In defense of Steve Jones a.k.a. Lightspeed - GoFuckYourself.com

Rick Latona · 10-10-2003, 04:58 PM

All,

I've just finished watching Brad Shaw's interview on Mike AI's Pure Cash TV.

Allegation 1. Steve is bad for the industry because he uses girls that "look" underage.

Steve knows how to make money. He creates high-quality sites that people like. He gives lots of content to webmasters for them to promote the services and most importantly, he treats these girls well.

I know certain people in this business who shoot scene after scene of a girl for a couple of weeks, obtain a years worth of updates and call it a day. Steve keeps these girls on payroll for the life of the site unless something goes terribly wrong.

The girls are 18 and that is currently what the law says they have to be. Why is he being punished because the girls are cute and sell memberships?

Allegation 2. Steve is an idiot.

First, refer to allegation 1's response. Webmasters who promote Lightspeed have always made money.

Considering that his program is a "revenue sharing" program I have to assume he does pretty well too.

He's created a strong consumer brand as well as a strong webmaster brand.

I can think of a lot of idiots in this business and Steve isn't one of them.

FabianC · 10-10-2003, 05:00 PM

TheEbonyFelony · 10-10-2003, 05:01 PM

LIGHTSPEED SELLS

brand0n · 10-10-2003, 05:02 PM

lightspeed has always been some cool mofos.. who gives a fuck what bradshaw thinks?

ControlThy · 10-10-2003, 05:03 PM

There are many things that cause this industry problems, but I don't see how Lightspeed is part of it.

Rick Latona · 10-10-2003, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by ControlThy
There are many things that cause this industry problems, but I don't see how Lightspeed is part of it.

I don't know. Visa may be pissed off that the surfer is getting what they are paying for.

Naughty · 10-10-2003, 05:06 PM

I did not read/hear that interview, but after meeting Steve in Amsterdam last month, I'd have to say he's a very honest man. Very unlikely to abuse, mislead or betray anybody. He's not an idiot either

makefuckingmoney · 10-10-2003, 05:07 PM

But just remember this thread wouldnt exist without Brads big mouth..

so props to brad

haha

10-10-2003, 05:07 PM

BradShaw is just what German people call a 'Klugscheisser'.

Nothing to worry about. But his views on drug abuse during shows is justified. But bashing Steve is just ridiculous.

Tanker · 10-10-2003, 05:07 PM

Well said Rick,

I know I have worked for Steve for a few years. He is a very good friend and my Employer however I look to him as more of a biz partner then an employer.

Steve is the most honest guy I know, we shoot girls that are 18. Go to the mall and watch the 18 year olds there they all look like lightspeed girls cause thats what 18 year olds look like they dont look like a bunch of washed up strippers...

He does take good care of the models and treats them very well
hell Taylor needed a car and steve bought one for her. Girls need rent money he shoots them extra that month even though we have 500 sets of them in the can allready

All I can say is I am proud to have him as a friend and a employer

He is good for the industry I wish there were more very honest companies this industry wouldnt be in the mess it is in now!!

Tanker

gornyhuy · 10-10-2003, 05:08 PM

Lightspeed is great, has awesome content, converts, pays on time,

quiet · 10-10-2003, 05:09 PM

Tanker · 10-10-2003, 05:10 PM

quiet hit me up on ICQ sometime

Tanker

gregtx · 10-10-2003, 05:15 PM

I like Steve, I like Rick, and I like Brad...

Brad has his opinion.. this is a country where everyone is entitled to an opinion... this board is ran just like a political campaign and there is no such thing as "bad publicity".. only publicity... look at Arnold and his allegatoins of being a sexual predator...

I believe it all stems back to satire and the ability for anyone to poke at anyone who publically puts themselves out on a pedestal...

i admire both sides of this.. Brad for having his "own" opinion and being able to voice it w/o regard.. and Steve for runnig a successful company which obviously does well..

besides.. if everyone got along there would be nothing to read about on GFY.. except.. would you hit it... what kind of car do you drive... and owned threads

have a great weekend

BradShaw · 10-10-2003, 05:17 PM

Rick, you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I am sure Steve appreciated you posting nice things about him, I know you guys are tight. No doubt Steve has great content, good sites, and a solid program.

Steve is a VERY public figure and puts himself up on the pedestal time and time again. For example, his "public efforts" to fight child porn while his own sites cater to pedophiles in my opinion. Therefore, I have no problem with knocking him down and expressing my opinion from time to time. We both know that the publicity he gets from me is well worth the hassle.

jason420 · 10-10-2003, 05:18 PM

what a bunch of fucking garbage. How much has lightspeed spent with you Rick? You always do this.

I think Brad Shaw is prick, but he's right on the money about lightspeed. EVERYONE IN THE INDUSTRY KNOWS THIS. I was at a table once when he walked in and was saying things to people at the table and everyone was saying under their breath..

" shut up man, youre blowing it..."

He was saying things about girls that NO ONE should say let alone think.

BRAD IS RIGHT ABOUT THIS MOTHERFUCKER.

BradShaw · 10-10-2003, 05:22 PM

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All I can say is I am proud to have him as a friend and a employer

So why did you leave to go work for lensman? You are lucky he took you back;-) If someone left me to work for lens and then tried to come back, I would say too bad. So you are right, he is a nice guy.

As for he is good for this business, your heart is in the right place, your head is not. What people do not understand is that the business will be under serious government scrutiny in the near future. Some of he antics that lightspeed supports do nothing but hard to this business.

Rick Latona · 10-10-2003, 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by gregtx
I like Steve, I like Rick, and I like Brad...

Brad has his opinion.. this is a country where everyone is entitled to an opinion... this board is ran just like a political campaign and there is no such thing as "bad publicity".. only publicity... look at Arnold and his allegatoins of being a sexual predator...

I believe it all stems back to satire and the ability for anyone to poke at anyone who publically puts themselves out on a pedestal...

i admire both sides of this.. Brad for having his "own" opinion and being able to voice it w/o regard.. and Steve for runnig a successful company which obviously does well..

besides.. if everyone got along there would be nothing to read about on GFY.. except.. would you hit it... what kind of car do you drive... and owned threads

have a great weekend

I actually come to GFY looking for late-breaking business news but I'll be the first to admit that I get caught up in the drama from time to time.

There is no need for you to defend Brad. I'm not bashing anyone. I'm just defending Steve and the allegations made.

I don't want people to make judgements when they haven't even met him. It's a classic case of a public figure's reputation defined by the media. Someone has to say something in his defense.

BradShaw · 10-10-2003, 05:26 PM

BTW, it is not just me who has these feelings about Steve/Lightspeed. I am just the only one with the balls to post about it on a public board on a regular basis..... There are many people (large companies) that want nothing to do with Steve, but are hospitable to him in public. Everytime I go off on Steve and his business practices, my icq lights up, and my phone rings. And it is not Steve calling, it is people telling me they agree with my opinions.

Keep in mind, this is the same guy who ran a busy porn studio out of a residential neighborhood in Glendale, AZ. They just recently got a "real" office

BTW, I like Tanker and RocHard, I just hope when/if a crack down comes one day, they are not caught in the middle. They are simply Steves pawns.

Tanker · 10-10-2003, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

So why did you leave to go work for lensman? You are lucky he took you back;-) If someone left me to work for lens and then tried to come back, I would say too bad. So you are right, he is a nice guy.

I went to work for Lensman ( who I had worked for in the past )
to open my own program with his backing, unfortunatly things were not going as planed ( nothing bad ) just not as planed and I was invited back to lightspeedcash and I took the offer that was made to me....

Tanker

jason420 · 10-10-2003, 05:30 PM

well put Brad. It takes fucking balls to say what you say and you back your shit up. PEOPLE LIKE HIM ARE FUCKED FOR MY INDUSTRY.

makefuckingmoney · 10-10-2003, 05:31 PM

I need to hire someone..
it would be nice to know someone would say what a great guy i am!

or they would face a pay cut!

pamphage · 10-10-2003, 05:31 PM

Rick Latona · 10-10-2003, 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
I need to hire someone..
it would be nice to know someone would say what a great guy i am!

or they would face a pay cut!

You think I need to work for someone? If I knew you and you were a great guy I'd stand up for you. Just like some people are the only ones with balls to bash people, I'm usually the only one with balls to come to someone's defense.

BradShaw · 10-10-2003, 05:40 PM

Funny thing is I get VERY much under Steve's skin. We have many mutual friends who have told me stories. Some have even asked me to back off from time to time.

If what I was slinging was pure bullshit, I seriously doubt it would bother him so much. the truth hurts sometimes.

Tanker · 10-10-2003, 05:41 PM

I dont get paid to post happy thoughts

I know I wouldn't have gotten a paycut for not posting

if anything I will probably get a little heat for posting in this thread

I got my own oppinions about things steve knows that there are things we dont see eye to eye on and I voice them...

makefuckingmoney · 10-10-2003, 05:42 PM

Rick

I wasnt talking about you.. I didnt realize you worked for someone..I thought it was your stuff..

I mean the Brad Shaw PR Machine

BradShaw · 10-10-2003, 05:44 PM

Sad thing with Steve is, that it has gotten to the point where he does not bother to defend himself of his company. I mean think about it, there is not much to say in defense except... I am Steve, I am a nice guy, I buy you booze, let you do drugs in my room, and let you watch hot chicks eating each other out....

If he thinks ignoring me will make a difference, he forgets I entertain myself.

makefuckingmoney · 10-10-2003, 05:45 PM

This thread is turning into a homo fest and im pissed i aint part of it..

Rick Latona · 10-10-2003, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
Rick

I wasnt talking about you.. I didnt realize you worked for someone..I thought it was your stuff..

I mean the Brad Shaw PR Machine

The funny thing is that now he thinks I do work for someone. It's cool man. Missunderstandings happen on boards.

BVF · 10-10-2003, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
For example, his "public efforts" to fight child porn while his own sites cater to pedophiles in my opinion.

Bull.....pedophiles wouldn't be interested in Lightspeed's sites because the girls look too old for that...Pedophiles like children that look like they haven't reached sexual maturity...Lightspeed's girls all have boobies and pubic hair...hardly what a pedophile is interested in..

BradShaw · 10-10-2003, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by BVF

Bull.....pedophiles wouldn't be interested in Lightspeed's sites because the girls look too old for that...Pedophiles like children that look like they haven't reached sexual maturity...Lightspeed's girls all have boobies and pubic hair...hardly what a pedophile is interested in..

I joined a lightspeed site today, to check a few things out. I saw numerous models with very small boobs and NO pubic hair.

makefuckingmoney · 10-10-2003, 05:51 PM

I have no pubic hair..

Does that mean Im underage?

My breasts are quite nice for a man though..

Rick Latona · 10-10-2003, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

I joined a lightspeed site today, to check a few things out. I saw numerous models with very small boobs and NO pubic hair.

Stop it, I'm getting a boner.

NetRodent · 10-10-2003, 05:56 PM

Shaven snatch on a porn site? Oh my!

TinaBallina · 10-10-2003, 05:58 PM

Rick, well said my friend. I have known Steve for some time now and seen Lightspeed grow into the success it is today.
I have met a lot of good people in this industry but Steve stands aside as one of the "great" ones. He is honest, real and has a heart of gold.
We have a business relationship but aside from that I consider him a good friend first.
Of course, people have their own opinion but I really can't believe anyone would ever say anything negative about Steve. Anyone that would obviously does not know him and I find that to be a real shame.

Hugs,
tina

Rick Latona · 10-10-2003, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by VSBallina
Rick, well said my friend. I have known Steve for some time now and seen Lightspeed grow into the success it is today.
I have met a lot of good people in this industry but Steve stands aside as one of the "great" ones. He is honest, real and has a heart of gold.
We have a business relationship but aside from that I consider him a good friend first.
Of course, people have their own opinion but I really can't believe anyone would ever say anything negative about Steve. Anyone that would obviously does not know him and I find that to be a real shame.

Hugs,
tina

Ah, my little ballerina. *cough* err.. ballina

Libertine · 10-10-2003, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
For example, his "public efforts" to fight child porn while his own sites cater to pedophiles in my opinion.

That's ridiculous.
That the LS girls actually look like fresh, youthful teens and not like 30+ yr old strippers does not mean LS caters to pedophiles. It just means they have quality content. Sounds to me like you're jealous

Oh, and btw:

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The American Psychiatric Association defines Pedophilia:
A pedophile is a person who over at least a 6 month period has recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (age 13 years or younger).

The LS models may look young - I mean, most actually look under 20, even as young as 18! - but saying they look <13 is stretching it

BradShaw · 10-10-2003, 06:04 PM

You have never heard me say 13.
Off to dinner, have fun gfy kiddos.

Dawgy · 10-10-2003, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
I saw numerous models with very small boobs and NO pubic hair.

oh my god! no!?

i worked for steve for a bit. didnt always see eye to eye, but he's an honest guy. i dunno brad very well, doesnt matter i guess. you built up a business from nothing & i respect that.

thing is, if liking 18 year old girls with small boobs & no pubes makes a person a pedophile, then 99% of the people on this board should be locked up, me included - and im gay.

i think criticizing any one person or program for legally catering to one niche is silly, because in the end, most of us like it. if theyre 18, who cares how big their boobs are or how much grass is on the field. theyre legal, nuf said.

if the customers fantsize about them being underage, theres not really anything we can do about it. we are not responsible for our customer's personal fantasies. i think a real pedophile would shun any site that any of us would produce, because a real pedophile is going after kids (as was mentioned above in another post). an 18 year old is simply too old & not appealing to them.

so anyway, im not defending steve or brad, merely stating my opinion on the subject and the criticism of the teen niche in general.

TinaBallina · 10-10-2003, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
Sad thing with Steve is, that it has gotten to the point where he does not bother to defend himself of his company. I mean think about it, there is not much to say in defense except... I am Steve, I am a nice guy, I buy you booze, let you do drugs in my room, and let you watch hot chicks eating each other out....

If he thinks ignoring me will make a difference, he forgets I entertain myself.

I don't think Steve even has to defend himself, he knows what he is doing and doing it well along with legit.
Why should he waste his time defending something that does need defending?

tina

TinaBallina · 10-10-2003, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona

Ah, my little ballerina. *cough* err.. ballina

That was cute Rick, you remembered. BTW, upon our return from Vancouver I am done, no more *cough*

Hugs babe,
me
xo

smsvid · 10-10-2003, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
All,

I've just finished watching Brad Shaw's interview on Mike AI's Pure Cash TV.

Allegation 1. Steve is bad for the industry because he uses girls that "look" underage.

Steve knows how to make money. He creates high-quality sites that people like. He gives lots of content to webmasters for them to promote the services and most importantly, he treats these girls well.

I know certain people in this business who shoot scene after scene of a girl for a couple of weeks, obtain a years worth of updates and call it a day. Steve keeps these girls on payroll for the life of the site unless something goes terribly wrong.

The girls are 18 and that is currently what the law says they have to be. Why is he being punished because the girls are cute and sell memberships?

Allegation 2. Steve is an idiot.

First, refer to allegation 1's response. Webmasters who promote Lightspeed have always made money.

Considering that his program is a "revenue sharing" program I have to assume he does pretty well too.

He's created a strong consumer brand as well as a strong webmaster brand.

I can think of a lot of idiots in this business and Steve isn't one of them.

Age 18 is to young, should be 21.

Dawgy · 10-10-2003, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by smsvid
Age 18 is to young, should be 21.

regardless of what "the age" should be, there will always be people who look younger than they are, and people who want to see that.

smsvid · 10-10-2003, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy

regardless of what "the age" should be, there will always be people who look younger than they are, and people who want to see that.

My point was more too, a 18 old girl who wants to be in porn doesnt understand what the porn industry is about.
And ofcourse she looks young at that age.

The industry takes advantage of this, i dont know who steve is. I dont know lightspeed cash or what the fuck its called. However, if i asked steve or bradshaw or lensman or any other person on this board if they would allow their daughter to do the same thing that Steve´s models does....would they say yes?

Wake up and breath the air, what kind of girls really take theese kind of jobs? The intelligens ones with a good school education?

At age 18 you know as much as a 17 year old one or 16.
Put the age at 21 years old. Atleast they have more between the ears. They may look young, but atleast they are more prepared.

Dawgy · 10-10-2003, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by smsvid
My point was more too, a 18 old girl who wants to be in porn doesnt understand what the porn industry is about.
And ofcourse she looks young at that age.

The industry takes advantage of this, i dont know who steve is. I dont know lightspeed cash or what the fuck its called. However, if i asked steve or bradshaw or lensman or any other person on this board if they would allow their daughter to do the same thing that Steve´s models does....would they say yes?

Wake up and breath the air, what kind of girls really take theese kind of jobs? The intelligens ones with a good school education?

At age 18 you know as much as a 17 year old one or 16.
Put the age at 21 years old. Atleast they have more between the ears. They may look young, but atleast they are more prepared.

anyone who thinks that lowly of models doesnt need to be in this business. i shoot 18 year olds all the time, and most of them are smarter than half the people on this board, you included

jason420 · 10-10-2003, 06:31 PM

I'd like to take the liberty to formally close this thread. Let's recap.

Brad Shaw backed up what he said.

Steve from Light speed is a hypocrite and is bad for the industry.

Rick from CJ will defend the devil if he buys spots on CJ.

I think this covers it.

Libertine · 10-10-2003, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by jason420
I'd like to take the liberty to formally close this thread. Let's recap.

Brad Shaw backed up what he said.

Steve from Light speed is a hypocrite and is bad for the industry.

Rick from CJ will defend the devil if he buys spots on CJ.

I think this covers it.

You forgot:

jason420's tongue now smells like BradShaw's ass

smsvid · 10-10-2003, 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy

anyone who thinks that lowly of models doesnt need to be in this business. i shoot 18 year olds all the time, and most of them are smarter than half the people on this board, you included

Seriously, its a miracle that you even manage to use this board. I guess there is hope for mankind.

WiredGuy · 10-10-2003, 06:34 PM

Very well said Rick. I have known Steve and his staff for well over a year now and his program is the only revshare program I use because I trust him as a business man and as a good friend. All his sites are fully legal, tasteful and great quality that keeps surfers recurring for months and months. More importantly, he treats his girls with the upmost respect.

WG

10-10-2003, 04:58 PM	#1
Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	In defense of Steve Jones a.k.a. Lightspeed All, I've just finished watching Brad Shaw's interview on Mike AI's Pure Cash TV. Allegation 1. Steve is bad for the industry because he uses girls that "look" underage. Steve knows how to make money. He creates high-quality sites that people like. He gives lots of content to webmasters for them to promote the services and most importantly, he treats these girls well. I know certain people in this business who shoot scene after scene of a girl for a couple of weeks, obtain a years worth of updates and call it a day. Steve keeps these girls on payroll for the life of the site unless something goes terribly wrong. The girls are 18 and that is currently what the law says they have to be. Why is he being punished because the girls are cute and sell memberships? Allegation 2. Steve is an idiot. First, refer to allegation 1's response. Webmasters who promote Lightspeed have always made money. Considering that his program is a "revenue sharing" program I have to assume he does pretty well too. He's created a strong consumer brand as well as a strong webmaster brand. I can think of a lot of idiots in this business and Steve isn't one of them. __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

10-10-2003, 05:01 PM	#3
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10-10-2003, 05:02 PM	#4
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	lightspeed has always been some cool mofos.. who gives a fuck what bradshaw thinks? __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

10-10-2003, 05:03 PM	#5
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10-10-2003, 05:06 PM	#7
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	I did not read/hear that interview, but after meeting Steve in Amsterdam last month, I'd have to say he's a very honest man. Very unlikely to abuse, mislead or betray anybody. He's not an idiot either __________________ seks.ai for sale - ping me

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10-10-2003, 05:07 PM	#8
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	But just remember this thread wouldnt exist without Brads big mouth.. so props to brad haha

10-10-2003, 05:07 PM	#9
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	BradShaw is just what German people call a 'Klugscheisser'. Nothing to worry about. But his views on drug abuse during shows is justified. But bashing Steve is just ridiculous.

10-10-2003, 05:07 PM	#10
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	Well said Rick, I know I have worked for Steve for a few years. He is a very good friend and my Employer however I look to him as more of a biz partner then an employer. Steve is the most honest guy I know, we shoot girls that are 18. Go to the mall and watch the 18 year olds there they all look like lightspeed girls cause thats what 18 year olds look like they dont look like a bunch of washed up strippers... He does take good care of the models and treats them very well hell Taylor needed a car and steve bought one for her. Girls need rent money he shoots them extra that month even though we have 500 sets of them in the can allready All I can say is I am proud to have him as a friend and a employer He is good for the industry I wish there were more very honest companies this industry wouldnt be in the mess it is in now!! Tanker __________________ Tanker ICQ 3427575 CCBTools Now featured in the CCBill.com APP STORE Last edited by Tanker; 10-10-2003 at 05:10 PM..

10-10-2003, 05:08 PM	#11
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	Lightspeed is great, has awesome content, converts, pays on time, __________________ icq:159548293

10-10-2003, 05:09 PM	#12
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	__________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

10-10-2003, 05:10 PM	#13
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	quiet hit me up on ICQ sometime Tanker __________________ Tanker ICQ 3427575 CCBTools Now featured in the CCBill.com APP STORE

10-10-2003, 05:15 PM	#14
gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	I like Steve, I like Rick, and I like Brad... Brad has his opinion.. this is a country where everyone is entitled to an opinion... this board is ran just like a political campaign and there is no such thing as "bad publicity".. only publicity... look at Arnold and his allegatoins of being a sexual predator... I believe it all stems back to satire and the ability for anyone to poke at anyone who publically puts themselves out on a pedestal... i admire both sides of this.. Brad for having his "own" opinion and being able to voice it w/o regard.. and Steve for runnig a successful company which obviously does well.. besides.. if everyone got along there would be nothing to read about on GFY.. except.. would you hit it... what kind of car do you drive... and owned threads have a great weekend __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

10-10-2003, 05:17 PM	#15
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Rick, you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I am sure Steve appreciated you posting nice things about him, I know you guys are tight. No doubt Steve has great content, good sites, and a solid program. Steve is a VERY public figure and puts himself up on the pedestal time and time again. For example, his "public efforts" to fight child porn while his own sites cater to pedophiles in my opinion. Therefore, I have no problem with knocking him down and expressing my opinion from time to time. We both know that the publicity he gets from me is well worth the hassle. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-10-2003, 05:18 PM	#16
jason420 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 137	what a bunch of fucking garbage. How much has lightspeed spent with you Rick? You always do this. I think Brad Shaw is prick, but he's right on the money about lightspeed. EVERYONE IN THE INDUSTRY KNOWS THIS. I was at a table once when he walked in and was saying things to people at the table and everyone was saying under their breath.. " shut up man, youre blowing it..." He was saying things about girls that NO ONE should say let alone think. BRAD IS RIGHT ABOUT THIS MOTHERFUCKER.

10-10-2003, 05:26 PM	#19
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	BTW, it is not just me who has these feelings about Steve/Lightspeed. I am just the only one with the balls to post about it on a public board on a regular basis..... There are many people (large companies) that want nothing to do with Steve, but are hospitable to him in public. Everytime I go off on Steve and his business practices, my icq lights up, and my phone rings. And it is not Steve calling, it is people telling me they agree with my opinions. Keep in mind, this is the same guy who ran a busy porn studio out of a residential neighborhood in Glendale, AZ. They just recently got a "real" office BTW, I like Tanker and RocHard, I just hope when/if a crack down comes one day, they are not caught in the middle. They are simply Steves pawns. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-10-2003, 05:30 PM	#21
jason420 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 137	well put Brad. It takes fucking balls to say what you say and you back your shit up. PEOPLE LIKE HIM ARE FUCKED FOR MY INDUSTRY.

10-10-2003, 05:31 PM	#22
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	I need to hire someone.. it would be nice to know someone would say what a great guy i am! or they would face a pay cut!

10-10-2003, 05:31 PM	#23
pamphage Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,569	__________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

10-10-2003, 05:40 PM	#25
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Funny thing is I get VERY much under Steve's skin. We have many mutual friends who have told me stories. Some have even asked me to back off from time to time. If what I was slinging was pure bullshit, I seriously doubt it would bother him so much. the truth hurts sometimes. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-10-2003, 05:41 PM	#26
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	I dont get paid to post happy thoughts I know I wouldn't have gotten a paycut for not posting if anything I will probably get a little heat for posting in this thread I got my own oppinions about things steve knows that there are things we dont see eye to eye on and I voice them... __________________ Tanker ICQ 3427575 CCBTools Now featured in the CCBill.com APP STORE Last edited by Tanker; 10-10-2003 at 05:44 PM..

10-10-2003, 05:42 PM	#27
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	Rick I wasnt talking about you.. I didnt realize you worked for someone..I thought it was your stuff.. I mean the Brad Shaw PR Machine

10-10-2003, 05:44 PM	#28
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Sad thing with Steve is, that it has gotten to the point where he does not bother to defend himself of his company. I mean think about it, there is not much to say in defense except... I am Steve, I am a nice guy, I buy you booze, let you do drugs in my room, and let you watch hot chicks eating each other out.... If he thinks ignoring me will make a difference, he forgets I entertain myself. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-10-2003, 05:45 PM	#29
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	This thread is turning into a homo fest and im pissed i aint part of it..

10-10-2003, 05:51 PM	#33
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	I have no pubic hair.. Does that mean Im underage? My breasts are quite nice for a man though..

10-10-2003, 05:56 PM	#35
NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	Shaven snatch on a porn site? Oh my! __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken

10-10-2003, 05:58 PM	#36
TinaBallina Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 922	Rick, well said my friend. I have known Steve for some time now and seen Lightspeed grow into the success it is today. I have met a lot of good people in this industry but Steve stands aside as one of the "great" ones. He is honest, real and has a heart of gold. We have a business relationship but aside from that I consider him a good friend first. Of course, people have their own opinion but I really can't believe anyone would ever say anything negative about Steve. Anyone that would obviously does not know him and I find that to be a real shame. Hugs, tina __________________ TinaBallina ICQ: 331521809 AIM: ballinaballina

10-10-2003, 06:04 PM	#39
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	You have never heard me say 13. Off to dinner, have fun gfy kiddos. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-10-2003, 06:31 PM	#47
jason420 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 137	I'd like to take the liberty to formally close this thread. Let's recap. Brad Shaw backed up what he said. Steve from Light speed is a hypocrite and is bad for the industry. Rick from CJ will defend the devil if he buys spots on CJ. I think this covers it.

10-10-2003, 06:34 PM	#50
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	Very well said Rick. I have known Steve and his staff for well over a year now and his program is the only revshare program I use because I trust him as a business man and as a good friend. All his sites are fully legal, tasteful and great quality that keeps surfers recurring for months and months. More importantly, he treats his girls with the upmost respect. WG __________________ I play with Google.