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10-22-2003, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw
A few people who have signed early, would love to put the smaller guys out of business, that's no secret.

What is surprising of these claims is that these are companies who have recently made a deal with Acacia. If true, boycott is in order. Sell outs.

Why do you care? You just said every man for himself?

Where exactly are you coming from?

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10-22-2003, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
I have strong sources telling me that Acacia is offering licenses for $5000USD flat per Quarter for Adult companies who gross more than $5,000,000 per year from membership sales.

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10-22-2003, 02:48 PM

Very bad business if any sponsor gave out any info on any affilate, very bad. Me I'll never forget if they did NEVER.....

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10-22-2003, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw
Hustler, wicked, vivid, etc. made a business decision. They do so little on the net relatively that it made sense for them not to open themselves up to a potential lawsuit. I would also imagine they got a sweetheart deal. Do not kid yourself, almost everyone in this business is out for themselves, and themselves only. If Acacia told me, $1k a year and we will leave you alone, I would pay it in a second. A business decision.

Do not think that CE, SexCheck, Plat Bucks, etc are paying anywhere near 1-2 gross revenues.....

But, turning over affiliate info is another story.

Do we have a complete list of the 54 companies.. can someone please post this so we can check our affiliate programs and see if we're enrolled?

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10-22-2003, 02:50 PM

guys, the ONLY way I KNOW it came from an affiliate program is because of what it was addressed to as well.

Its something I have only used for affiliate stuff.

And as I said, thesre is simply NO WAY Acacia got my HOME ADDRESS without getting it from an affiliate program.

these two things alone may not be much, but put together it adds up rather quickly.

someone is selling us out.

who? no clue, maybe more than one who knows, hopefully it will come out.

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10-22-2003, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by jimmyf
Very bad business if any sponsor gave out any info on any affilate, very bad. Me I'll never forget if they did NEVER.....

THEY DID Jimmyf.. it's already been proven by a few posters here. Cover your ass if you're signed up on an affiliate program.

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10-22-2003, 02:52 PM

I am coming from a businessman's prospective. As much as I despise Acacia and think the patents are BS, if I was offered a sweetheart deal to avoid a lawsuit, I would strongly consider it.

But, I would never buy the stock beforehand, or turn over ANY affiliate info. I was saying, anyone turning over info should be boycotted, not companies that have made a business decision to license.

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10-22-2003, 02:52 PM

i thought Acacia had access to all business records as part of their licensing agreement. please correct me if i'm wrong

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10-22-2003, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

THEY DID Jimmyf.. it's already been proven by a few posters here. Cover your ass if you're signed up on an affiliate program.

Post the names someone *NOW*.. We all need 2 know who the asswipes are..

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10-22-2003, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
guys, the ONLY way I KNOW it came from an affiliate program is because of what it was addressed to as well.

Its something I have only used for affiliate stuff.

And as I said, thesre is simply NO WAY Acacia got my HOME ADDRESS without getting it from an affiliate program.

these two things alone may not be much, but put together it adds up rather quickly.

someone is selling us out.

who? no clue, maybe more than one who knows, hopefully it will come out.

This matches EXACLTY to the guy I knew here.

Some company/companies that have settled with Acacia are giving out their affiliate list to Acacia. Far-L made a comment to support this as well..

This is happening. You need to protect yourself.. and we need to track these people down. I will personally boycott anyone we find who has done this.

As I said earlier... I gave a unique identifyer to about 80 affiliate programs I signed up with (a number after my name.. and the same number added to the email address) I will probably get something from Acacia and will know EXACTLY who gave the info out.

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10-22-2003, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

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10-22-2003, 02:56 PM

Wouldnt some kind of data protection law make this illegal?

Or perhaps something along the lines of altering the initial contract the affiliate signed up for?
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10-22-2003, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

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No one should be afraid 2 out the asswipes. Will be hell 2 pay when they do.

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10-22-2003, 02:59 PM

Don't lynch me if I'm wrong, but I do recall reading that the terms of the license do require people who sign a license with them to give Acacia full disclosure about their "affiliates" so that they may be served as well.

When Acacia were talking about "affiliates" being safe if a program signed, they didn't mean it in the sense of the word that we use it, they meant affiliates as in employees, owners or people directly affiliated with the entity that signed.

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10-22-2003, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw
I am coming from a businessman's prospective. As much as I despise Acacia and think the patents are BS, if I was offered a sweetheart deal to avoid a lawsuit, I would strongly consider it.

But, I would never buy the stock beforehand, or turn over ANY affiliate info. I was saying, anyone turning over info should be boycotted, not companies that have made a business decision to license.

Successful business is based on making strong alliances with others in the industry and being loyal to those people.. not every man for himself.

No offense.. both can make money.. but only one will be successful long term. Which business model do you follow?

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