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  • Jamie
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2001
    • 2517
    #1

    ACACIA Papers have been served? LOL

    Looks as if Acacia is Junk Mailing all of us.

    The funny thing about this paperwork is it's more like a sales pitch than a Threat.

    First they send me a letter, which tells me they have no fucking clue about who is or isn't infringing on their "patent". We're a hosting company.

    Second, they call it "past infringements" and are willing to waive the fees before Nov. 30th. What infringements?

    Third, they try to convince you everyone is doing it. So pay up..

    And Finally, they include 2 color copies of some CNET articles to help further their Sales Pitch. Why are they selling so hard if they have an open and shut case?

    If I had a Patent that indisputably said anyone using my Technology owes me money, you better bet I wouldn't be sending you a sales pitch. It would be the pay or DIE letter.

    This leads me to believe they really don't have much visibility into the adult world. If they know so much, why are we getting their paperwork. It looks as if they are just trying to see how many people they can scare into giving them money.

    So in true GFY style, ACACIA can Go Fuck Themselves
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    • klik
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2001
      • 5092
      #2
      Acacia this.. Acacia that... every thread today is about it.

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        • BRISK
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Feb 2003
          • 12240
          #3
          Jamie, does the letter say which site of yours is infringing their patent?
          I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
          I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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            • doober
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2003
              • 6984
              #4
              Originally posted by klik
              Acacia this.. Acacia that... every thread today is about it.

              what business you in?

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                • jimmyf
                  OU812
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 12651
                  #5
                  Originally posted by doober



                  what business you in?
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                    • Fletch XXX
                      GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 60840
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Jamie
                      Looks as if Acacia is Junk Mailing all of us.
                      Certainly taking aim.

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                        • Jamie
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 2517
                          #7
                          Originally posted by BRISK
                          Jamie, does the letter say which site of yours is infringing their patent?

                          No, there isn't any specific information in the letter. It's probably the same letter Fletch and everyone else has.
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                            • FightThisPatent
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 4090
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Jamie

                              Second, they call it "past infringements" and are willing to waive the fees before Nov. 30th. What infringements?

                              Yes, this is their scare tactic... probably the same approach used with the V-Chip patent.... before being shot down in the Sony case, they already collected over $27M.... Berman was bragging about this on the D$ show... i guess they are hoping for Round 2.. .so far, looks like it's working.

                              They did a bad job of picking targets, people with no video, people with 1 video, people who are in Timbuktoo.

                              Since they have put you on notice of infringement, and i realize that they may not have explained to you what it was, they can legitimately issue a court order to see you in court.

                              Sucks big time!


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                              I have a proposed solution to help fight against patent abuse like Acacia, and getting some debate on it.


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                                • FightThisPatent
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 4090
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by klik
                                  Acacia this.. Acacia that... every thread today is about it.



                                  Maybe that means its something to pay attention to.


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                                    • goBigtime
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2002
                                      • 7761
                                      #10
                                      FTP - Isn't this tactic illegal? To mail people accusing them of infringing on your patentns without explaining how, asking or demanding them to license a technology or face legal consequences - when it doesn't even apply to them?

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                                        • Jamie
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2001
                                          • 2517
                                          #11
                                          Since they have put you on notice of infringement, and i realize that they may not have explained to you what it was, they can legitimately issue a court order to see you in court.

                                          I could care less if I go to court, would be fun actually. We have nothing to hide. As long as animated gifs aren't covered in their patent I think we'll be just fine
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                                            • BRISK
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 12240
                                              #12
                                              Jamie, do you have a paysite? or just the hosting company?
                                              I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                              I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                • init
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 973
                                                  #13
                                                  has anyone stood up to them or has everyone just signed?
                                                  icq: 2721653

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                                                    • Jamie
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 2517
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by BRISK
                                                      Jamie, do you have a paysite? or just the hosting company?

                                                      I only have the hosting company, no paysites.
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                                                        • FightThisPatent
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 4090
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by goBigtime
                                                          FTP - Isn't this tactic illegal? To mail people accusing them of infringing on your patentns without explaining how, asking or demanding them to license a technology or face legal consequences - when it doesn't even apply to them?

                                                          They can claim what they want, patent law gives them the position that you are guilty until proven innocent.

                                                          once you get their letter, you are supposed to have your attorney contact them to ask why you are infringing... THEN they probably do their research, as opposed to some junior paralegal that just saw moving pictures on a web page and added that website to the target list.

                                                          They then write back and tell you how you are infringing, then your attorney writes back and says no you're not, and they write back that yes you are, and your attorney writes back that no they are not (while this is going on , your attorney bill meter is on).

                                                          Finally, you don't hear back from them, thinking that it's over, then come Dec 1st, or after, you get the court order to appear in court....

                                                          Following that court order, you probably get a nice little letter asking you to settle for a larger amount of money because you made them chase you...

                                                          I wish i was joking, but this is the way i see it.


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                                                            • FightThisPatent
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                              • 4090
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by init
                                                              has anyone stood up to them or has everyone just signed?

                                                              There are 11 of your peers fighting against Acacia's claims.

                                                              HomeGrownVideo and 10 other and waiting for their day in court.


                                                              Acacia won default judgements against webmasters who didn't even show up.

                                                              For those that did sign with Acacia, YOU DON'T GET YOUR MONEY BACK WHEN THE PATENT IS FOUND INVALID.



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