only require providing revenue info for these processors -- and this would be done through our accounting / law firrms.

No webmaster information was ever nor will ever be released.

They want total sales

they want percentage of sales

processors give them sales totals

thats it.

Dave ...
this is NOT confrontational to you personally or GFY the gracious hosts of this board ...

BULLSHIT ...
and when Acacia says; "we don't believe your sales figures PROVE THEM ... now what?"

They knock on Paycom door and ask for sales for the year \

and epoch gives it to them

For the uninformed posting in this thread:

SexEd is a half-crazed, kiddie loving, pervert who is completely delusional. Please don't waste your time responding to him or thinking that he actually has a lucid thought in his demented head.

On a side note, you will also be noticing that he will continue to post and ramble in this thread for hours (or till the booze/pills drops him), even though no one is addressing him. He will also be putting unrelated and unimportant phrases/words in "quotation marks" and announcing idiotic things such as, "I will not report to Acacia!!!!" "They have no rights to my member's database!!!" "Where do I get the report form??", etc. Of course, no one gives a shit about any of this, or knows what he's talking about.

This can easily be confirmed with virtually any member of this board.

Thanks.

OK - and what does Epoch give them?
Credit Numbers traceable to home ("billing") addresses?

What information do I need to provide Acacia to PROVE my sales?

And you know what ...
I have 20 years of direct sales experience ...

who the hell says I need to sell online ...

Now what information are they going to ask me to PROVE my sales totals?

Yep! The retard even posted the following in another thread:

What the fuck is he talking about????

Not only how do they prove your info

what are they going to shut down, what can they get from you?

it just doesnt make sence they are sending these packages to just anyone

What bothers me about all this is they want gross sales; so say:

$1000 of your ccbill gross -- you really end up with about $500-600 of that after affiliate payments, and ccbills thirteen percent.

It seems that they want your gross sales, so even if it is that 2% you are really giving 4% or more of your income, because the true gross in my opinion is what you get as deposits from ccbill after all those payments.

But I guess that they do not look at it this way, and that is what really gets to me.

:thumbsup

Sexeducation is completely off his nut today. Classic. :1orglaugh

I really wish you would stay out of these threads man. You give everythign such a pedophelic karma. DIe bitch.

answer the question anyone?
What will Acacia ask me to PROVE to them I am submitting the correct amount of money - from my door to door sales?

Think about it ...

THE CUSTOMER DETAILS of my magazine subscriptions ...
The answer is no ...

<h3>I will NEVER report to Acacia !</h3>

:thumbsup

Acacia doesnt know the difference between Platinum eMedia and your company

they just send a package to everyone and anyone

So nutty he is.

This is just a sign of desperation :2 cents:

Wow is this true Platinum Dave... is this how their cut is worked out?

I haven't received a package ...
I just want to be sued...

It's insanity ...the whole thing is "stock manipulation" and "Enron" in my mind ... IMHO

Do you have video on your site? If yes, then post a link to it here.

So what would be the proper response if you receive a random package and are not in any way associated with streaming video?

No one has any idea. He's like that crazy relative every family has. All the family members get used to the craziness after awhile and don't really notice it anymore. Eventually, the person starts acting loony with people outside the family who don't understand, then someone has to try and explain to the outsider. Usually, it's to keep the loony relative from going to jail or getting his/her ass beat. In this case that would be welcomed; this is just to keep others from wasting their time replying to him.

btw- did you notice the "I WILL NEVER REPORT TO ACACIA!?"
It's all downhill from here for the remainder of the evening.

Quite confirmed.. The guy doesn't even run a true adult website.. He runs a sexeducation site that he uses to "educate" people, and he advertises it on places where children frequent, such as horseforums.com. Don't waste your time with him :)