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PattyeCake* · 10-03-2003, 04:30 PM

I loved Willy as did many others and was proud to have called him my friend..
I don't know why he felt compelled to take the actions he did,
and tho we could not help him in life.. we CAN help those left behind and those who will suffer Most from this tragedy

I have been in contact with everyone and I think it's time for us to band together like we did in days of old and help out those who need us....

We are planning to do another auction to help Dora and the boys...

there is no insurance and they are going to need assistance to get thru this.. both emotionally and financially...

Please contact me via ICQ if you have anything you would like to donate for auction..... 83599165

any and all donations will be most welcome

Lets all band together and be a family again.... and help each other like we use to do....

I'm sorry I'm not more eloguent at the moment, I am still just beside myself over such a loss.... he was a wonderful guy and I loved him very much

Aly-Python · 10-03-2003, 04:32 PM

That's very compassionate of you, PattyeCake. Good for you.

Keep me posted. Thanks.

pornJester · 10-03-2003, 04:35 PM

I'll auction off my sig for a month. Never sold it before but this is good cause

sherie · 10-03-2003, 04:42 PM

I will ICQ you...it's a wonderful thing that you are doing! XO

SEGuru · 10-03-2003, 04:44 PM

Consider SEGuru.Net in.

This too hit me hard this afternoon, as I also got to spend some quality time with WillyB at the shows. This is a sad thing.

We will gladly donate a 1 year membership for SEGuru.Net to auction for the benefit of his family.

This has a face value of $1,187.64.

Its worth far more than that to a webmaster that knows how to use this site. So make us proud.

When its auctioned off...look at the return value for the help to WillyB's family.

His family is in our prayers.

Katlicious72 · 10-03-2003, 04:47 PM

This is an awesome thing your doing Pattyecake. I'm sorry for everyone's loss again. Truly tragic.

Missy · 10-03-2003, 05:09 PM

Isn't it amazing how quickly the donations piled up for the 1 and 2 millionth post contest? But when somebody is actually in need, people seem to disappear. I don't mean to come across as a bitch, but it's kind of baffling.

Pattye, I don't have much to donate except for my time. Please feel free to contact me if you need ANY help with the benefit.
ICQ: 78989718

On second thought... Are you going to set up a way to make cash contributions? I might be able to help out a little bit that way. It would not be much, but I know every little bit can help.
Let me know...

venturi · 10-03-2003, 05:25 PM

Words can not describe how the news of WillyB's departure from this world has affected me. He truly was one of the good guys and a true friend to me.

Pattye, you know you can count on me to assist with getting this auction going and donating my services as an auction item as well. Dora and the boys will be taken care of.

Muffin · 10-03-2003, 05:26 PM

PC:

Good for you! You are reaching out to help people who don't have the ability to help themselves and also honor someone you loved.

I did not know him, however, I know this was a tragic loss. Cheers to you!

localG · 10-03-2003, 05:34 PM

Hey all im very sorry for the lose . I did not know willyb at all but this is definitly a tragic event.

Had alot of friends pass this way and its damn hard to deal with becuase it makes no sence .

I wish the family and friends well and i dont really have any thing to auction off but i would like to make a cash contribution to the family . So if you want hit me up patty at localg @ localgspot.com and ill send you some money.

localg

jaYMan · 10-03-2003, 05:42 PM

You can count Netpond and PLRAdult in on anything you need PC.

LadyMischief · 10-03-2003, 05:44 PM

I will contribute to the auction. I didn't know Willy but I understand the predicament of his family and their time of loss. I will be donating the first print of a limited run (only 20 prints will be done) of one of my published photos. 16x20 print, can be framed or mounted.

Doesn't feel like near enough, but it's what I have to give..

Best of luck on the auction and my condolences to those who knew and loved Willy.

Bestat · 10-03-2003, 05:50 PM

Pattycake, I will ICQ you with my donation as well. I agree it is time again for us to come together to help. I can not even begin to know what pain Dora and the kids are going through.

grogan · 10-03-2003, 05:54 PM

I'll buy some stuff at the auction and put in some cash too when you set that up.

Think I actually met the guy a couple years back at one of my few attended shows, is this possible?

Sucks when a webmasters does himself in.

twiceshybrat · 10-03-2003, 06:15 PM

PattyeCake

I would like to Donate a years hosting along with two DSL modems and a Etho card towards the Aution

God Bless DoraP and the boys

WillyB will be Missed

MicDoohan · 10-03-2003, 06:22 PM

willyb

Raven · 10-03-2003, 07:02 PM

Pattyecake...darlin'...I'll be in contact with you....and whatever you need me to do, I'm there.

Raven · 10-03-2003, 07:46 PM

For those of you who want to donate cash,

[email protected] (paypal)

the Shemp · 10-03-2003, 08:30 PM

i would like to donate $500.00 advertising on shemp.com
banners, gallery spots, whatever.

shemp

venturi · 10-03-2003, 11:29 PM

*bump*

So far, so good peeps. Keep them items coming.

Lensman · 10-03-2003, 11:33 PM

We'll contribute a Akai DVD Home Theater Audio System.

Raven · 10-04-2003, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by localG
Hey all im very sorry for the lose . I did not know willyb at all but this is definitly a tragic event.

Had alot of friends pass this way and its damn hard to deal with becuase it makes no sence .

I wish the family and friends well and i dont really have any thing to auction off but i would like to make a cash contribution to the family . So if you want hit me up patty at localg @ localgspot.com and ill send you some money.

localg

I've hit you up, Tim.

Funbrunette · 10-04-2003, 12:09 AM

That is so sad...My heart really goes to his friends and family

dirtydesignz · 10-04-2003, 01:25 AM

Adult Site Traffic will donate $100 in Pay Per Click and 100,000 TGP hits. Please ICQ us at 121760557 or 7185306 to let us know what to do.

We didn't know WillyB, but would like to help his family.

Lizzie

Dawgy · 10-04-2003, 01:46 AM

i'll donate some content.
30 sets, roughly $1600 worth.

im sure youre ICQ is going nuts patty so just msg me when u get a chance for whatever info you need. 1148977

sextoyking · 10-04-2003, 01:54 AM

Pattyecake,

This is shocking news. So sorry to hear what happended.

May god bless him and his family.

Hopefully this auction will help his wife and family out.

webinc.com will donate 1 complete 3 page paysite design.

sextoyworld will donate $500.00 in toys

Hugs

Todd

baddog · 10-04-2003, 02:34 AM

you have ICQ

Bestat · 10-04-2003, 08:06 AM

*bump*

PC asked me to list what we donated here.

$500.00 in content (winner's choice)
3 months free advertising on Best-at.com and ToonPlaces.com

It is wonderful to see all the other donations coming in, I know Dora and the kids will appreciate this.

Sharpie · 10-04-2003, 08:26 AM

I will donate everything on the site at http://www.spankyscontent.com Over 15,000 pics plus videos.

Raven · 10-04-2003, 09:18 AM

Y'all are incredibly generous....

I know DoraP and the kids will benefit from you guys opening your hearts...

Keep 'em coming....WillyB is in a place where he needs no more...but, his kids do.

JamesK · 10-04-2003, 09:21 AM

WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT SOUND COMING FROM

JamesK · 10-04-2003, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildcard
WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT SOUND COMING FROM

nevermind it was the seguru site

jaYMan · 10-04-2003, 11:35 AM

Ok, let's keep these donations coming in...

PattyeCake* · 10-04-2003, 12:06 PM

After a very long night, I have just woken up...
I came here first this morning, and I must say that the generosity I am seeing for WillyB and his family is completely Overwhelming...

Thank all of you so very much....

There have been many other donations as well via ICQ, mail and on other boards, I will post them here soon, and we are in the process of getting a site online that will tell you all a little about WillyB and to help Keep track of the donations that all of you have been so generous to offer to help DoraP and the kids...

Dokk has voluntered to do the auction from Albumside.com and we are shooting for a live auction on Friday Oct 10th...

I'll have more information later today, But I wanted to Thank you all... with all of my heart...

PattyeCake* · 10-04-2003, 02:39 PM

More bad news
I was just informed that John Morgan Aka OMPI
was in a motorcycle wreck last night and has at least broken his back and there is a possibility of paralysis

he is in ICQ in Georgia

I really can't take all of this ...

Mishi · 10-04-2003, 03:35 PM

Keep your chin up, PattyeCake - we're here for ya.

Bravo and brava to all who have donated so far. Keep 'em coming!

dokk · 10-04-2003, 03:51 PM

I'm not going to be able to do any auctions and can't commit to anything other than looking out for my family and john right now. I think if somebody were to set it up on a website to auction it would be a great idea and maybe avoid a lot of the bad things that always seem to follow good intentions. A cup is doing the best it can just to hold one cup.. and mine is full right now.

Tala · 10-04-2003, 04:10 PM

Naughtyfables will donate a Platinum Package (not listed on site yet, we're re-doing that) worth $1000. It is $1000 of text content, custom written for the site that purchases it. It can be stories, advertising, ghostwriting, whatever is needed in a textual sense.

Mishi · 10-04-2003, 04:22 PM

Big huge hugs to you, Dokk.

the Shemp · 10-04-2003, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PattyeCake*
More bad news
I was just informed that John Morgan Aka OMPI
was in a motorcycle wreck last night and has at least broken his back and there is a possibility of paralysis

he is in ICQ in Georgia

I really can't take all of this ...

This is terrible, John has had a rough year health wise already

RRRED · 10-04-2003, 05:15 PM

God, even more terrible news.

My prayers are with ya John!! If anyone can pull through something like this, it's you!

Ya think of John as nearly indestructible. Makes you realize anything can happen to anyone. What a shame. I hope everything ends up ok.

sextoyking · 10-04-2003, 07:58 PM

Pcake,

My god, just read about John. He is a great person and so dang cool.

Damm, I can't belive this.

if someone has an address for flowers, phone #, etc.

Please let me know

thanks

todd

Spunky · 10-04-2003, 08:08 PM

I don't have much to offer but my heart goes out to his family.I will donate a month of advertising (gallery spots or banners ) on a couple of my sites.
49409205

LeeNoga · 10-04-2003, 10:23 PM

John Morgan, OMG....damnit...damnit...damnit....shit.

This has got to stop....damnit.

Carrie · 10-04-2003, 11:48 PM

I'll donate a month's advertising in my sig line here on GFY, on Oprano, and on Net*pond.
General rules apply - no illegal crap, skat, etc.

RIP WillyB

venturi · 10-05-2003, 12:28 AM

Carrie, I love the banner in your sig. :D

Dravyk · 10-05-2003, 12:36 AM

John Morgan .... ohmigawd. This nightmarish week continues. (Ditto what Todd said about flowers, phone and all.) Ompi, hang in there, buddy! We're rooting for you!

Dirty Gloves (my partner Electra and I) will contribute two separate donations for the auction. One Content God CMS Professional edition. Also a one-month maximum exposure ad package across all three resources: All Of 'Em, the Boards Scanner system, and the All Of 'Em To You daily newsletter. Each is worth roughly $1,500 in value.

Willy was a good guy. Dora and the boys need to be taken care of to the best of our ability at such a tragic time. We encourage everyone who can to please pitch in with auction items, or bids, or hit up PayPal. Thanks.

PC & Raven, you know we'll be in touch.

jaYMan · 10-05-2003, 01:10 AM

PC, I can help with the audio.

nite all

Bestat · 10-05-2003, 09:03 AM

bump

Great response so far, let's keep them coming folks! This is a very important matter, too important to get lost on here.

PC will be along to list all the great donations, so let's get some more added!

Spunky · 10-05-2003, 01:51 PM

10-03-2003, 04:30 PM	#1
PattyeCake* Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Far far away... Posts: 843	WillyB Benefit I loved Willy as did many others and was proud to have called him my friend.. I don't know why he felt compelled to take the actions he did, and tho we could not help him in life.. we CAN help those left behind and those who will suffer Most from this tragedy I have been in contact with everyone and I think it's time for us to band together like we did in days of old and help out those who need us.... We are planning to do another auction to help Dora and the boys... there is no insurance and they are going to need assistance to get thru this.. both emotionally and financially... Please contact me via ICQ if you have anything you would like to donate for auction..... 83599165 any and all donations will be most welcome Lets all band together and be a family again.... and help each other like we use to do.... I'm sorry I'm not more eloguent at the moment, I am still just beside myself over such a loss.... he was a wonderful guy and I loved him very much __________________ Big Hugs to ALL! PattyeCake* Make MORE with your sites with Rabbit's Reviews!! AND don't forget!!!! Help a Child

10-03-2003, 04:32 PM	#2
Aly-Python Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: West Hollywood Posts: 1,439	That's very compassionate of you, PattyeCake. Good for you. Keep me posted. Thanks. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

10-03-2003, 04:35 PM	#3
pornJester Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 6,138	I'll auction off my sig for a month. Never sold it before but this is good cause __________________ FreshBucks \| Webmaster Vault \| GayAW Trusted Names in Adult. ICQ 9157.3698

10-03-2003, 04:42 PM	#4
sherie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,020	I will ICQ you...it's a wonderful thing that you are doing! XO __________________ AIM sherierocks ICQ 127-296-286 Skype traffichor

10-03-2003, 04:44 PM	#5
SEGuru Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale...on the Intracoastal! Posts: 1,005	Consider SEGuru.Net in. This too hit me hard this afternoon, as I also got to spend some quality time with WillyB at the shows. This is a sad thing. We will gladly donate a 1 year membership for SEGuru.Net to auction for the benefit of his family. This has a face value of $1,187.64. Its worth far more than that to a webmaster that knows how to use this site. So make us proud. When its auctioned off...look at the return value for the help to WillyB's family. His family is in our prayers. __________________ AffConEvents.Com \| Tune in Live & Listen to Internet Radio for Webmasters Buy Cheap Text Links

10-03-2003, 04:47 PM	#6
Katlicious72 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Californicating in San Diego Posts: 1,665	This is an awesome thing your doing Pattyecake. I'm sorry for everyone's loss again. Truly tragic. __________________ Fetish Preview....Coming Soon! ICQ# 308-229-815

10-03-2003, 05:09 PM	#7
Missy FLASHCA$H.COM Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In my skin Posts: 1,257	Isn't it amazing how quickly the donations piled up for the 1 and 2 millionth post contest? But when somebody is actually in need, people seem to disappear. I don't mean to come across as a bitch, but it's kind of baffling. Pattye, I don't have much to donate except for my time. Please feel free to contact me if you need ANY help with the benefit. ICQ: 78989718 On second thought... Are you going to set up a way to make cash contributions? I might be able to help out a little bit that way. It would not be much, but I know every little bit can help. Let me know...

10-03-2003, 05:25 PM	#8
venturi Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: An Oasis atop a High Desert Mesa Posts: 386	Words can not describe how the news of WillyB's departure from this world has affected me. He truly was one of the good guys and a true friend to me. Pattye, you know you can count on me to assist with getting this auction going and donating my services as an auction item as well. Dora and the boys will be taken care of. Last edited by venturi; 10-03-2003 at 05:51 PM..

10-03-2003, 05:26 PM	#9
Muffin Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On The Intracostal! Posts: 568	PC: Good for you! You are reaching out to help people who don't have the ability to help themselves and also honor someone you loved. I did not know him, however, I know this was a tragic loss. Cheers to you! __________________ Hi-Band Feed \| Low Band Feed

10-03-2003, 05:34 PM	#10
localG Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: new jersey Posts: 490	Hey all im very sorry for the lose . I did not know willyb at all but this is definitly a tragic event. Had alot of friends pass this way and its damn hard to deal with becuase it makes no sence . I wish the family and friends well and i dont really have any thing to auction off but i would like to make a cash contribution to the family . So if you want hit me up patty at localg @ localgspot.com and ill send you some money. localg __________________ Fuck off.

10-03-2003, 05:42 PM	#11
jaYMan peace&profit, Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,885	You can count Netpond and PLRAdult in on anything you need PC. __________________ peace&profit, jaYMan

10-03-2003, 05:44 PM	#12
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	I will contribute to the auction. I didn't know Willy but I understand the predicament of his family and their time of loss. I will be donating the first print of a limited run (only 20 prints will be done) of one of my published photos. 16x20 print, can be framed or mounted. Doesn't feel like near enough, but it's what I have to give.. Best of luck on the auction and my condolences to those who knew and loved Willy. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

10-03-2003, 05:50 PM	#13
Bestat Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 26	Pattycake, I will ICQ you with my donation as well. I agree it is time again for us to come together to help. I can not even begin to know what pain Dora and the kids are going through. __________________ Exclusive Content, the Anime, Toon, Hentai and Adult Comic Specialist

10-03-2003, 05:54 PM	#14
grogan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 2,284	I'll buy some stuff at the auction and put in some cash too when you set that up. Think I actually met the guy a couple years back at one of my few attended shows, is this possible? Sucks when a webmasters does himself in.

10-03-2003, 06:15 PM	#15
twiceshybrat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1	PattyeCake I would like to Donate a years hosting along with two DSL modems and a Etho card towards the Aution God Bless DoraP and the boys WillyB will be Missed Last edited by twiceshybrat; 10-03-2003 at 06:21 PM..

10-03-2003, 06:22 PM	#16
MicDoohan Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 791	willyb

10-03-2003, 07:02 PM	#17
Raven Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,874	Pattyecake...darlin'...I'll be in contact with you....and whatever you need me to do, I'm there. __________________ Raven ~RETIRED~

10-03-2003, 07:46 PM	#18
Raven Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,874	For those of you who want to donate cash, [email protected] (paypal) __________________ Raven ~RETIRED~

10-03-2003, 08:30 PM	#19
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	i would like to donate $500.00 advertising on shemp.com banners, gallery spots, whatever. shemp

10-03-2003, 11:29 PM	#20
venturi Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: An Oasis atop a High Desert Mesa Posts: 386	bump So far, so good peeps. Keep them items coming. __________________ I'm not a porn monger. I'm a porn ... STYLIST! Buildit Cheap, build it Fast, Build it Right. - Pick Two.

10-03-2003, 11:33 PM	#21
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	We'll contribute a Akai DVD Home Theater Audio System.

10-04-2003, 12:09 AM	#23
Funbrunette Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 4,834	That is so sad...My heart really goes to his friends and family __________________ Stephanie (Funbrunette) [email protected] ICQ: 155-713-409

10-04-2003, 01:25 AM	#24
dirtydesignz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Playa de los Playas :) Posts: 1,815	Adult Site Traffic will donate $100 in Pay Per Click and 100,000 TGP hits. Please ICQ us at 121760557 or 7185306 to let us know what to do. We didn't know WillyB, but would like to help his family. Lizzie __________________ LIZZIE

10-04-2003, 01:46 AM	#25
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	i'll donate some content. 30 sets, roughly $1600 worth. im sure youre ICQ is going nuts patty so just msg me when u get a chance for whatever info you need. 1148977 __________________ the revolution is coming.

10-04-2003, 01:54 AM	#26
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Pattyecake, This is shocking news. So sorry to hear what happended. May god bless him and his family. Hopefully this auction will help his wife and family out. webinc.com will donate 1 complete 3 page paysite design. sextoyworld will donate $500.00 in toys Hugs Todd __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

10-04-2003, 02:34 AM	#27
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	you have ICQ

10-04-2003, 08:06 AM	#28
Bestat Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 26	bump PC asked me to list what we donated here. $500.00 in content (winner's choice) 3 months free advertising on Best-at.com and ToonPlaces.com It is wonderful to see all the other donations coming in, I know Dora and the kids will appreciate this. __________________ Exclusive Content, the Anime, Toon, Hentai and Adult Comic Specialist

10-04-2003, 08:26 AM	#29
Sharpie Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 438	I will donate everything on the site at http://www.spankyscontent.com Over 15,000 pics plus videos.

10-04-2003, 09:18 AM	#30
Raven Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,874	Y'all are incredibly generous.... I know DoraP and the kids will benefit from you guys opening your hearts... Keep 'em coming....WillyB is in a place where he needs no more...but, his kids do. __________________ Raven ~RETIRED~

10-04-2003, 09:21 AM	#31
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT SOUND COMING FROM __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

10-04-2003, 11:35 AM	#33
jaYMan peace&profit, Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,885	Ok, let's keep these donations coming in... __________________ peace&profit, jaYMan

10-04-2003, 12:06 PM	#34
PattyeCake* Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Far far away... Posts: 843	After a very long night, I have just woken up... I came here first this morning, and I must say that the generosity I am seeing for WillyB and his family is completely Overwhelming... Thank all of you so very much.... There have been many other donations as well via ICQ, mail and on other boards, I will post them here soon, and we are in the process of getting a site online that will tell you all a little about WillyB and to help Keep track of the donations that all of you have been so generous to offer to help DoraP and the kids... Dokk has voluntered to do the auction from Albumside.com and we are shooting for a live auction on Friday Oct 10th... I'll have more information later today, But I wanted to Thank you all... with all of my heart... __________________ Big Hugs to ALL! PattyeCake* Make MORE with your sites with Rabbit's Reviews!! AND don't forget!!!! Help a Child

10-04-2003, 02:39 PM	#35
PattyeCake* Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Far far away... Posts: 843	More bad news I was just informed that John Morgan Aka OMPI was in a motorcycle wreck last night and has at least broken his back and there is a possibility of paralysis he is in ICQ in Georgia I really can't take all of this ... __________________ Big Hugs to ALL! PattyeCake* Make MORE with your sites with Rabbit's Reviews!! AND don't forget!!!! Help a Child

10-04-2003, 03:35 PM	#36
Mishi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,054	Keep your chin up, PattyeCake - we're here for ya. Bravo and brava to all who have donated so far. Keep 'em coming! __________________ Looking for PHP/MySQL solutions? Check out Cyboriginal - custom scripts, installation services and more.

10-04-2003, 03:51 PM	#37
dokk Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Negril, Jamaica Posts: 723	I'm not going to be able to do any auctions and can't commit to anything other than looking out for my family and john right now. I think if somebody were to set it up on a website to auction it would be a great idea and maybe avoid a lot of the bad things that always seem to follow good intentions. A cup is doing the best it can just to hold one cup.. and mine is full right now.