Do people build freesites lately?

[johnbosh]

Hello!
First when i started i always did tgp's, some sites expanded some died, but it was boring, everyday the same things review galleries, check trades, add trades watch your trade stats 26532832 times a day. I wanted something new so I stepped in the world of freesites, I made a bunch (30) and submitted them to 150 ll's made a couple of sales of it and it seems to work out very well, you get little traffic but much signups:D

Now who of you makes and submits freesites as primary doing, and how many traffic do you get to each? And all together:D

[Juicy D. Links]

Cant hurt to diversify you sites and business

[JOP]

This will be an interesting thread. Many newbies don´t even know

that there is such thing as a free site.

[Sly_RJ]

Free sites suck! Don't touch them!

[Rinaldo]

good question Im curious to see what people's experiences have been... If you're looking to make a lot of money sexpromote.com is the way to go. Free trials and 35 per join... hard to resist signing up and really hard to not promote the site because you do so well...

check out www.cartoonbitches.com/none
www.europeanteens.org/none
www.californiatits.com/none

questions? Hit me up on ICQ 172463409

[- Jesus Christ -]

Freesite conversion kick ass if you do it right.

The "something coming soon...." i'm working on will have a nice searchable freesite listing section. Still a few months away though

[gornyhuy]

Originally posted by Rinaldo
good question Im curious to see what people's experiences have been... If you're looking to make a lot of money sexpromote.com is the way to go. Free trials and 35 per join... hard to resist signing up and really hard to not promote the site because you do so well...

check out www.cartoonbitches.com/none
www.europeanteens.org/none
www.californiatits.com/none

questions? Hit me up on ICQ 172463409

DIE SPAMMER

[johnbosh]

I see that not many people are building and submitting them (or are not saying they do) It is very profitable maybe thats the reason you hear almost no one about it?
Or are the most webamsters here tgp freaks or something?

[69pornlinks]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Free sites suck! Don't touch them!

i concur freesites sucks and is a waste of time you'll be better off starting a TGP

[tranza]

I have some free sites and they all convert their traffic very well.... They are my biggest font of income...

[johnbosh]

And avs? Never tried that before, pretty stupid because with a free site you almost have an avs site:P But I wanted to try one thing at a time, what's better a free site or an avs site? Or build just both and submit them to every site you know.
I even saw plans on the internet that you could make from 30 pics 1 free sites 1 avs site and 2 galleries, that's what I call to do good things with your content and maximize your profit

I'm building a triple triple triple at the moment, I first tried a triple then a triple triple it worked out very very well, only the toplists part seems to work not so well I always sent in very little traffic while traffic is floating like water on my freesites, someone have experience about a ttt and want to share tips etc?

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by tranza
I have some free sites and they all convert their traffic very well.... They are my biggest font of income...

Do you have any sample? Or don't you wanna show the rest?

[tootie]

Free sites rule

But TGP2 is still my favorite. So many sales, so little traffic.

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by tootie
Free sites rule

But TGP2 is still my favorite. So many sales, so little traffic.

really? Thought that no one uses tgp2 and it never was a succes, I mean if people get 15~20 pic gals why should they visit your tgp2 with only 5 pics on html pages with even more ads?

[wargames]

Free sites do well for me alot easier to convert a sale

[Johny Traffic]

free sites are definatly the way.... script tgp traffic is the worste there is.... but all traffic is good traffic if you work it right

[tootie]

Originally posted by johnbosh

really? Thought that no one uses tgp2 and it never was a succes, I mean if people get 15~20 pic gals why should they visit your tgp2 with only 5 pics on html pages with even more ads?

I make TGP2 galleries when I have the time. I submit one place only, the TGP2 gallery pool. Almost every gallery I submit there is good for a sale or two within a month, and I get occasional sales even several months later. Plus, with low bandwidth and more relaxed rules and the fact that it only takes a few minutes to do a gallery, I find it's well worth the time and effort.

TGP2 gets alot of traffic from search engines. New, fresh surfers that haven't seen a regular TGP yet. They rarely trade with regular TGPs because they try to keep as much of the newbie traffic as possible within the TGP2 system and away from TGP. That's why traffic is so low. But it's quality. I'd rather have 10 productive hits that make me money that 10,000 hits that cost me bandwidth and just leech.

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by tootie


I make TGP2 galleries when I have the time. I submit one place only, the TGP2 gallery pool. Almost every gallery I submit there is good for a sale or two within a month, and I get occasional sales even several months later. Plus, with low bandwidth and more relaxed rules and the fact that it only takes a few minutes to do a gallery, I find it's well worth the time and effort.

TGP2 gets alot of traffic from search engines. New, fresh surfers that haven't seen a regular TGP yet. They rarely trade with regular TGPs because they try to keep as much of the newbie traffic as possible within the TGP2 system and away from TGP. That's why traffic is so low. But it's quality. I'd rather have 10 productive hits that make me money that 10,000 hits that cost me bandwidth and just leech.

Is there a list with top tgp2 sites or something? Like http://ranks.sextracker.com

[berg.the.red]

Originally posted by johnbosh
Is there a list with top tgp2 sites or something? Like http://ranks.sextracker.com

yes and no. TGP2 Stats would probably be one of the closest approximations to what your looking for.

on the subject of "why" TGP2 is a good selling tool --it's just that: TGP2 allows a webmaster to try and actually "sell" a product. your allowed to use banners and text links. full size pics on HTML pages ( for the most part ) with more sales "materials" ( banners, text links, etc. ) on the pages. not just a thumbnail leading to a full size pic.

depending on the type of free site or AVS site your making, if it's a smallish 10 to 15 pic site: look at a TGP2 gallery as 1/2 to 1/3 of those sites. or the other way --a 15 pic free/AVS site is 3 TGP2 galleries. it's all about using your resources to your full advantage.

[Tuga]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Free sites suck! Don't touch them!

What he said

[Chris E]

Good thread guys... never done freesites nor TGP2. How are TGP2 galleries good with SE?

[Jer]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Free sites suck! Don't touch them!

Wise words

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by Chris E
Good thread guys... never done freesites nor TGP2. How are TGP2 galleries good with SE?

Very good, you build 4/5 page sites and trhow them full with keywords, alt tags, meta tags, links to your other sites it rocks

[chemicaleyes]

interesting thread

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by berg.the.red

yes and no. TGP2 Stats would probably be one of the closest approximations to what your looking for.

on the subject of "why" TGP2 is a good selling tool --it's just that: TGP2 allows a webmaster to try and actually "sell" a product. your allowed to use banners and text links. full size pics on HTML pages ( for the most part ) with more sales "materials" ( banners, text links, etc. ) on the pages. not just a thumbnail leading to a full size pic.

depending on the type of free site or AVS site your making, if it's a smallish 10 to 15 pic site: look at a TGP2 gallery as 1/2 to 1/3 of those sites. or the other way --a 15 pic free/AVS site is 3 TGP2 galleries. it's all about using your resources to your full advantage.

Only one site that receives more then 1k hits a day? Damn thats low traffic :D Is it even at that low rate easy to make profit?

[Sarah_Jayne]

Originally posted by johnbosh
And avs? Never tried that before, pretty stupid because with a free site you almost have an avs site:P But I wanted to try one thing at a time, what's better a free site or an avs site? Or build just both and submit them to every site you know.

bingo...make the most of your content. Who said it can only be used for an avs OR a free site OR a bunch of tgp galleries. You make a bunch of galleries, string them together and ytou have a free site, then smack an avs script on the free site and you have an avs site. Three types of sites for one bit of work. Work smart, not hard.

[berg.the.red]

Originally posted by johnbosh
Only one site that receives more then 1k hits a day? Damn thats low traffic

TGP2 was never about having a number 1 SexTracker listing. it was about less free porn and more advertising potential.

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by berg.the.red

TGP2 was never about having a number 1 SexTracker listing. it was about less free porn and more advertising potential.

yes ok, but is it profitable with that amount of traffic?

[eatapeach]

Originally posted by johnbosh
yes ok, but is it profitable with that amount of traffic?

from tootie earlier in the thread:

Almost every gallery I submit there is good for a sale or two within a month, and I get occasional sales even several months later.

[fatbaby]

I still do lots of freesites.. but I rarely do em for LL's...

I'll occasionally submit a few of them to some smaller LL's that I know and trust, but mainly, I do freesites for the SE's....

course.. I have a script that autogenerates em on the server.. so I just pick a niche, and blast out a hundred or so in sub's of my domains...

;-)


BTW... properly done.. a free site is ALSO a couple galleries.. why waste or duplicate efforts??

[Caspah]

How do you think freesites would do with SE traffic and purchased first page exit traffic?

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by fatbaby
I still do lots of freesites.. but I rarely do em for LL's...

I'll occasionally submit a few of them to some smaller LL's that I know and trust, but mainly, I do freesites for the SE's....

course.. I have a script that autogenerates em on the server.. so I just pick a niche, and blast out a hundred or so in sub's of my domains...

;-)


BTW... properly done.. a free site is ALSO a couple galleries.. why waste or duplicate efforts??

lol, I saw some handy freesite scripts, you think it's worth to buy any?

[Pornwolf]

Who makes the best freesite generations script? Preferably one that hubs and links correctly.

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Who makes the best freesite generations script? Preferably one that hubs and links correctly.

If a script can't do that it's worthless for a free site script

[maxjohan]

Originally posted by johnbosh
Hello!
First when i started i always did tgp's, some sites expanded some died, but it was boring, everyday the same things review galleries, check trades, add trades watch your trade stats 26532832 times a day. I wanted something new so I stepped in the world of freesites, I made a bunch (30) and submitted them to 150 ll's made a couple of sales of it and it seems to work out very well, you get little traffic but much signups:D

Now who of you makes and submits freesites as primary doing, and how many traffic do you get to each? And all together:D

how much is much?

[BlackCrayon]

free sites are so 1999, there is no money left to be made

[Pornwolf]

Originally posted by johnbosh

If a script can't do that it's worthless for a free site script

Umm, yeah, so do you know any that do that?

[Meloman]

Free & AVS sites are definitely the way to go.

The best part is that once you have several hundred or thousand all linked up properly they keep getting traffic even when you're away. You can go on vacation for 2 weeks and those sites keep making sales.

If you're a tgp gallery builder on the other hand the second you stop building you'll loose traffic within a few days.

I like to think long term :-)

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by Meloman
Free & AVS sites are definitely the way to go.

The best part is that once you have several hundred or thousand all linked up properly they keep getting traffic even when you're away. You can go on vacation for 2 weeks and those sites keep making sales.

If you're a tgp gallery builder on the other hand the second you stop building you'll loose traffic within a few days.

I like to think long term :-)

true true, are here people that wanna build freesites, submit them to some link lists and dmoz for some $$?

[mb]

You can make more money with 1000 hits to a free site than 100,000 hits to a tgp gallery.

That's assuming:

1. The freesite is listed on the major linklists. (link-o-rama, richards, hoes.com, penisbot, megapornlinks, jk-porn)

2. The freesite was picked up by google and assigned PR (which will happen a month after a listing by the above linklists)

3. You've properly built the freesite for optimal conversion. See this thread for more info:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...light=hoes.com

4. You understand that freesites get sustained smaller amounts of traffic over time as compared to a typical one time windfall to most TGP galleries.

5. You have patience and understand that good things come to those that work hard, play the game and keep building.


Build those freesites! And, yes, after you've built your freesite, cut it up and use the two galleries you've build to submit to the tgps... it's all about recycling and minimizing extra effort for maximum gain!

marc

hoes.com
zarnia.com

[johnbosh]

I've submitted a few toi the ll's you said, now 1,5 month has gona but no pr on thease pages Sites aren't accepted (yet) on dmoz either

[mb]

Google has been a bit erratic in their update schedule lately! I'm sure you'll get that much needed PR in good time.

marc

hoes.com
zarnia.com

[Theo]

Originally posted by johnbosh

lol, I saw some handy freesite scripts, you think it's worth to buy any?

i have seen some of them, they might bring some results,but nothing beats manual done sites. Afterall,if you have 30-40 free sites properly done you can receive the same sales with the 5k auto generated free sites.

[Theo]

mb, out of curiosity,how many free sites you own?

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
mb, out of curiosity,how many free sites you own?

Yeah curious too, do you submit to your own ll too?

[mb]

I'm sure I've built several hundred over the years... I haven't had the time to do it in the last six months though as my other projects have taken all of my time!

Yes, I definately list all my freesites on hoes.com, and yes, I follow my own rules :-)

When I was building them, I did 5 a week. One a day and skipping the weekends. I found that having a schedule really helped!

If you decide to start a regimine of freesite building, definately test the waters for a while to make sure all of the linklists you are submitting to actually accept them. Once you've proven that they get accepted, you can start submitting one a day to them and most likely all of them will be picked up. Just try to make them all slightly unique. Templates are fine, but use different graphics, font styles to make them more random looking. You can always go back and use a template you've used before after about a month. The linklist reviewers will never remember it!

Also, many linklist webmasters including myself are more than happy to answer questions regarding why a site wasn't accepted and to give advice on how to make it conform to the rules.

marc

hoes.com
zarnia.com

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by mb
Also, many linklist webmasters including myself are more than happy to answer questions regarding why a site wasn't accepted and to give advice on how to make it conform to the rules.

Ahaa I keep that in mind if I get denied

[fatbaby]

Originally posted by johnbosh

If a script can't do that it's worthless for a free site script

The script I use is from http://www.instantscripts.com/ it's called Site Builder...

It's pricey.. but it does not leave anything out.. including hubs, and interlinking sites and hubs....

You can build whatever type of site you want.. on the server, in seconds... well... last big run I did was a while ago.. but I think it built a couple hundred sites on the server for me in 2 minutes...

;-)

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by fatbaby


The script I use is from http://www.instantscripts.com/ it's called Site Builder...

It's pricey.. but it does not leave anything out.. including hubs, and interlinking sites and hubs....

You can build whatever type of site you want.. on the server, in seconds... well... last big run I did was a while ago.. but I think it built a couple hundred sites on the server for me in 2 minutes...

;-)

that's neat, do you submit them all to the linklists or you just made them for the search engines?

[lock]

build free sites before you build paysites you need to get traffic from somewhere.