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10-22-2003, 06:50 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ken
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Originally posted by gin
amazing. not even 1 sponsor has defended themselves. there is probably some term on their pages when you sign up that says they can legally give out your information.

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gin,

I actually posted this quite a while ago in a different thread. Here it is again.......

Fletch XXX,

I ASSURE YOU that they are not getting ANY information from Hustler. We (WebQuest) maintain all of Hustler's affiliate information so I can personally gaurantee you that information is NOT being provided to Acacia by Hustler.

Hustler settled for it's own business reasons, but Hustler will NEVER assist Acacia in going after other companies in our industry.

I have a history and reputation of integrity and honesty in this business. You have my word that Hustler is not the culprit here.

Thanks Ken for your input.

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10-22-2003, 06:56 PM

i got my package today and the only website i even own is a 1 page doorway leading to a adult dvd site...and my site doesn't even have any videos on it.

so obviously, much like the others, it was a sponsor that gave them my info. unfortunately since i am signed up with several sponsors who have settled (CECash, TCG, maybe more), i don't know who leaked my name.

i'm wondering if i even need to reply to this crap - isn't it funny that what Acacia is basically doing is spamming webmasters with blackmail from a illegimtately gotten address list?

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10-22-2003, 06:58 PM

Ken

I sent you email last week about Fight the Patent Foundation and didn't get a response.

While there may be some clause in the contract that prevents an anti-acacia involvement....

FTPF is focused on patent abuse cases in general not focused just on Acacia.

Hustler could pledge to support FTPF, since there are other companies likes USA Video that have direct applications to Hustler for both the internet use of digital video, and Cable/VOD.

Hustler is an open target for the next video patent holder, and other patent cases.....

You have posted before that you and Hustler don't necessarily like to have to pay these patent licenses, so there is a way for you to join in the fight

If you notice, no names of those that have pledged are on my website, all information is kept confidential.

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10-22-2003, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by FightThisPatent
Ken

I sent you email last week about Fight the Patent Foundation and didn't get a response.

While there may be some clause in the contract that prevents an anti-acacia involvement....

FTPF is focused on patent abuse cases in general not focused just on Acacia.

Hustler could pledge to support FTPF, since there are other companies likes USA Video that have direct applications to Hustler for both the internet use of digital video, and Cable/VOD.

Hustler is an open target for the next video patent holder, and other patent cases.....

You have posted before that you and Hustler don't necessarily like to have to pay these patent licenses, so there is a way for you to join in the fight

If you notice, no names of those that have pledged are on my website, all information is kept confidential.

-brandon

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Brandon,

I will call you. I've just been totally swamped. I'll try and reach you tomorrow if possible....

Thanks,

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10-22-2003, 07:23 PM

Kens word is good enough for me. RRRED would beat him for doing anything under the table! Or make him buy a few other hairless cats!

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10-22-2003, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw
Kens word is good enough for me. RRRED would beat him for doing anything under the table! Or make him buy a few other hairless cats!

So his word is good enough for you... who the fuck are you? So you're satisfied.. now that's good enough for the rest of us? I don't even know who the hell you are... what have you done for me lately? You don't put money in my pocket.. you mean nothing to me! For all I know you're in on it!

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Though I don't know much about you and you definately don't put money in my pocket the rest was satire.

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10-22-2003, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw
Kens word is good enough for me. RRRED would beat him for doing anything under the table! Or make him buy a few other hairless cats!

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#173

10-22-2003, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by gin
bam, first one i looked at. cecash has that in their terms. if you are violating patent you are breaking their rules, wonder how many other affiliate programs have this? or if it's just them?

that's been in cecash's terms in one form or another for a long time.
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#174

10-22-2003, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by Flow
Way back when, when they did that Internet interview with Bergman (don't remember who did the interview, but it was good) they specifically asked about affiliates and the double dip potential.

Bergman pretty much said that if we license a company we (Acacia) cannot legally go after the affiliates (he said the legal definition of affiliate and the way it is used in the adult industry are different so I use this term loosely, as defined by the adult industry). He said that such a "double dip" is not allowed by law. So if they sign with an sponsor program, they cannot go after you to linking to their sites unless you are offering video on your own sites. Not sure how this applies to hosted video galleries, but by just having a text or banner link with your ref-code in it that links to a site that offers videos I am pretty sure you are safe. Of course, if you have videos on your sites - does not apply, but to link to an affiliate and have to pay these fees, in Bergmans own words is illegal.

Don't remember the specifics, but I think that sums it up pretty nicely.

Flow

Actually, it was the D$ show and if you remember, his definition of what an affiliate actually translates differently then your definition. He uses the "legal" definition of the term and unfortunately, under that guise, he is more than able to go after what we typify as "affiliates" because they are not true affiliates but actually independant marketers.

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#175

10-22-2003, 09:33 PM

you have a lot more to sweat about than acacia fees.

if these affiliate programs rolled over on your name and address then what else did they give up?

how about your tax info for what you got paid for sales and most of all your Social Security Number?

you can really ruin someones life with the right info.

is it legal to give up such info without a supena or an order from a judge?

just wondering, ya know?

did you give permission to make that info public?

this acacia crap is getting to be better than a dime store novel isn't it?

where ya think it is going to go next?
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10-22-2003, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by Far-L

Actually, it was the D$ show and if you remember, his definition of what an affiliate actually translates differently then your definition. He uses the "legal" definition of the term and unfortunately, under that guise, he is more than able to go after what we typify as "affiliates" because they are not true affiliates but actually independant marketers.

So the "legal" definition for affiliates encompasses our independent marketers aka affiliates? Other than affiliates ... what else can they go after?

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10-22-2003, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
you have a lot more to sweat about than acacia fees.

if these affiliate programs rolled over on your name and address then what else did they give up?

how about your tax info for what you got paid for sales and most of all your Social Security Number?

you can really ruin someones life with the right info.

is it legal to give up such info without a supena or an order from a judge?

just wondering, ya know?

did you give permission to make that info public?

this acacia crap is getting to be better than a dime store novel isn't it?

where ya think it is going to go next?

Yeah.. hard to know where things are going but it's not looking good!

I would hope that sponsors would NOT give my private info out and it would take a subpeona to get it.. but unfortunately some sponsor has given out our information to Acacia.

I want to know who it is.

I WANT A LIST OF THOSE THAT HAVE SETTLED WITH ACACIA.... so we can track the guy/s down who did this.

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#178

10-22-2003, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

I WANT A LIST OF THOSE THAT HAVE SETTLED WITH ACACIA.... so we can track the guy/s down who did this.

Guessing its more than one, I think that will be clearly obvious.

SOMEONE did, who may be more than one.

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10-22-2003, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Guessing its more than one, I think that will be clearly obvious.

SOMEONE did, who may be more than one.

Yeah well Acacia is a public company and I would think that the list would be public. This is frustrating.

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10-22-2003, 10:34 PM

Far-L

Can you supply the original list of people that were in the suit with you... and a list of who is still in the suit with you?

From this list we can get a few more names added to our tally of those that have settled.

Thanks!

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