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Old 10-22-2003, 02:54 PM   #51
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Great now paysites are worthless thanks for ruining our biz
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Old 10-22-2003, 02:58 PM   #52
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http://www.bigfreepics.com/pics/mine...06/index.shtml

thats is a sample choker gallery.

it looks like the links in the top and bottom banner go to other TGP sites, maybe all the links go to other sites....
anyway, it looks like that gallery is made to sell traffic, not to sell memberships.....so is that the right answer?
Only about 1/6th of the galleries are like that from content I bought. The rest are from sponsor content that promote the paysite. I maintain pretty good ratios with most paysites. All movie galleries are sponsor hosted with the same headers. These are where I get the most signups from , the movie galleries.
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Old 10-22-2003, 02:59 PM   #53
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You can't? I just did.
No I don't . When I go to the front page of a gallery and right click save target as I get the html page the big pic is on but not the big pic.
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:05 PM   #54
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No I don't . When I go to the front page of a gallery and right click save target as I get the html page the big pic is on but not the big pic.
Ahh.. I thought you mean they couldn't save the big pic itself.. as in loading the image alone and then saving.
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:07 PM   #55
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1500 is not that big:


http://www.google.com/search?q=allin...w.freeones.com
returns 20.500

http://www.google.com/search?q=allin....mrcrawler.com
returns 9.170

http://www.google.com/search?q=allin...belistings.com
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just to name a few
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:10 PM   #56
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i have over 1400 pages. way before you had. www.privatexxx.org
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:14 PM   #57
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Ahh.. I thought you mean they couldn't save the big pic itself.. as in loading the image alone and then saving.
Ahh sorry for confusion. They can save the big pics but first they have to click on each thumb and go to the page the big pic is on and right click save the big pic as. On a regular gallery a surfer can from the main page of the gallery right click and save target as every pic in like 15 secs. On my galleries it takes at least 60 secs to do this and a lot of clicking to get them all saved. So in reality surfers are getting much less free porn from these galleries than regular galleries.
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:14 PM   #58
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i have over 1400 pages. way before you had. www.privatexxx.org
Damn, you got me there
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:16 PM   #59
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so you sell shittier TGP traffic now?
I don't know where you got that at. But the traffic I got from him was the best I could find! More productive than any other traffic broker! Just my


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Old 10-22-2003, 03:19 PM   #60
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I don't know where you got that at. But the traffic I got from him was the best I could find! More productive than any other traffic broker! Just my


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I got that from what choker told me and everybody 1 year ago wich was "Multi-page TGP traffic is less productive".

not saying his traffic sucks, just lost in his multiple affirmations that contradicts each others thats all
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:20 PM   #61
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sign up for my program and add some more galleries
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:22 PM   #62
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Don't you think the surfer will find it extremely annoying to find his way through the hundreds of different categories?

And don't you think that he will be mildly annoyed when failing to find the exact niche he was looking for? I somehow doubt you have all 1500 niches covered perfectly.
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:23 PM   #63
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Wonder how long it takes before the category tgp's update to this many categories?
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:28 PM   #64
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:30 PM   #65
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I got that from what choker told me and everybody 1 year ago wich was "Multi-page TGP traffic is less productive".

not saying his traffic sucks, just lost in his multiple affirmations that contradicts each others thats all
The problem a year ago with multiple page tgps was in the fact that the surfers from these sites were not clicking on my headers enough. Thus I could not pay back the set 10 to 1 ratio to these tgps. A lot changes in a year. Since GS2 pays back based on productivity multiple page tgps are fine. A multiple page tgp that has a page with just "teen" links on it is not going to send as good of traffic to a galelry as a page with "Thin blonde teens with tattoos" links is going to. The surfer is searching for a very specific niche, and when he gets a gallery wit hthat niche he wanted of course he is going to be more productive.

But I admit I do contradict myself a lot. It's not on purpose it's just that things in this biz change at lightning speed. One year ago how many multi page tgps were there? And how many are there now? Multi page tgps have become the normal now.
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:33 PM   #66
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Don't you think the surfer will find it extremely annoying to find his way through the hundreds of different categories?

And don't you think that he will be mildly annoyed when failing to find the exact niche he was looking for? I somehow doubt you have all 1500 niches covered perfectly.
He will find the exact niche he is looking for. A awesome team of reviewers have seen to this
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:35 PM   #67
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it loads very slow, is that an active or static page? btw, it sounds like a good idea
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:40 PM   #68
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I think that i'm missing the entire point of this project you have here Choker. So, you have really just created the worlds largest filter page?

No surfer in their right mind would use this page as a source for free porn.. you have to click 3-5 times just to see 1 gallery!
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:42 PM   #69
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The problem a year ago with multiple page tgps was in the fact that the surfers from these sites were not clicking on my headers enough. Thus I could not pay back the set 10 to 1 ratio to these tgps. A lot changes in a year. Since GS2 pays back based on productivity multiple page tgps are fine. A multiple page tgp that has a page with just "teen" links on it is not going to send as good of traffic to a galelry as a page with "Thin blonde teens with tattoos" links is going to. The surfer is searching for a very specific niche, and when he gets a gallery wit hthat niche he wanted of course he is going to be more productive.

But I admit I do contradict myself a lot. It's not on purpose it's just that things in this biz change at lightning speed. One year ago how many multi page tgps were there? And how many are there now? Multi page tgps have become the normal now.
well following the crowd isn'T always for the better. sure more people have cars now then 50 years ago, but does that help polution?

Anyway I support you're decision and wish you luck with it, I'm done debating, not like I hate you to death. If you say your traffic is better then ever, thats good and I should try to buy some from you again ;)
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:42 PM   #70
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i can do it in less then an hour no big deal
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:45 PM   #71
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I think that i'm missing the entire point of this project you have here Choker. So, you have really just created the worlds largest filter page?

No surfer in their right mind would use this page as a source for free porn.. you have to click 3-5 times just to see 1 gallery!
Finally someone gets it. Isn't that what a TGP is supposed to be anyway? People say sites like this ruin paysites, when in fact they aggrevate the surfer into joining paysites. TGPs that list straight links to the galleries are the real enemies of paysites. They make it so easy for surfers to get the free stuff.
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:50 PM   #72
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Yes they do actually. Only webmasters don't like them.
I like it as a webmaster but I dont like it as a surfer (if I can still think as a surfer)
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:50 PM   #73
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Finally someone gets it. Isn't that what a TGP is supposed to be anyway? People say sites like this ruin paysites, when in fact they aggrevate the surfer into joining paysites. TGPs that list straight links to the galleries are the real enemies of paysites. They make it so easy for surfers to get the free stuff.
No. This is exactly what seperates a TGP from a CJ site.
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Old 10-22-2003, 03:57 PM   #75
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I like it as a webmaster but I dont like it as a surfer (if I can still think as a surfer)
Sigh, always my galleries. In the last 24 hours 13% of all surfers seeing these galleries have clicked a link in the headers. What else can I say here? So many people are saying surfers hate these galleries, yet the stats say exactly the opposite.
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Old 10-22-2003, 04:36 PM   #77
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Choker you have to innovate so noone can really blame you.

Maybe as it is your site is ok with signups but it will be duplicated with a much lower skimming to trades, with thumb preview, everything you can think of;

of course its ruining the traffic, but there is nothing else to do unless you started in 1950.
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