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Paul Markham 10-23-2003 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy


what would be the problem with that? if my company rents a car and I sell the company the car is still being rented by the company, all they'd have to change would be license numbers of the drivers for insurance and you'd be ready to go.

So what you are saying is you would have to go to Hertz and sort it out. Sounds fine to me thanks for agreeing. :thumbsup

bhutocracy 10-23-2003 04:27 AM

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Originally posted by charly
So what you are saying is you would have to go to Hertz and sort it out. Sounds fine to me thanks for agreeing. :thumbsup
no I would just have to change info not pay again, and thats only because of their insurance - they wouldn't get any more or less money.

jeroman 10-23-2003 04:28 AM

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Originally posted by charly
I think you had best look very closely at the license you bought from me, it is not transferable.

You do not have the license to sell my content.

Anyone considering buying these sites had best check out all the content licenses, will probably find they are not transferable.

Why do you have such an license ?
What if he sells his name along with the sale then it's ok.
Just like a company.

Usally we setup a bunch of URLs along with the license.
If the pix is still on the url what different does it make if it's
not the guy fromt he start anymore ?

Here's a TIP when you sell a site:

Sell everything BUT you keep your name on the license
and you are a non profit partner for life without any
responsibilities regarding anything.

bhutocracy 10-23-2003 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by jeroman


Why do you have such an license ?
What if he sells his name along with the sale then it's ok.
Just like a company.

Usally we setup a bunch of URLs along with the license.
If the pix is still on the url what different does it make if it's
not the guy fromt he start anymore ?

Here's a TIP when you sell a site:

Sell everything BUT you keep your name on the license
and you are a non profit partner for life without any
responsibilities regarding anything.

or like broke said, just use your business.

Johny Traffic 10-23-2003 04:29 AM

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No that's not the lesson.

f the license was granted to a business the business would retain rights to the content despite a change in ownership. For god's sake why would someone enter a content licensing agreement as an individual.


The lesson is treat your business as a business.
Exactly! People here need to learn about business practice before posting.


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So what you are saying is you would have to go to Hertz and sort it out. Sounds fine to me thanks for agreeing.
Youve obviously never rented a car, we have 5 cars on lease here, when someone leaves you think we phone up the leasing company? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

bhutocracy 10-23-2003 04:31 AM

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Originally posted by Johny Traffic

Exactly! People here need to learn about business practice before posting.

that was kinda implicit in "reading the license" but whatever.

ControlThy 10-23-2003 04:35 AM

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Originally posted by broke


No that's not the lesson.

If the license was granted to a business the business would retain rights to the content despite a change in ownership. For god's sake why would someone enter a content licensing agreement as an individual.


The lesson is treat your business as a business.

Sounds logical.....

BlueDesignStudios 10-23-2003 04:36 AM

fiddy :glugglug

Zayne E. 10-23-2003 04:37 AM

I had a brief conversation with Matrix regarding selling pre-made tours with their content and they said it was fine so long as the buyer was registered with Matrix so they could KEEP TRACK OF who had their content. They made no mention of additional fees of any type.

:2 cents:

And on business in general...falling back on "it says it's not transferable [in your license]" is silly. You wrote it. You can save your business by changing it. My terms of service say that I will not work without a 50% deposit. But guess what? I might if I know you and if I don't ...well ...it might be more

:winkwink:

Kevin2 10-23-2003 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by charly
So what you are saying is you would have to go to Hertz and sort it out. Sounds fine to me thanks for agreeing. :thumbsup
Charly stop being a dumb fuck man. You aren't renting the fucking content for a monthly fee like a hertz rental :feels-hot

What is your problem with the content staying with the domain? It isn't exposing the content any more than it currently is. You have the reasoning of an old goat mate :thumbsup

Paul Markham 10-23-2003 04:38 AM

Instead of screaming about acting as a business, may'be you should look at contracts before you click on the box that says "I agree"

Also acting as a business, he should get in contact with me before he makes an offer to sell something he does not own, or he may not. Also the majority of people who buy content from me do it as an INDIVIDUAL not as a company, also am I meant to go searching to see who he is, because of his mistakes?

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Content in Teen Sites is from Paul Markham, David Lace, Max Candy and some others. There is a small amount of Matrix content which WILL NOT be transferred. Licence paperwork will be posted to new owner after completion of sale. email [email protected] for a username/password for the teen sites
Any reason he will not post the licenses before he gets his money, or am I being paranoid?

And yes I have contacted him by email and ICQ before I posted here.

bhutocracy 10-23-2003 04:40 AM

hahah im arguing and disagreeing with myself cause I'm misreading... fuck it's time for bed..

Johny Traffic 10-23-2003 04:43 AM

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he should get in contact with me before he makes an offer to sell something he does not own
Hes not selling your content hes selling his business.


A business is a item in its own entirety. The people who work for the business or even own the business are NOT the business, if a business changes shareholders or employees, that makes no difference it?s the same business, the debts are still due to that business whoever in the company run those debts up. They still own the assets and still owned money by their creditors.

Kevin2 10-23-2003 04:45 AM

forget it Johhny he will not understand or maybe doesn't want to understand.

pantymaniac 10-23-2003 04:47 AM

do you give his money back when he dont use your content anymore ?

Johny Traffic 10-23-2003 04:48 AM

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forget it Johhny he will not understand or maybe doesn't want to understand.
I think your right and its a good indication of his knowledge of the law..... I would seriously think about someone selling content who doesnt understand basic business practices, especially when buying content incase hes also managed not to have the proper paperwork reguarding important things like model id,s and permision..... makes you think before buying doesnt it

Paul Markham 10-23-2003 04:51 AM

Kevin
I just want to know who he is selling it to and the courtesy of the guy doing business as he agreed to when he bought the content. Or is it just that you can agree to one thing one minute and then when it suits you just change the agreement?

Like today we can give you 50% of all sign ups and tomorrow we can't, and we will not tell you about it either. There are set ways to do business, one is to read a contract and if you agree to it, STICK TO THE DEAL.

Nice to see how many of you think licenses, contracts and aggreements are irrelevant when it suits you.

I think these things are important, If I don't agree to it I dont sign up to it. Just a different perspective I suppose.

I'm off to see Bob Dylan so you can carry on without me. :)

Kevin2 10-23-2003 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by pantymaniac
do you give his money back when he dont use your content anymore ?
LOL very good point and knowing Charly's logic the older the content is the more valuable it is like wine or something :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Johny Traffic 10-23-2003 04:54 AM

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I think these things are important, If I don't agree to it I dont sign up to it. Just a different perspective I suppose
we are looking at it as businesses, how are you looking at it?

Gethro 10-23-2003 05:02 AM

And nobody even has commented on why he wants out, any Australians out there better watch out....

Kevin2 10-23-2003 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by Gethro
And nobody even has commented on why he wants out, any Australians out there better watch out....
Why? All Australians host their sites off shore which is perfectly legal here. You are allowed to have all your sites and content on your server in Victoria as long as you don't host it here LOL.

Another dumb law they have in Victoria is you can shoot hardcore pics but not video.

AdultKing 10-23-2003 05:47 AM

My business DVXPRESS licenced the content, my business is for sale. The business retains ownership of the content . My business Paypal account was used to transact these purchases, its open and closed.. no argument. Thats the end of the matter.

As far as the accusation that my site is a rip off of someone elses, it's not. It may look similar, but then again any teen site with pastel colours, love hearts, cupid arrows and bow style borders is bound to look similar in a world of black background sites with nasty looking whores and in your face text.

The "Sweet Teens" logo has been around since 1996.. the site colours have been in use on various incarnations of these and other sites for years.

broke 10-23-2003 05:48 AM

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Originally posted by OzMedia
My business DVXPRESS licenced the content, my business is for sale. The business retains ownership of the content . My business Paypal account was used to transact these purchases, its open and closed.. no argument. Thats the end of the matter.
:thumbsup

HQ 10-23-2003 06:33 AM

I'm selling my TGPs and domains. See sig or contact me.

brand0n 10-23-2003 06:36 AM

like a hawk charly watchs his content

peterk 07-07-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 2578657)
I think you had best look very closely at the license you bought from me, it is not transferable.

You do not have the license to sell my content.

Anyone considering buying these sites had best check out all the content licenses, will probably find they are not transferable.



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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 2578714)
Let's explain. A license is just that, the purchaser is buying a license to put the content on HIS site. It clearly states in the contract that is is not transferable. Otherwise we have no control over it.

If someone wants to buy the content with the right to resell it they can do so, but not at the price that does not include this option.

What if someone decided to sell a password to a paysite? I suggest you read licenses before you buy anything.

What if it was sold to site A with 1,000 members. Who decided to sell to to a guy who was pushing 100,000 through the site every month?


Funny how times have changed. From crazy rules to now he can't even give it away. Good job Paul!

fuzebox 07-07-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by peterk (Post 19048660)
Funny how times have changed. From crazy rules to now he can't even give it away. Good job Paul!

This thread delivers :glugglug

VenusBlogger 07-07-2012 11:36 PM

lol WTF is this?

Frank21 07-07-2012 11:43 PM

OMG started to read a fucking 9 years o;d thread and wondered why all the fucking links were dead.

amacontent 07-08-2012 12:20 AM

I thought you retired ?

amacontent 07-08-2012 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 19048689)
OMG started to read a fucking 9 years o;d thread and wondered why all the fucking links were dead.

LOL holy crap I didnt even realize the dates

Lykos 07-08-2012 12:39 AM

9 long years :)

free6xtube 07-08-2012 01:15 AM

Content should be limited to the site and not owner, because what if owner want to change niche? atleast to the domain thats resnoble... sorry spelling :)

seXXXhub 07-08-2012 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pantymaniac (Post 2579538)
do you give his money back when he dont use your content anymore ?

+1 :thumbsup:1orglaugh

MPGdevil 07-08-2012 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by peterk (Post 19048660)
Funny how times have changed. From crazy rules to now he can't even give it away. Good job Paul!

Funny how people now need to bump 9 year old threads to get attention.

slapass 07-08-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL (Post 2579297)
Charly you're taking an approach that will kill your future sales.

If a corp has assets and new shareholders take over the corp. the claim you're stating that the new owners would need to rebuy the content is absurd.

KRL hasn't posted in 6 years... yet, - Last Activity: 06-24-2012 03:21 PM

ilnjscb 07-08-2012 07:41 AM

People may be confusing persons with businesses, both legal entities in the eyes of contract law.

If AK's business is selling the site, content is non-transferable, because the content would need to be transferred to a new owner. If he is selling the business, the legal entity which licensed the content, then the content is not transferring, only ownership of the owner. In the latter case the content is NOT transferring.

If Pepsi licenses your content and new shareholders buy it, that is not your content transferring.

B.Barnato 07-08-2012 08:26 AM

:1orglaugh


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